Near Theft of my S3
Discussion
Limpet said:
Gap between haves and have-nots increasing, and police resources stretched to the point that getting caught is increasingly unlikely. This isn't rocket science.
I reckon more communities will be driven to hiring private security to protect their stuff as the police become more and more ineffective through budget cuts. I also believe the chronic under-funding we are seeing now, and the resulting damage to police effectiveness is deliberate, and is a route to privatisation by the back door.
Tin foil hat time I see...I reckon more communities will be driven to hiring private security to protect their stuff as the police become more and more ineffective through budget cuts. I also believe the chronic under-funding we are seeing now, and the resulting damage to police effectiveness is deliberate, and is a route to privatisation by the back door.
Edited by Limpet on Thursday 21st September 17:54
kiethton said:
Tin foil hat time I see...
Hardly, it's already happening. I see nothing about the government's position or rhetoric that makes me think it's going to do anything other than let this continue. But then people are voluntarily coughing up for a service they've already paid for through their taxes and they are not receiving. It's creating private sector jobs and stimulating the economy. Why would they do anything?http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/741982/Village-NO...
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/jul/28/pr...
etc...
Edited by Limpet on Thursday 21st September 19:40
Limpet said:
But then people are voluntarily coughing up for a service they've already paid for through their taxes and they are not receiving. It's creating private sector jobs and stimulating the economy.
O. M. G.Private sector security firms! What IS the world coming to...?
Just wait until you hear about education and health...
Rayder9 said:
I had a simular experience when i bought my Mk 2 3.2 TT, I had it about 3 months when we herd some one trying the front door, I went down stairs to check but there was no one there, about 10 minuets later my wife herd a car stop outside our house, when she looked out the window she saw 4 guys in balaclavas making there way up our drive, we turned on the house lights and pressed our the panic button on our house alarm, which sent them scurrying away.
After that experience we had a 5” square telescopic anti ram bollard installed on our drive way, I always keep the key seperate from the car key, and have had no problem since and it feels very secure, I have since replaced the car with a Mk 3 TTS have added a Stoplock Pro Steering Wheel Lock which I use whenever park the car, and a OBD Interface lock from Amazon, and I make sure my front door is locked properly. just make it as hard as posable for the low life car thief's.
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more.After that experience we had a 5” square telescopic anti ram bollard installed on our drive way, I always keep the key seperate from the car key, and have had no problem since and it feels very secure, I have since replaced the car with a Mk 3 TTS have added a Stoplock Pro Steering Wheel Lock which I use whenever park the car, and a OBD Interface lock from Amazon, and I make sure my front door is locked properly. just make it as hard as posable for the low life car thief's.
A proper alarm system, linked to the police/private security with a panic button. I assume not cheap, but I can see it being a genuine deterrent.
Very true they do not do it on their own but then they are unlikely to take just 1 car a night he used to do it with just him and another person on a moped and they would get away with it he never got caught and still has the tool and will no doubt do it again in the future sadly this is what contributes to increased insurance premiums along with the cash for crash schemes
Efbe said:
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more.
A proper alarm system, linked to the police/private security with a panic button. I assume not cheap, but I can see it being a genuine deterrent.
How would the would-be thief know that you've got a panic button, or whether the alarm is linked to anyone or not? A proper alarm system, linked to the police/private security with a panic button. I assume not cheap, but I can see it being a genuine deterrent.
Schermerhorn said:
Throw petrol on would be theives and set the c*nts on fire from top of the window if they come around again.
I had exactly the same thought. In reality, what would the legal position be if you covered a would be intruder in boiling water/oil while they are in the act of breaking in to your property?StescoG66 said:
I had exactly the same thought. In reality, what would the legal position be if you covered a would be intruder in boiling water/oil while they are in the act of breaking in to your property?
You might be on a sticky wicket if the violence you used was considered disproportionate to the threat.StescoG66 said:
Schermerhorn said:
Throw petrol on would be theives and set the c*nts on fire from top of the window if they come around again.
I had exactly the same thought. In reality, what would the legal position be if you covered a would be intruder in boiling water/oil while they are in the act of breaking in to your property?Gareth1974 said:
Efbe said:
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned more.
A proper alarm system, linked to the police/private security with a panic button. I assume not cheap, but I can see it being a genuine deterrent.
How would the would-be thief know that you've got a panic button, or whether the alarm is linked to anyone or not? A proper alarm system, linked to the police/private security with a panic button. I assume not cheap, but I can see it being a genuine deterrent.
IJB1959 said:
kiethton said:
Limpet said:
Gap between haves and have-nots increasing, and police resources stretched to the point that getting caught is increasingly unlikely. This isn't rocket science.
I reckon more communities will be driven to hiring private security to protect their stuff as the police become more and more ineffective through budget cuts. I also believe the chronic under-funding we are seeing now, and the resulting damage to police effectiveness is deliberate, and is a route to privatisation by the back door.
Tin foil hat time I see...I reckon more communities will be driven to hiring private security to protect their stuff as the police become more and more ineffective through budget cuts. I also believe the chronic under-funding we are seeing now, and the resulting damage to police effectiveness is deliberate, and is a route to privatisation by the back door.
Edited by Limpet on Thursday 21st September 17:54
forget pay per click, more like pay per nick.janesmith1950 said:
StescoG66 said:
I had exactly the same thought. In reality, what would the legal position be if you covered a would be intruder in boiling water/oil while they are in the act of breaking in to your property?
You might be on a sticky wicket if the violence you used was considered disproportionate to the threat.She was cooking and doing domestic stuff in the kitchen at the back of the house, a few of them start smashing the doors of the orangery, in full view of her in the adjoining kitchen.
She at all of 4ft nothing is swearing at them, telling them to p
s off just on the other side of the door and they continue smashing through with poles/bars. She grabs the water on the stove....they go away.Police that attended said she'd be well within her rights to have thrown it over them.
After years of reading, I've got around to creating an account based on this thread.
This very afternoon had a near miss with my Leon Cupra ST.
Had to go to London yesterday for work, which meant driving to the station, getting a train, leaving my car overnight and catching the train back the next day (today.) Didn't fancy leaving my car in the station car park overnight, so left it at my parents place, who live a short walk from the station.
My parents were away at the time, taking their nice Mini Convertible up to the Lake District, and leaving their battered old Honda Civic on the driveway, so I left my car on the road outside their house.
I got back this aft, walked to their house, (with my car keys in my pocket where they had been the whole time), noted the Honda gone, and assumed they were back from the Lakes and had gone out separately, hence no cars on the drive.
Just got home to a call from my parents, to say they'd got back (missed them by minutes) to find their house burgled, car gone, motorbike gone, spare keys for Mini gone, and mystified as to why someone would burgle them (lived their 20 years, nice area, no hassle) to steal a 2003 diesel Honda Civic with 200k on the clock. (Bike was in the garage out of sight, nothing fancy at all.)
Can only assume this is my fault - presuming somebody noticed my car outside, put two and two together, realised nobody was home, and broke in looking for my keys - my Mum said they'd turned the house upside down but not taken iPads, TVs, computers - just their car keys and vehicles.
Obviously my key was in my pocket in London, 200+ miles south, and my spare was in my house a few miles away.
So - questions I have are:
Read earlier in this thread that 'people sometimes put trackers on cars to find out where they live' - sounds like bks but now my car is back (relatively) safe on my drive I'm thinking do I need to get underneath and look for such a thing? Where would something like that be and what would it look like?
Feel like crap for (probably) being the cause of all this upset for my parents - also going to Germany for work next week and was planning on doing similar, but might have to look for an alternative - my missus is now panicking about being home alone when I'm away with my 'thief magnet' (her words) parked on our driveway!
I'd been so smug about the under-the-radar qualities of a Cupra estate - moved recently and at the old place, the house two doors up got broken into by someone looking for keys for a boggo 1.0 Audi A1 whilst my car was parked two doors along, so thought there was probably nothing to worry about.
EDITED TO ADD - Needless to say, I'm spending this afternoon in a Rocky-style montage of lifting heavy weights and hitting a punchbag ready to dominate whichever part of the property needs dominating when the toerags with their homebrewed car tracker come looking tonight.
This very afternoon had a near miss with my Leon Cupra ST.
Had to go to London yesterday for work, which meant driving to the station, getting a train, leaving my car overnight and catching the train back the next day (today.) Didn't fancy leaving my car in the station car park overnight, so left it at my parents place, who live a short walk from the station.
My parents were away at the time, taking their nice Mini Convertible up to the Lake District, and leaving their battered old Honda Civic on the driveway, so I left my car on the road outside their house.
I got back this aft, walked to their house, (with my car keys in my pocket where they had been the whole time), noted the Honda gone, and assumed they were back from the Lakes and had gone out separately, hence no cars on the drive.
Just got home to a call from my parents, to say they'd got back (missed them by minutes) to find their house burgled, car gone, motorbike gone, spare keys for Mini gone, and mystified as to why someone would burgle them (lived their 20 years, nice area, no hassle) to steal a 2003 diesel Honda Civic with 200k on the clock. (Bike was in the garage out of sight, nothing fancy at all.)
Can only assume this is my fault - presuming somebody noticed my car outside, put two and two together, realised nobody was home, and broke in looking for my keys - my Mum said they'd turned the house upside down but not taken iPads, TVs, computers - just their car keys and vehicles.
Obviously my key was in my pocket in London, 200+ miles south, and my spare was in my house a few miles away.
So - questions I have are:
Read earlier in this thread that 'people sometimes put trackers on cars to find out where they live' - sounds like b
ks but now my car is back (relatively) safe on my drive I'm thinking do I need to get underneath and look for such a thing? Where would something like that be and what would it look like?Feel like crap for (probably) being the cause of all this upset for my parents - also going to Germany for work next week and was planning on doing similar, but might have to look for an alternative - my missus is now panicking about being home alone when I'm away with my 'thief magnet' (her words) parked on our driveway!
I'd been so smug about the under-the-radar qualities of a Cupra estate - moved recently and at the old place, the house two doors up got broken into by someone looking for keys for a boggo 1.0 Audi A1 whilst my car was parked two doors along, so thought there was probably nothing to worry about.
EDITED TO ADD - Needless to say, I'm spending this afternoon in a Rocky-style montage of lifting heavy weights and hitting a punchbag ready to dominate whichever part of the property needs dominating when the toerags with their homebrewed car tracker come looking tonight.
Edited by SaintEtienne on Friday 22 September 16:25
SaintEtienne said:
Read earlier in this thread that 'people sometimes put trackers on cars to find out where they live' - sounds like b
ks but now my car is back (relatively) safe on my drive I'm thinking do I need to get underneath and look for such a thing? Where would something like that be and what would it look like?https://www.motoringresearch.com/car-news/thieves-...
Richard-390a0 said:
Ah, so it's not complete bks then.But that article is pretty reassuring in my situation - obviously going to shows planning to put trackers on cars is not the same as breaking into houses assuming you'll find the keys and not succeeding.
IJB1959 said:
God, that is bad news for you.
Police have been round (to my parents) since that post and basically they think it was my car too that was the cause of it. Was visible from a busy main road which goes past the end of my parents' street.IJB1959 said:
With reference the tracker you mention, you can by them very cheap online and use a phone app with Google maps to plot it. The downside for the crook is the battery will only last a week or so before needing recharging again. The thing is very small, about 30mm square by 10mm thick so finding one may be tricky.
Might take it for a jetwash in the hope it gets blown off! - But I doubt there is such a thing in this case.IJB1959 said:
They apparently use these on 'high value target cars' which are stolen to order, and attached when spotted parked up away from home knowing that when you are home the keys will be lying around.
Not especially high value, compared to an S3/Golf R, but not without its charms.IJB1959 said:
Best thing to do is have a good burglar alarm and hide your keys at night.
Check! IJB1959 said:
Also, invest in a Ghost so if by chance they get your keys, they cannot start it with the key or via OBD port without a secret code.
Cheers - will investigate. I had my house ransacked 3 days before my wedding, trying to steal the Golf R that was on the drive.
I wish id have left the keys, then maybe they would have just scarpered and not taken all my wifes dead grandmas jewllery, spoilt my wedding and made me hate the house id moved into 3 months previously.
They won with me, I got rid of it as quick as I could... But I still wanted a nice car so I bought a Tesla... the little F***wits haven't got a clue about them.
I wish id have left the keys, then maybe they would have just scarpered and not taken all my wifes dead grandmas jewllery, spoilt my wedding and made me hate the house id moved into 3 months previously.
They won with me, I got rid of it as quick as I could... But I still wanted a nice car so I bought a Tesla... the little F***wits haven't got a clue about them.
IJB1959 said:
God, that is bad news for you. With reference the tracker you mention, you can by them very cheap online and use a phone app with Google maps to plot it. The downside for the crook is the battery will only last a week or so before needing recharging again. The thing is very small, about 30mm square by 10mm thick so finding one may be tricky.
They apparently use these on 'high value target cars' which are stolen to order, and attached when spotted parked up away from home knowing that when you are home the keys will be lying around.
Best thing to do is have a good burglar alarm and hide your keys at night. Also, invest in a Ghost so if by chance they get your keys, they cannot start it with the key or via OBD port without a secret code.
Why's hiding your keys the best ?They apparently use these on 'high value target cars' which are stolen to order, and attached when spotted parked up away from home knowing that when you are home the keys will be lying around.
Best thing to do is have a good burglar alarm and hide your keys at night. Also, invest in a Ghost so if by chance they get your keys, they cannot start it with the key or via OBD port without a secret code.
If they want your car they'll give you or your mrs a hiding until you play ball and hand the keys over .
The amount of people on here prepared to take the thieves on is amazing but 99% of us have zero experience of fighting , maybe , squaddies, police , prison officers and bouncers are the exception.
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