Near Theft of my S3
Discussion
IJB1959 said:
This is all scaremongering BS. Thief's will VERY rarely confront anyone....99% of the time they run when disturbed, as how will they know you don't have a baseball bat/pepper spray at the ready if they persisted or have even called the police.
Read through the thread first hand experience of such incidents, far from BS. I guess they expect a gang of 3 or 4 blokes armed with whatever will win against one guy and his mrs with a baseball bat at best. Even if the owner has the reactions of a cat to ring the police and they send someone instantly they'll take their chances that they'll be out before they arrive. If you had read the thread, I've said before there seems to be two groups of these gangs. One lot will, as you say, want to be in and our without getting noticed and get out if heard or spotted. The other lot are a little more forceful, yeah, they're less common but it's quite clear they're out there, running people over, killing them and kicking doors down to get keys and cars.
Each to their own, some people will be happy to take people on whatever the results, others will be happier having their family safe and out of harms way. I'd guess the vast majority, as 'hard man' as they can type on a keyboard will end up on the losing end of the wrong group of guys.
IJB1959 said:
CaptainMorgan said:
egor110 said:
Why's hiding your keys the best ?
If they want your car they'll give you or your mrs a hiding until you play ball and hand the keys over .
The amount of people on here prepared to take the thieves on is amazing but 99% of us have zero experience of fighting , maybe , squaddies, police , prison officers and bouncers are the exception.
This 100% Not only that, these are people who do this thing regularly, they could have anything from a knife to a gun or bottle of acid. If they want your car they'll give you or your mrs a hiding until you play ball and hand the keys over .
The amount of people on here prepared to take the thieves on is amazing but 99% of us have zero experience of fighting , maybe , squaddies, police , prison officers and bouncers are the exception.
All jobs have a element of risk and for thief it's that very rarely they may come up against somebody who's able to fight a good fight as well as talk it .
IJB1959 said:
CaptainMorgan said:
Read through the thread first hand experience of such incidents, far from BS. I guess they expect a gang of 3 or 4 blokes armed with whatever will win against one guy and his mrs with a baseball bat at best. Even if the owner has the reactions of a cat to ring the police and they send someone instantly they'll take their chances that they'll be out before they arrive.
If you had read the thread, I've said before there seems to be two groups of these gangs. One lot will, as you say, want to be in and our without getting noticed and get out if heard or spotted. The other lot are a little more forceful, yeah, they're less common but it's quite clear they're out there, running people over, killing them and kicking doors down to get keys and cars.
Each to their own, some people will be happy to take people on whatever the results, others will be happier having their family safe and out of harms way. I'd guess the vast majority, as 'hard man' as they can type on a keyboard will end up on the losing end of the wrong group of guys.
Still VERY, VERY rare to be violent like I said (with the exception of car jacking). As mentioned in an above reply, if this did ever happen to me I would have no hesitation in getting my 12 gauge shot gun out so no need to 'fight'. All of this violence stuff bantered about is a complete over reaction anyway.If you had read the thread, I've said before there seems to be two groups of these gangs. One lot will, as you say, want to be in and our without getting noticed and get out if heard or spotted. The other lot are a little more forceful, yeah, they're less common but it's quite clear they're out there, running people over, killing them and kicking doors down to get keys and cars.
Each to their own, some people will be happy to take people on whatever the results, others will be happier having their family safe and out of harms way. I'd guess the vast majority, as 'hard man' as they can type on a keyboard will end up on the losing end of the wrong group of guys.
The thieves would most likely think it's just a airsoft gun and i doubt very much you'd every actually shoot somebody .
Hopefully we'll never find out .
IJB1959 said:
egor110 said:
1. So your going to have time to go to the attic and your gun safe and remove the shot gun ?
2. The thieves would most likely think it's just a airsoft gun and i doubt very much you'd every actually shoot somebody .
3. Hopefully we'll never find out .
1. It's assembled in a cabinet in the bedroom (unless plod have an inspection), then it's disassembled in a cabinet in the loft.2. The thieves would most likely think it's just a airsoft gun and i doubt very much you'd every actually shoot somebody .
3. Hopefully we'll never find out .
2. Don't you believe it. I wouldn't obviously kill them, just take their knee caps out...... no problem.
3. Correct.
Edited by IJB1959 on Saturday 23 September 15:33
DoubleSix said:
Gareth1974 said:
loose cannon said:
DoubleSix said:
I haven't read the whole thread but my view is this is as much about where you live as the vehicle itself.
Live somewhere decent, drive what you like.
Absolute cobblers thieves drive to nice areas to steal nice stuff you have to be pretty naive to think otherwise Live somewhere decent, drive what you like.
Sorry, but whilst it isn't strictly confined to Bradford it certainly isn't a nation wide phenomenon!
(Not talking the sticks either, just an affluent suburb of a large city in the south, we get the odd burglary yes - but this sort of crime is unheard of!)
Edited by DoubleSix on Saturday 23 September 13:30
Only 1 car related crime in my area in the last 6 months, unfortunately my wife's car was the target
Edited by Gareth1974 on Saturday 23 September 16:51
Edited by Gareth1974 on Saturday 23 September 16:51
IJB1959 said:
In defending myself and my family from armed thieving thugs who can no longer walk?.....well worth it.
Fair play, you're a braver man than me, although I dont own and gun and I'd rather be enjoying my life with my wife and kids rather than doing a few years porridge. Like the previous poster said, hopefully you'll never need to use it. CaptainMorgan said:
IJB1959 said:
In defending myself and my family from armed thieving thugs who can no longer walk?.....well worth it.
Fair play, you're a braver man than me, although I dont own and gun and I'd rather be enjoying my life with my wife and kids rather than doing a few years porridge. Like the previous poster said, hopefully you'll never need to use it. If you actually think your life is in danger to the point that shooting someone is an appropriate response, shooting to disable them, giving warning shots, racking a pump-action to make a threatening noise, or any of the other stuff people come out with, seems like a good way to get yourself killed.
Self-defence firearms training would say to initially aim centre of mass if you're going to shoot someone.
But as has been discussed already in this thread, even if I have a gun, even if I have it in the house, if armed men (with guns, knives, viciously sharp slices of mango, whatever) have broken in in the middle of the night, I don't think there's going to be enough of an opportunity to effectively do anything without a very high risk of making things go badly. I might like my cars, I might be completely on board with the idea that shooting robbing b
ds is fine and dandy, but I'm still going to let them take it and get them the fk out my house as fast as possible.Life isn't an action film fantasy world. Trying this stuff seems more likely to get you killed, injured, or banged up for your troubles.
InitialDave said:
I'm not sure "brave" is the term I'm thinking of.
If you actually think your life is in danger to the point that shooting someone is an appropriate response, shooting to disable them, giving warning shots, racking a pump-action to make a threatening noise, or any of the other stuff people come out with, seems like a good way to get yourself killed.
Self-defence firearms training would say to initially aim centre of mass if you're going to shoot someone.
But as has been discussed already in this thread, even if I have a gun, even if I have it in the house, if armed men (with guns, knives, viciously sharp slices of mango, whatever) have broken in in the middle of the night, I don't think there's going to be enough of an opportunity to effectively do anything without a very high risk of making things go badly. I might like my cars, I might be completely on board with the idea that shooting robbing bds is fine and dandy, but I'm still going to let them take it and get them the fk out my house as fast as possible.
Life isn't an action film fantasy world. Trying this stuff seems more likely to get you killed, injured, or banged up for your troubles.
Yeah, brave isn't the best term for what I was trying to say. If you actually think your life is in danger to the point that shooting someone is an appropriate response, shooting to disable them, giving warning shots, racking a pump-action to make a threatening noise, or any of the other stuff people come out with, seems like a good way to get yourself killed.
Self-defence firearms training would say to initially aim centre of mass if you're going to shoot someone.
But as has been discussed already in this thread, even if I have a gun, even if I have it in the house, if armed men (with guns, knives, viciously sharp slices of mango, whatever) have broken in in the middle of the night, I don't think there's going to be enough of an opportunity to effectively do anything without a very high risk of making things go badly. I might like my cars, I might be completely on board with the idea that shooting robbing b
ds is fine and dandy, but I'm still going to let them take it and get them the fk out my house as fast as possible.Life isn't an action film fantasy world. Trying this stuff seems more likely to get you killed, injured, or banged up for your troubles.
ashleyman said:
If you do own a gun, at least you can be sure the Police will attend and fast.
Its actually the opposite. I speak from personal experience. I activated my silent alarm during an armed robbery expecting the police to show up within minutes... 20 minutes later they eventually came. Firearms marker meant they had to RV some distance away and wait for supervision to decide the best course of action.red_slr said:
ashleyman said:
If you do own a gun, at least you can be sure the Police will attend and fast.
Its actually the opposite. I speak from personal experience. I activated my silent alarm during an armed robbery expecting the police to show up within minutes... 20 minutes later they eventually came. Firearms marker meant they had to RV some distance away and wait for supervision to decide the best course of action.I was always told if you want a fast and guaranteed response, get guns! I hope your experience wasn't too traumatising.
fk. That post above is a little close to home.
I have had a call from the police today, that they've found the bds that tried to carjack me in Birmingham in August. Does anyone know what it means if they're released pending investigation? Also was asked if I'd show in court, does this mean I'd have to sit in front of these s and say my name and address? Maybe when my contract is finished I shall fk off back away from here, it's a shame because I really like Solihull.
k. That post above is a little close to home. I have had a call from the police today, that they've found the b
ds that tried to carjack me in Birmingham in August. Does anyone know what it means if they're released pending investigation? Also was asked if I'd show in court, does this mean I'd have to sit in front of these s and say my name and address? Maybe when my contract is finished I shall fk off back away from here, it's a shame because I really like Solihull. J4CKO said:
Does this happen to actual, proper high end stuff ? exotics, Bentleys, 911s etc ?
Or is it just fast VAG turbo stuff ?
I've got a few neighbours near me with 911s and the like, there's a Bentley Bentayga is nearby too. Only seems to be the fast VAG turbo things being so aggressively hunted for around here as I've heard from the police that it's easier to sell the parts afterwards and/or use them in other crimes mainly robberies, and car and non-car related thieving because they are easy to blend in. Or is it just fast VAG turbo stuff ?
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