Dacia Duster. My streets full of them...
Discussion
Mr2Mike said:
CraigyMc said:
I'm surprised there's a car available in 2017 that still has brake drums at the rear, but here it is.
Why do you believe that it's bad to have drum brakes on the back axle of a car? 
It was explained to us on the training that on an everyday run of the mill car, discs on the back were overkill and unnecessarily expensive and complicated, they just aren't required.
They are absolutely everywhere in the French Alps; at some points, I felt like 1 in 4 cars was a Duster! It's funny that a car that's so popular and apparently selling by the bucketload - won't be bought be Brits who are far too image / brand conscious. It's a sad reflection on us I would say.
Would I want to travel cross continent in one; not so sure. I think I'd prefer more space and more luxury. But for 'around and about' in all conditions; what's not to like? For the money, it could be said; get into a decent mileage / condition second hand ML or perhaps a Nissan Xtrail. But for worry free motoring with a warranty; I definetly get the whole Dacia thing.
The new one coming out may be enough to sway Brits. It looks more handsome and is better equipped it would seem. I just hope the price points stay the same.
Would I want to travel cross continent in one; not so sure. I think I'd prefer more space and more luxury. But for 'around and about' in all conditions; what's not to like? For the money, it could be said; get into a decent mileage / condition second hand ML or perhaps a Nissan Xtrail. But for worry free motoring with a warranty; I definetly get the whole Dacia thing.
The new one coming out may be enough to sway Brits. It looks more handsome and is better equipped it would seem. I just hope the price points stay the same.
[quote=LDN]
Would I want to travel cross continent in one; not so sure. I think I'd prefer more space and more luxury.
/quote]
We have got soft since Peking Paris Rally in 1907 ..... And whilst I'd cavil at driving a 1907 car more than a few miles I can't think what would prevent anybody from doing a long trip in a Dacia. The Duster I drove felt uncannily like many French cars of the 60s and 70s- long geared , soft seats and wonderfully absorbent ride compared to oxymorons like Tiguan Sports (I suspect the only sport a Tiguan would be any good for is dogging ) I don't speak from experience of dogging , but I did once own a Tiguan ...
Would I want to travel cross continent in one; not so sure. I think I'd prefer more space and more luxury.
/quote]
We have got soft since Peking Paris Rally in 1907 ..... And whilst I'd cavil at driving a 1907 car more than a few miles I can't think what would prevent anybody from doing a long trip in a Dacia. The Duster I drove felt uncannily like many French cars of the 60s and 70s- long geared , soft seats and wonderfully absorbent ride compared to oxymorons like Tiguan Sports (I suspect the only sport a Tiguan would be any good for is dogging ) I don't speak from experience of dogging , but I did once own a Tiguan ...
HTP99 said:
It was explained to us on the training that on an everyday run of the mill car, discs on the back were overkill and unnecessarily expensive and complicated, they just aren't required.
Whilst I agree that discs aren't really required for the back of hum-drum cars, I'd have thought discs would actually be cheaper than drums these days just through economies of scale. I guess drums are still manufactured for trailers and things. coppice]DN said:
Would I want to travel cross continent in one; not so sure. I think I'd prefer more space and more luxury.
/quote]
We have got soft since Peking Paris Rally in 1907 ..... And whilst I'd cavil at driving a 1907 car more than a few miles I can't think what would prevent anybody from doing a long trip in a Dacia. The Duster I drove felt uncannily like many French cars of the 60s and 70s- long geared , soft seats and wonderfully absorbent ride compared to oxymorons like Tiguan Sports (I suspect the only sport a Tiguan would be any good for is dogging ) I don't speak from experience of dogging , but I did once own a Tiguan ...
/quote]
We have got soft since Peking Paris Rally in 1907 ..... And whilst I'd cavil at driving a 1907 car more than a few miles I can't think what would prevent anybody from doing a long trip in a Dacia. The Duster I drove felt uncannily like many French cars of the 60s and 70s- long geared , soft seats and wonderfully absorbent ride compared to oxymorons like Tiguan Sports (I suspect the only sport a Tiguan would be any good for is dogging ) I don't speak from experience of dogging , but I did once own a Tiguan ...
Yes, there's no reason a Dacia wouldn't do a long trip. Just that, from experience; doing the trip to France a few times each year; I've found the more space the better. And things like air suspension, amongst other creature comforts; do make the trip less of a chore. I know that makes me soft
Mr2Mike said:
CraigyMc said:
I'm surprised there's a car available in 2017 that still has brake drums at the rear, but here it is.
Why do you believe that it's bad to have drum brakes on the back axle of a car? I have no problem with integrated drums in discs at the back for parking, but drums alone aren't good enough these days.
Split circuit brakes that actually work depend on having proper braking forces available at diagonally opposite corners, never mind EBD.
CraigyMc said:
Mr2Mike said:
CraigyMc said:
I'm surprised there's a car available in 2017 that still has brake drums at the rear, but here it is.
Why do you believe that it's bad to have drum brakes on the back axle of a car? I have no problem with integrated drums in discs at the back for parking, but drums alone aren't good enough these days.
Split circuit brakes that actually work depend on having proper braking forces available at diagonally opposite corners, never mind EBD.
Toaster Pilot said:
What a load of bulls
t. LOADS of cars still have drum brakes at the rear - how many accidents are attributed to having poor rear brakes?Edited by budgie smuggler on Thursday 21st September 12:08
HTP99 said:
CraigyMc said:
Mr2Mike said:
CraigyMc said:
I'm surprised there's a car available in 2017 that still has brake drums at the rear, but here it is.
Why do you believe that it's bad to have drum brakes on the back axle of a car? I have no problem with integrated drums in discs at the back for parking, but drums alone aren't good enough these days.
Split circuit brakes that actually work depend on having proper braking forces available at diagonally opposite corners, never mind EBD.
Toaster Pilot said:
What a load of bulls
t. LOADS of cars still have drum brakes at the rear - how many accidents are attributed to having poor rear brakes?
100% Grade A horse manure. ABS and EBD can still operate with drum brakes, and they are perfectly adequate on the rear axle of smaller, lower powered FWD cars. They have advantages in terms of longevity and handbrake efficiency as well (compared to handbrake calipers) which is why many new cars still have them fitted.budgie smuggler said:
I have an 09 plate Focus with drums on the back, never had any issue stopping quickly and that is a fairly heavy car. They've required absolutely no maintenance or parts in 100K miles either. Only issue I've noticed is they look a bit crap.
Heavy? A Focus is a veritable lightweight compared to my L200, which is pushing 2 tonnes yet still has rear drums and stops on a sixpence....Edited by budgie smuggler on Thursday 21st September 12:08
LDN said:
coppice]DN said:
Would I want to travel cross continent in one; not so sure. I think I'd prefer more space and more luxury.
/quote]
We have got soft since Peking Paris Rally in 1907 ..... And whilst I'd cavil at driving a 1907 car more than a few miles I can't think what would prevent anybody from doing a long trip in a Dacia. The Duster I drove felt uncannily like many French cars of the 60s and 70s- long geared , soft seats and wonderfully absorbent ride compared to oxymorons like Tiguan Sports (I suspect the only sport a Tiguan would be any good for is dogging ) I don't speak from experience of dogging , but I did once own a Tiguan ...
/quote]
We have got soft since Peking Paris Rally in 1907 ..... And whilst I'd cavil at driving a 1907 car more than a few miles I can't think what would prevent anybody from doing a long trip in a Dacia. The Duster I drove felt uncannily like many French cars of the 60s and 70s- long geared , soft seats and wonderfully absorbent ride compared to oxymorons like Tiguan Sports (I suspect the only sport a Tiguan would be any good for is dogging ) I don't speak from experience of dogging , but I did once own a Tiguan ...
Yes, there's no reason a Dacia wouldn't do a long trip. Just that, from experience; doing the trip to France a few times each year; I've found the more space the better. And things like air suspension, amongst other creature comforts; do make the trip less of a chore. I know that makes me soft
It's comfy, quiet enough and has a reasonable stereo.
I've done it in my Seicento and the duster is much better
Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff