Adblue panic time

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AJB

856 posts

215 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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bungz said:
Vaud said:
Why? It's space efficient and neat. At least unplugging a bag and clipping in a new one (if they have the right valves/connectors) is easier than using a funnel and risking spillage?
Having to go under the car and mess about with clips every 4 or 5K?

No chance.
Looks like it's about 80,000 miles for eolys refill from a quick search.
Edit: beaten to it! And with a very different distance...

Superhoop

4,676 posts

193 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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AJB said:
Looks like it's about 80,000 miles for eolys refill from a quick search.
Edit: beaten to it! And with a very different distance...
It might be 80k on these... it used to be 37.5k on some brands, so was just basing it on that.. definitely not 4 or 5 k though...

catso

14,782 posts

267 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Superhoop said:
4 or 5k ?? The Eloys fluid only requires a top up every 37.5k miles... And it's a dealer only repair procedure, as Eloys fluid is horrible stuff...
Do all diesels have this? as I've never heard of it.

I don't drive a diesel but the Wife has a 2016 Qashqai which AFAIK doesn't use Adblue? at least nobody said anything when we bought it and I've not had to top it up yet.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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OpulentBob said:
Rawwr said:
Welshbeef said:
Reminds me of a situation I spent HOURS trying to find the oil filter location of my old Fiat Coupe 20 VT.
In your case the filter probably didn't exist. Nor the car.
hehe
Have another.

hehe


Superhoop

4,676 posts

193 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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catso said:
Superhoop said:
4 or 5k ?? The Eloys fluid only requires a top up every 37.5k miles... And it's a dealer only repair procedure, as Eloys fluid is horrible stuff...
Do all diesels have this? as I've never heard of it.

I don't drive a diesel but the Wife has a 2016 Qashqai which AFAIK doesn't use Adblue? at least nobody said anything when we bought it and I've not had to top it up yet.
Nope, Eloys is a PSA thing to reduce the combustion temps required during a DPF regeneration so only cars using a PSA derived engine will use it.. (That's quite a few by the way). Don't confuse Eloys with AdBlue though as one deals with DPF regeneration, the other is an exhaust gas after treatment to reduce Nox

sandman77

2,398 posts

138 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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DSGbangs said:
OpulentBob said:
Rawwr said:
Welshbeef said:
Reminds me of a situation I spent HOURS trying to find the oil filter location of my old Fiat Coupe 20 VT.
In your case the filter probably didn't exist. Nor the car.
hehe
Have another.

hehe
hehe

The internet never forgets.

Jonny_

4,125 posts

207 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Presumably there either is or soon will be a thriving industry in reprogramming ECUs in order to disable these AdBlue and Eolys systems, or at least to override the rather Draconian "prevent restart" features.

Sheepshanks

32,704 posts

119 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Jonny_ said:
Presumably there either is or soon will be a thriving industry in reprogramming ECUs in order to disable these AdBlue and Eolys systems, or at least to override the rather Draconian "prevent restart" features.
There certainly is for trucks.

AJB

856 posts

215 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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catso said:
Superhoop said:
4 or 5k ?? The Eloys fluid only requires a top up every 37.5k miles... And it's a dealer only repair procedure, as Eloys fluid is horrible stuff...
Do all diesels have this? as I've never heard of it.

I don't drive a diesel but the Wife has a 2016 Qashqai which AFAIK doesn't use Adblue? at least nobody said anything when we bought it and I've not had to top it up yet.
Early diesels had neither (eg my old 2002 Octavia).

Once DPFs were introduced, some have eolys fluid to help with regenerations. I think that might be earlier designs, or where a DPF was added later in the model's life (so the filter couldn't be placed as close to the engine as is ideal), but I could be wrong about that.

Newer diesels almost all have adblue to help them meet EU6 NOx emissions limits. This is nothing to do with the DPF. This needs topping up more often than eolys, but is cheaper and easier to do than eolys. I'd guess yours has adblue, but that is just a guess.

AJB

856 posts

215 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Superhoop said:
Nope, Eloys is a PSA thing to reduce the combustion temps required during a DPF regeneration so only cars using a PSA derived engine will use it.. (That's quite a few by the way). Don't confuse Eloys with AdBlue though as one deals with DPF regeneration, the other is an exhaust gas after treatment to reduce Nox
I hadn't realised it was mainly PSA. I was fairly sure the mk1 Skoda Superb used it, so assumed lots of VW stuff of that era did. Turns out it's only the mk1 Superb:

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=12...

edit: Note to self, read threads before quoting from them as fact. That thread corrects itself later and says there are various other VAG group cars of that era too, but then there's confusion about whether that's adblue!

Edited by AJB on Monday 18th September 11:58


Edited by AJB on Monday 18th September 12:00

bobski1

1,768 posts

104 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Still waiting for OP's answer, wonder if he will respond if it turns out he doesn't have it...

RizzoTheRat

25,119 posts

192 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Superhoop said:
AJB said:
Looks like it's about 80,000 miles for eolys refill from a quick search.
Edit: beaten to it! And with a very different distance...
It might be 80k on these... it used to be 37.5k on some brands, so was just basing it on that.. definitely not 4 or 5 k though...
How often do you have to top up with Adblue?

Being a VAG mine just emits rose scented fresh air from the exhaust when it's being tested so I don't have nay of these issues hehe

bungz

1,960 posts

120 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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RizzoTheRat said:
How often do you have to top up with Adblue?

Being a VAG mine just emits rose scented fresh air from the exhaust when it's being tested so I don't have nay of these issues hehe
Depends on the car and engine.

New Vauxhalls can have it as little as every 2.5K




anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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bobski1 said:
Still waiting for OP's answer, wonder if he will respond if it turns out he doesn't have it...
I wish he would answer. I'm on tenterhooks here laugh

Zippee

13,453 posts

234 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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bobski1 said:
Still waiting for OP's answer, wonder if he will respond if it turns out he doesn't have it...
If that is the case why would the OP think he needs it in the first place? My Jeep GC has it (albeit a filler next to the fuel filler) and I have a read out on the dash telling me how much I have left and when it gets low how many miles I have to go. Presumably the OP must have had some sort of warning read out to know this.

CornedBeef

512 posts

188 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Eurghhh. I've just read through 5 pages looking forward to the answer to the mystery and its still not happened! In for the answer.

ChocolateFrog

25,097 posts

173 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Zippee said:
bobski1 said:
Still waiting for OP's answer, wonder if he will respond if it turns out he doesn't have it...
If that is the case why would the OP think he needs it in the first place? My Jeep GC has it (albeit a filler next to the fuel filler) and I have a read out on the dash telling me how much I have left and when it gets low how many miles I have to go. Presumably the OP must have had some sort of warning read out to know this.
Assuming that if the car is requesting it then it must be fitted. It's possible that the filler has been moved for some reason.

I'd be making sure it's not somewhere obvious before taking it to a dealer.

jonvw84

228 posts

81 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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All this faffing with AdBlue is why I've just ordered my new car as a petrol (that and that its only 10mpg down on the diesel version)

kowalski655

Original Poster:

14,631 posts

143 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Wow, I can't believe so many posted to get an update!
Anyway,I'm posting this from the dealer, and there is an outcome....but I'm not going to tell you what it is mwahahaha















..only kidding. It was Adblue,the dash said it specifically,and despite what the manual,the internet and the 1st technician say, the hole is NOT in fact behind the offside 3rd row!
Another chap was called and he knew it was in FRONT of said seat,in the foot well. When the seat is up to look at the expected position,it's impossible to see. So we'll done to the Citroen manual writers.


Zippee

13,453 posts

234 months

Monday 18th September 2017
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Under a seat? Blimey - what are the French on? You'd have thought something like that would be by the filler cap at best and at worst in the boot.