RE: Nissan GT-R MY17 v. Porsche 911 Carrera GTS

RE: Nissan GT-R MY17 v. Porsche 911 Carrera GTS

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culpz

4,881 posts

111 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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cramorra said:
nickfrog said:
guards red said:
Audemars said:
Both ugly cars. GTR is classless and the Porsche is FUGLY as usual.

Feel sorry for the folk that aspire to own these cars.
What do you aspire to?
Nothing. He has a fleet of supercars.
No cars on his profile- a sensible beginners car perhaps a saxo???
Let's not go there chaps. He was called out some time ago to show his alleged McLaren purchase and failed the custard test miserably.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Yipper said:
For £100k, the GTS is too slow. It gets beaten by a £30k Golf R with a £500 remap.
That's a bit like saying a 5 Series Touring is too small for £50k because it can be beaten by a Transit for half the price.

Or that an hour of sex is overrated because you can make a mess of your pants all by yourself in 15 seconds flat. Which I suspect has some resonance with you.

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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nickfrog said:
Nothing. He has a fleet of supercars.
Really, must be nice! Not sure what to believe really?



nickfrog

20,872 posts

216 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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janesmith1950 said:
Or that an hour of sex is overrated because you can make a mess of your pants all by yourself in 15 seconds flat. Which I suspect has some resonance with you.
I can do it twice in 15 seconds.

nicfaz

430 posts

229 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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GT-R for me. If you're going to spend that kind of money on a drivers car instead of a Range Rover, it should make you giggle, sweat and swear out loud. IDK why people are saying it looks old - it is 9 years old so it is familiar, but it looks like nothing else. I saw one on the motorway the other week and it looked like a fighter jet in amongst the Cessna's - an impression reinforced when a gap opened up, there was a whoosh and he did a creditable impression of the millennium falcon.

The final straw would be 4wd vs 2wd. If it's your daily drive, you want good power (400hp+) then 4wd is just much better. My car has good traction for a big car, but on damp days it might as well just have half the power/torque because I don't have traction at lower speeds. If that's the case, the only thing I'm getting for 18mpg is the epic noise.

Resolutionary

1,253 posts

170 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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While I can appreciate the GTR, it's never been a looker in any of the iterations available - and controversial as it may be I actually prefer those with widebody kits applied to give the slab sides some depth (not that I'd have one of those either). Seeing an R35 at shows nowadays is almost yawnable, even with 750hp+ on offer.

I find it quite surprising that the same basic shape has existed for a decade now; to the layman it's virtually indistinguishable now to the original 2007 one, save for the sort of tweaks a PHer would spot.

Time for a reboot methinks. The Porsche is arguably much the same; an 'iconic' shape reskinned and given some boost. Of the two I'd have the Porsche as it's far less ugly, and has a more interesting layout for the price point.

Tuvra

7,920 posts

224 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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nicfaz said:
GT-R for me. If you're going to spend that kind of money on a drivers car instead of a Range Rover, it should make you giggle, sweat and swear out loud. IDK why people are saying it looks old - it is 9 years old so it is familiar, but it looks like nothing else. I saw one on the motorway the other week and it looked like a fighter jet in amongst the Cessna's - an impression reinforced when a gap opened up, there was a whoosh and he did a creditable impression of the millennium falcon.

The final straw would be 4wd vs 2wd. If it's your daily drive, you want good power (400hp+) then 4wd is just much better. My car has good traction for a big car, but on damp days it might as well just have half the power/torque because I don't have traction at lower speeds. If that's the case, the only thing I'm getting for 18mpg is the epic noise.
A Katsura orange one went past me in Manchester a few months back and it made me fall in love. To my eyes it looked fabulous, girl I was with on the other hand thought it looked st hehe

spikyone

1,413 posts

99 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Durzel said:
£86,300 on a GTR just seems wrong. It is very accomplished I'm sure, and no doubt very fast, but its allure for me was when it was "a giant killer for M5 money". Up in the rarified atmosphere of £85k+ it just seems rather inelegant.

I say that as someone who owned a R33 GTR & R34 GTR, so very much a fan of blisteringly quick Japanese motors.

Then again I wouldn't spend £100k on that particular Porsche either.
A giant killer for M5 money, you say?

Auto Express said:
The new BMW M5 will cost £89,640 when it hits UK showrooms next February, although there will be plenty of options available to bump that price up further.
From this article

The GTR is less than M5 money. It's not that the GTR has got expensive, it's that everything has got more expensive. I bet you'd end up spending much more on options for the M5 than the GTR too...

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

82 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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spikyone said:
From this article

The GTR is less than M5 money. It's not that the GTR has got expensive, it's that everything has got more expensive. I bet you'd end up spending much more on options for the M5 than the GTR too...
I'd love to meet the guy that doesn't spend at least £7K when speccing up his new M5, it can't be done.

nick-8e3se

3 posts

78 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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redface

When comparing 2 items the question is " Which one is better? " not "best". Please get the the grammar correct as it spoils the article.

bosshog

1,574 posts

275 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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nick-8e3se said:
redface

When comparing 2 items the question is " Which one is better? " not "best". Please get the the grammar correct as it spoils the article.
Totally ruined it. rolleyeslaugh

paul_k

88 posts

219 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Well I could write a book on my 8.5 years of GTR ownership...

Just one word will do: Epic!

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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paul_k said:
Well I could write a book on my 8.5 years of GTR ownership...

Just one word will do: Epic!
But it has horrible interior...... lol

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

82 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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vz-r_dave said:
But it has horrible interior...... lol
I quite like it, reminds me of the DC5 Integra

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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aaron_2000 said:
vz-r_dave said:
But it has horrible interior...... lol
I quite like it, reminds me of the DC5 Integra
smile I was being sarcastic, find it hilarious how some write cars off because of interior..... more so when they don't own anythnig in the same segment.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

82 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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vz-r_dave said:
smile I was being sarcastic, find it hilarious how some write cars off because of interior..... more so when they don't own anythnig in the same segment.
Ah, I do find it funny when people write cars like the GTR off simply because of their Japanese interiors, which are probably better built in some respects than their rivals. The GTR isn't and never has been about high end interiors and driver comfort.

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

217 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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aaron_2000 said:
vz-r_dave said:
smile I was being sarcastic, find it hilarious how some write cars off because of interior..... more so when they don't own anythnig in the same segment.
Ah, I do find it funny when people write cars like the GTR off simply because of their Japanese interiors, which are probably better built in some respects than their rivals. The GTR isn't and never has been about high end interiors and driver comfort.
Agreed, yet people continue to slate a cars interior even when they have no intention of purchasing anything in the segment.... the true PH way. I am quite certain the majority would feel very different if they have 85k to spend on a car and they took a nice new GTR for a test drive. Very unlikely to pick on the interior trim I am sure smile

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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paul_k said:
Well I could write a book on my 8.5 years of GTR ownership...

Just one word will do: Epic!
I'd love to see a blog on the ownership costs. Still a very striking car IMHO.

RB5_245

72 posts

212 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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The 911 interior is dull, and not really much been updated since the 997. The gtr might not have the same quality but the '17 is nicer looking place to be than the 911.

By the time I'd added just the most basic extras (seats, steering wheel, fuel tank, door handles), a bog standard C2 had gone way over the cost of the gtr, so I went for the gtr. A nicely spec'd gts might have swung it, but then you're well over 100k and into GT3 territory. Way out of my price range.

The whole dash might creak on the gtr when you set the gearbox, traction and suspension to 'race', but I'll happily take that over just the sheer cost of getting those switches added to a 911.

big_rob_sydney

3,394 posts

193 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Staggered that the GT-R is still so heavy despite having such a cheap interior?
The flip side to that equation would be "why does a car costing so much more, and weighing so much less, accelerate so much more slowly."

If I look at "fit for purpose", the question I would ask before that would be, what do I want from a car?

If the answer is, performance metrics, then the GTR wins. If the answer is, something reasonably quick that can be used more of the time, then the 911 wins.

In saying that, I'm a huge GTR fan, and so I'd take it regardless, because I'm willing to compromise. Hell, the extra £20k+ can be put to a second car, etc.