RE: Nissan GT-R MY17 v. Porsche 911 Carrera GTS

RE: Nissan GT-R MY17 v. Porsche 911 Carrera GTS

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cayman-black

12,625 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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I know the Porsche is good and i knew it would win but its looks so fking boring unless you behind the wheel perhaps.

Scottie - NW

1,284 posts

232 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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B210bandit said:
Kawasicki said:
. It also tramlines all over the shop which is very involving. It just goes to show you that focused development at the Nurburgring really brings benefits.
Tramlining is a benefit?
When driving a tram yes.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

155 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Staggered that the GT-R is still so heavy despite having such a cheap interior?

vz-r_dave

3,469 posts

217 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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hondansx said:
B210bandit said:
At 25% more for the Porsche, as optioned, isn't it a bit of an apples and pears comparison?
Why don't we look into all ownership costs, including depreciation before we write off the comparison?
Its a head to head of two cars in a simaler price bracket, not one on ownership costs and depreciation. Delving into the details they are around 20-25k apart, farier comparison would have been with a base 911.



davidcharles

400 posts

193 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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hondansx said:
But then you'd just make the GTR more....well... GTR.

I am not a snob; I have multiple Japanese cars, but the GTR just screams chav. And sadly, 'modifications' tend to be remap, loud exhaust and a distasteful vinyl wrap (i.e. even more chavvy).

The Porsche costs more, and it's worth it. They're popular because they know how to make a decent car. I don't know how you could get out of the 911 and into the GTR and feel like you've made an upgrade.
well..i am not a huge fan of 911 interiors so getting into a GTR would be fine for me ... and it is an upgrade to me as 911's don't do it for me looks wise and the GTR is quite a bit faster.

many may disagree but i would take the GTR over the 911 everytime

Audemars

507 posts

97 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Both ugly cars. GTR is classless and the Porsche is FUGLY as usual.

Feel sorry for the folk that aspire to own these cars.

WCZ

10,492 posts

193 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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driven both (older nissan though) , would go for the GTS personally but either are good.

to call the GT-R a 'demanding' car to drive wasn't really reflective of my personal experience though

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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The £20K difference would be enough to sway me into the GT-R. I don't really care that there's the odd issue of fit and finish as it remains the absolute pinnacle of what we can do with active suspension in a production road car. The 911 is probably brilliant, competent and the safe choice.

ZX10R NIN

27,492 posts

124 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Helicopter123 said:
Staggered that the GT-R is still so heavy despite having such a cheap interior?
It's not a cheap interior it's just not as nice as the 911 (which had a few options ticked to make it an even nicer place to be) the weight comes from the hardware 4wd 4ws dual clutch gearbox etc which all adds up.

It's still a nice place to be & a good steer just a different steer to the GTS but if the interior did wrankle me I'd have 11k in change to do something about it with. smile

It's a shame they didn't compare it with the similarly Carrera 4/Carrera S (which is within 1k of the GT-R) or they'd got hold of a Track Edition GT-R so the test would have been a better comparison but I'm guessing they're at the mercy of the press fleets.

I like the GT-R but it can be cantankerous when cold but I like that about it (the fact it's not easy to get the best from it) on the other hand I like the 911's jump in and go ability but I think the GT-R would get the nod but for that money if it was opened up for cars at around 88k I'd get a Granturismo. spin



MaxA

238 posts

143 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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ZX10R NIN said:
I like the GT-R but it can be cantankerous when cold but I like that about it (the fact it's not easy to get the best from it) on the other hand I like the 911's jump in and go ability but I think the GT-R would get the nod but for that money if it was opened up for cars at around 88k I'd get a Granturismo. spin
I'm not sure that I see the 911 as a jump-in-and-go car: my 997 needs a minute or so of idling at 1200rpm to get to temperature, and it clonks the gearbox if the oil's cold ... but I would be put off a GTR if it actually needed 15 minutes to warm up. That just wouldn't work where I live.

Kawasicki

13,041 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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B210bandit said:
Kawasicki said:
. It also tramlines all over the shop which is very involving. It just goes to show you that focused development at the Nurburgring really brings benefits.
Tramlining is a benefit?
Yep, it is very engaging to drive quickly on a bumpy country lane.

B210bandit

513 posts

96 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Where engaging means white knuckles from fighting the wheel?

culpz

4,881 posts

111 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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The size of a car is quite important to me. So, as much as i've always admired the GTR, there's no getting round the fact that it is a big machine. For that alone, i'd probably go for the Porsche. After recently driving my dad's 911 round a track, i feel like it's a really nice size of car.

Obviously, this new one is probably bit bigger but it still just looks right to me, dimensions wise. There's no denying the GTR's pure pace and it's ability to extract performance from the road like nothing else but i'm just losing interest now with these mild updates. Bring on the new model!

Durzel

12,232 posts

167 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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£86,300 on a GTR just seems wrong. It is very accomplished I'm sure, and no doubt very fast, but its allure for me was when it was "a giant killer for M5 money". Up in the rarified atmosphere of £85k+ it just seems rather inelegant.

I say that as someone who owned a R33 GTR & R34 GTR, so very much a fan of blisteringly quick Japanese motors.

Then again I wouldn't spend £100k on that particular Porsche either.

guards red

666 posts

199 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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Audemars said:
Both ugly cars. GTR is classless and the Porsche is FUGLY as usual.

Feel sorry for the folk that aspire to own these cars.
What do you aspire to?

Kawasicki

13,041 posts

234 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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hondansx said:
Kawasicki said:
The Nissan GT-R is a hoot to drive on back roads, it's fun in the bends - quick, playful and darty. It also tramlines all over the shop which is very involving. It just goes to show you that focused development at the Nurburgring really brings benefits.
Not sure if that is sarcasm...
Many people moan that modern cars are bland. The GT-R is not bland, it is focused/single minded. I burst out laughing a few times driving one.

Well done Nissan.

diehardbenzfan

2,624 posts

156 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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HeMightBeBanned said:
Pistonheads. Because soft-touch interiors matter.
It's all a load of waffle to me, not sure why journalists decide to discredit a car because of 'hard feeling plastics', especially matt Watson on car buyer, even though I'd rather have the Porsche over the GT-R, it most certainly wouldn't be because of 'interior quality'.

I'm in no position to judge as I haven't driven either and probably never will but most journalists go on about the GT-R's interior like it's the same the Peugeot 307 my dad hired years ago on holiday! Give it up already

ZX10R NIN

27,492 posts

124 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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culpz said:
The size of a car is quite important to me. So, as much as i've always admired the GTR, there's no getting round the fact that it is a big machine. For that alone, i'd probably go for the Porsche. After recently driving my dad's 911 round a track, i feel like it's a really nice size of car.

Obviously, this new one is probably bit bigger but it still just looks right to me, dimensions wise. There's no denying the GTR's pure pace and it's ability to extract performance from the road like nothing else but i'm just losing interest now with these mild updates. Bring on the new model!
The Porsche is only 14.5cm shorter & 1.5cm narrower than the GTR.




Edited by ZX10R NIN on Wednesday 20th September 18:16

nickfrog

20,871 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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guards red said:
Audemars said:
Both ugly cars. GTR is classless and the Porsche is FUGLY as usual.

Feel sorry for the folk that aspire to own these cars.
What do you aspire to?
Nothing. He has a fleet of supercars.

Pauly-b

131 posts

188 months

Wednesday 20th September 2017
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nickfrog said:
guards red said:
Audemars said:
Both ugly cars. GTR is classless and the Porsche is FUGLY as usual.

Feel sorry for the folk that aspire to own these cars.
What do you aspire to?
Nothing. He has a fleet of supercars.
Really? Blimey his Mums basement must be packed now.. What’s he done with his Power Ranger stuff?