EV Bus does 1,100 miles on a single charge
Discussion
Bristol spark said:
Why not just put overhead lines in cities, like San Francisco?
Because they look s
t. 
Also something like this seems to do away with the need to put unsightly wires and poles all over the place. If this can achieve a genuine 250 miles per charge in real world conditions, that would be more than enough for 99% of bus routes I'd imagine.
Guvernator said:
Bristol spark said:
Why not just put overhead lines in cities, like San Francisco?
Because they look st. Also something like this seems to do away with the need to put unsightly wires and poles all over the place. If this can achieve a genuine 250 miles per charge in real world conditions, that would be more than enough for 99% of bus routes I'd imagine.
t loads of overhead lines (telephone/power) anyway. Bristol had the poo bus which was powered by methane gas and was the first 'bio-bus'. The gas was from food and human waste (hence the name). The trial was a success but the government (office for low emission vehicles) pulled funding when they applied for a fleet of 110 of the buses... which to me seems daft.
CrutyRammers said:
They're just putting a load of new tram routes in central Manchester, which did make me smile. Round and round we go...
Apparently the last of the old tram rails were only removed from Sheffield's streets about a year before the new tram rails started to be installed...I've always thought that buses and lorries should be easier to electrify than cars just down to the sheer size and weight of a normal one, take the engine out and replace with a tonne of batteries wouldn't make much difference (might even improve the weight balance if you spread the batteries along the length of the vehicle)
AlexHat said:
I've always thought that buses and lorries should be easier to electrify than cars just down to the sheer size and weight of a normal one, take the engine out and replace with a tonne of batteries wouldn't make much difference (might even improve the weight balance if you spread the batteries along the length of the vehicle)
I guess it is harder with HGVs due to their much longer range requirements but I can envisage a time when the cross currently diesel lorries need to stop outside of cities and an electric lorry hook up to the trailer and continue to the final destination in town?But if this is all about direct air and noise pollution in densely populated areas then lorries might be towards the end of the list for as quick a transition as possible?
alex290568 said:
So we've gone full circle.
Come back trolley bus and tram ??
Been saying this for years - a new style automatic engage/disengage system to an overhead line, then you dont need lines on every road, just arterial routes, busses will range from full ev wih couple miles worth of backup battery for mainly in town use, to hybrid or longer range ev that can use the grid in town and can go long range elsewhere. As the system is automatic in engaging vehicles simply click off to pass each other, go down a side road or diversion etc.Come back trolley bus and tram ??
Then you tell all the delivery lorries and vans they have free use of the grid to move and charge simultaneously - as these vehicles are going electric/hybrid as we speak it should help both processes.
But no, lets have everyone cart several tons of battery around
CrutyRammers said:
alex290568 said:
So we've gone full circle.
Come back trolley bus and tram ??
They're just putting a load of new tram routes in central Manchester, which did make me smile. Round and round we go...Come back trolley bus and tram ??
And a lot of the routes are using old railway lines
Ares said:
CrutyRammers said:
alex290568 said:
So we've gone full circle.
Come back trolley bus and tram ??
They're just putting a load of new tram routes in central Manchester, which did make me smile. Round and round we go...Come back trolley bus and tram ??
And a lot of the routes are using old railway lines
Buses are a brilliant use for Electric power, they are disgustingly dirty things that stop and start more often than a dog on a walk marking its territory, they have loads of wasted space and need huge amounts of torque, plus they are usually in urban environments doing relatively short journeys and I suspect emit many times more crap than a whole fleet of cars. If they could do even half that 110 miles they would cover a days use easily, whack some chargers in the bus depots and in strategic locations, brilliant, still would avoid like the plague though !
We've got half a dozen or so fully electric buses in Milton Keynes. Full charge overnight, and inductive charging at the bus station in Bletchley at the 10-15 minute normal changeover point. Seems to work quite well, and fairly impressive when you consider that MK is not really an ideal place for electric buses. Not much stop start compared to London, plenty of high speed dual carriageway (60-70mph limit)
I imagine the reason for testing in MK is because it is NOT ideal for electric, in terms of use profile, but relatively compact for sorting out problems or sending out replacement buses. Wouldn't want to test in a rural county with low frequency bus routes!
I imagine the reason for testing in MK is because it is NOT ideal for electric, in terms of use profile, but relatively compact for sorting out problems or sending out replacement buses. Wouldn't want to test in a rural county with low frequency bus routes!
Ares said:
poing said:
It wasn't really used in a real life conditions though. I don't mind a bit of headline grabbing but at least tell the truth. A bus, by it's nature, needs to carry people. It needs to speed up and slow down and it needs to be driven by a homicidal maniac not a calm professional driver going at a constant slow speed.
To be fair to them I think they estimate 350 miles in real driving, likely depends how many cyclists are stuck in the wheels, and the average London bus does around 100 miles a day so it's more than possible to use these which would be fantastic progress.
If we can now find a way to charge it using the farts of passengers we'll have free public transport!
Nice. Well done for your strong entry into prick of the week. To be fair to them I think they estimate 350 miles in real driving, likely depends how many cyclists are stuck in the wheels, and the average London bus does around 100 miles a day so it's more than possible to use these which would be fantastic progress.
If we can now find a way to charge it using the farts of passengers we'll have free public transport!
poing said:
Ares said:
poing said:
It wasn't really used in a real life conditions though. I don't mind a bit of headline grabbing but at least tell the truth. A bus, by it's nature, needs to carry people. It needs to speed up and slow down and it needs to be driven by a homicidal maniac not a calm professional driver going at a constant slow speed.
To be fair to them I think they estimate 350 miles in real driving, likely depends how many cyclists are stuck in the wheels, and the average London bus does around 100 miles a day so it's more than possible to use these which would be fantastic progress.
If we can now find a way to charge it using the farts of passengers we'll have free public transport!
Nice. Well done for your strong entry into prick of the week. To be fair to them I think they estimate 350 miles in real driving, likely depends how many cyclists are stuck in the wheels, and the average London bus does around 100 miles a day so it's more than possible to use these which would be fantastic progress.
If we can now find a way to charge it using the farts of passengers we'll have free public transport!
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