Merc Conversion Advice

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Hunter T

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401 posts

177 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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I know il get all the "why would you" posts but here goes.
I really like the looks of the SL65 black wide arch cars and although i dont have the 200k to buy one, the look can be achieved for 15k, which is a realistic proposition.
Now my dilemma is whether to go for a SL 500 or a SL55 as a base car.
The 55s are making 15k ish and a 500 can be had for 8. Both go reasonably well.
Now with the 55 and the kit id have a car that looked great and gave me 90% of the performance, with the 500 it would be more like 70%.
Would i be taking value away from a possible classic by modding the 55?
I would would be trading in my 911 997 C4S to do this.
Cheers in advance guys

KillerHERTZ

942 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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EVERY single one of these conversions ends up cracking/chipping major bodywork issues.

Avoid like the plague.

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Leave your PH card at the door please.

MorganP104

2,605 posts

130 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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I'm not much into modifying cars, but as alluded to in your original post, you're better off "tarting up" an SL500, rather than "ruining" an SL55 AMG, if that makes sense.

Uncle Ron

401 posts

99 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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I think if you do this you'll have to write off any classic value you'd hoped the car would have.. Take a look at say a Renault 5 GTT (or any other classic really), is it the ones with the mad bodykits or the completely standard car that people want to buy?

If you really like the look of it and don't care about values then buy one that's already been done, there are plenty out there (albeit at often silly prices)

pomodori

4,404 posts

79 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Do I read right,15K for the body mods and wheels,presumably ?

Bit steep.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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If you're going to make it look mean it needs to keep up with a Golf R at least... 55K required.

I'd be very wary of a stick-on bodykit, rather than panel replacement.

Whitean3

2,185 posts

198 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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I'd ignore the naysayers, if this is the car you dream of, and would intend to keep for a long time; there would almost certainly be a market for selling on anyway.
BUT: as others have said- I would try to do it properly, with metal work mods to the bodywork (arches); make sure the quality and fit of the bumpers is as good as possible.

And I'd do it to a 55 AMG so the performance matches the looks; or (if it gets anywhere close to budget) get the 600 with the V12, some tubular manifolds/exhaust will make it sound like a Zonda smile

Then post your build thread in Readers Cars...

BIRMA

3,808 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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The sort 'in your face ' looks of the original car are backed up by proper performance and proper sized discs etc. No matter how much you spend on it the copies just don't look right. I saw one (a copy) at an independent in Horndean a year or so back that looked like it had a fortune spent on it but the rear discs were weedy looking and gave it away.
My advice buy the best 55 you can and just enjoy it. It's a bit like people who put AMG or M badges on their cars regardless of how much you spend?waste it will always be a copy.

sinbaddio

2,374 posts

176 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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One of the TV programmes did this in the last few months (USA show on Discovery UK I think). But they bought a very cheap accident damaged SL55 as the kit included actual replacement panels rather than just 'stick on' bits.

Could be a more cost effective way of doing it, and you're not 'ruining' an original good condition car.


J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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sinbaddio said:
One of the TV programmes did this in the last few months (USA show on Discovery UK I think). But they bought a very cheap accident damaged SL55 as the kit included actual replacement panels rather than just 'stick on' bits.

Could be a more cost effective way of doing it, and you're not 'ruining' an original good condition car.
The Orange one ?

Junkyard Empire, it looked a bit crap in Orange, needed to be an OEM sort of colour to look any way authentic and not a dogs dinner.

Car-Matt

1,923 posts

138 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Do it with Metal not fibre and it will be great

sinbaddio

2,374 posts

176 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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J4CKO said:
sinbaddio said:
One of the TV programmes did this in the last few months (USA show on Discovery UK I think). But they bought a very cheap accident damaged SL55 as the kit included actual replacement panels rather than just 'stick on' bits.

Could be a more cost effective way of doing it, and you're not 'ruining' an original good condition car.
The Orange one ?

Junkyard Empire, it looked a bit crap in Orange, needed to be an OEM sort of colour to look any way authentic and not a dogs dinner.
That was it! Agreed, the colour was horrific, but I seem to recall they got something like $100k for it!?

Resolutionary

1,259 posts

171 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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I've seen a couple of SL65 reps at shows, one of them was based on a 350 which I couldn't stand primarily because of the BLACK EDITION badges everywhere, but I've seen a 55 and 500 with the wide kit, some concave wheels and stoppers to match the looks which didn't have replica badges and thus were 'just' a tarted up (in a good way) cooking model.

My advice; do what you wish as it's your budget and concept - just don't go for the obvious poorly fitted plastic kits and wheels with stupid offsets or maaad dish - and for the love of god don't badge it up as something it isn't.

Think about it this way - you could add lots of Gemballa items to your 997, but it'll never be what it is even with the badges / stickers, unless you spend well over the odds on the best rep you can build. If you're happy to have a car that will, on resale, appeal to less individuals than it would have in standard form, go forth!

Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Sovereign Car Sales near Winchester have two in stock, an orange car based on the 350, now priced at £16k, and a grey car based on the 500 priced at £19k.

They have both been for sale for 18 months or so, and at one stage were both around the £30k + mark.

You could save yourself some time and money and buy one of those possibly, but don't be in a hurry to resell. There isn''t a huge market for them if you are a discerning aficionado of the SL wink

They look naff.

Edited by Monkeylegend on Thursday 21st September 15:13

Resolutionary

1,259 posts

171 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Monkeylegend said:
Sovereign Car Sales near Winchester have two in stock, an orange car based on the 350, now priced at £16k, and a grey car based on the 500 priced at £19k.

They have both been for sale for well 18 months or so, and at one stage were both around the £30k + mark.

You could save yourself some time and money and buy one of those possibly, but don't be in a hurry to resell. There isn''t a huge market for them if you are a discerning aficionado of the SL wink

They look naff.
That orange one is sat so high at the back it's making my teeth itch. And why offset the numberplate in such a way?!

The grey one is a much more appealing proposition but the V12 BITURBO badging makes me feel sad.

Monkeylegend

26,386 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Resolutionary said:
Monkeylegend said:
Sovereign Car Sales near Winchester have two in stock, an orange car based on the 350, now priced at £16k, and a grey car based on the 500 priced at £19k.

They have both been for sale for well 18 months or so, and at one stage were both around the £30k + mark.

You could save yourself some time and money and buy one of those possibly, but don't be in a hurry to resell. There isn''t a huge market for them if you are a discerning aficionado of the SL wink

They look naff.
That orange one is sat so high at the back it's making my teeth itch. And why offset the numberplate in such a way?!

The grey one is a much more appealing proposition but the V12 BITURBO badging makes me feel sad.
My naff comment was referring to the rear end of the Orange car, it just doesn't look right does it.

J4CKO

41,558 posts

200 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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sinbaddio said:
J4CKO said:
sinbaddio said:
One of the TV programmes did this in the last few months (USA show on Discovery UK I think). But they bought a very cheap accident damaged SL55 as the kit included actual replacement panels rather than just 'stick on' bits.

Could be a more cost effective way of doing it, and you're not 'ruining' an original good condition car.
The Orange one ?

Junkyard Empire, it looked a bit crap in Orange, needed to be an OEM sort of colour to look any way authentic and not a dogs dinner.
That was it! Agreed, the colour was horrific, but I seem to recall they got something like $100k for it!?
Yeah, funny how they always have a friend who loves stuff like that, and it never languishes like a sad old donkey for years at that mad price like cars that look like a dogs dinner do in reality.

Shappers24

816 posts

86 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Resolutionary said:
Monkeylegend said:
Sovereign Car Sales near Winchester have two in stock, an orange car based on the 350, now priced at £16k, and a grey car based on the 500 priced at £19k.

They have both been for sale for well 18 months or so, and at one stage were both around the £30k + mark.

You could save yourself some time and money and buy one of those possibly, but don't be in a hurry to resell. There isn''t a huge market for them if you are a discerning aficionado of the SL wink

They look naff.
That orange one is sat so high at the back it's making my teeth itch. And why offset the numberplate in such a way?!

The grey one is a much more appealing proposition but the V12 BITURBO badging makes me feel sad.
Not to mention the lpg filling on the offside rear bumper

Resolutionary

1,259 posts

171 months

Thursday 21st September 2017
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Shappers24 said:
Not to mention the lpg filling on the offside rear bumper
Christ.