A45 AMG diff problem?

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KinseyYJB

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1 posts

79 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Hi guys,

I took delivery of my 64plate A45 AMG on Saturday. (51k miles)

Yesterday morning I noticed a clunk noise at the rear when turning while doing just over manouvering speed.

I called the dealer, who said this was normal on a 4WD.

It seemed a little worse today so I called into the MB dealer, who again said it was normal, but agreed to go for a test drive with me.

He heard the noise, this time quite quiet, and agreed it was normal, but a little further down the road, it did it a lot louder, which he was concerned by, so took a mechanic out in it. He told me it appears the diff might have gone, and to check with the garage regarding warranty. He said it was still fine to drive though.

Anyway, I took it home and needed to use it a few hours later.

This time it was way worse. Horrible grinding noise and more or less constant so I turned back and when I pulled on the drive, there was a huge patch of oil which appears to have come from the rear centre of the car.

I'm no mechanic by the way.

So, my question is, does anyone know what this could be, is it the diff?

Any help is appreciated.

ecsrobin

17,117 posts

165 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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The mechanic suggested the diff is gone so I’m going with.......


The diff.

Leptons

5,113 posts

176 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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The Diff is fitted between the two rear wheels in the centre of the car. It’s also filled with Oil, so yes I would say you’ve got Diff issues.

Vaud

50,467 posts

155 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Stop driving it. It may be diff related.

Josho

748 posts

97 months

Monday 25th September 2017
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Terrible advice to keep driving it.

If it goes it can potentially lock both rear wheels up solidly.

RedAMG45

734 posts

159 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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As people have said do not drive it
Get the garage to pick it up

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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Josho said:
Terrible advice to keep driving it.

If it goes it can potentially lock both rear wheels up solidly.
yes And if it's dumped all its oil on your drive, that's probably not that unlikely. It will get very hot very quickly if driven (or indeed towed).

If it failed that soon after you got the car they should fix it for free; they'd struggle to argue the fault wasn't there when you bought it or that the car is "fit for purpose" with a knackered differential.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 26th September 08:14

cobra kid

4,942 posts

240 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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From what you're saying, it sounds like the diff. The rear one, not the front one.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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kambites said:
Josho said:
Terrible advice to keep driving it.

If it goes it can potentially lock both rear wheels up solidly.
yes And if it's dumped all its oil on your drive, that's probably not that unlikely. It will get very hot very quickly if driven (or indeed towed).

If it failed that soon after you got the car they should fix it for free; they'd struggle to argue the fault wasn't there when you bought it or that the car is "fit for purpose" with a knackered differential.
Agreed on all points, don't drive it anywhere and make sure they sort it gratis! Obviously a pre-existing fault.

AH33

2,066 posts

135 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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My sympathies. Someone's been launching it up and down a high street somewhere.

DMAndy

103 posts

190 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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KinseyYJB said:
Yesterday morning I noticed a clunk noise at the rear when turning while doing just over manouvering speed.
This bit is normal BTW. Apparently its the rear diff disengaging.

KinseyYJB said:
... Horrible grinding noise and more or less constant ...
This bit isn't.

daemon

35,816 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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Our doesnt do that and taking in to account all the evidence presented including the diagnosis from Mercedes, i'd say the rear diff is gone.

Edited by daemon on Tuesday 26th September 13:04

hornmeister

809 posts

91 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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I'm not an expert but has anyone suggested that the diff might have gone?

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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But where would the rear diff have gone?


My S60R has a Haldex awd system which I should imagine is similar, 125k miles on and has never had to have a diff. 50k miles is pretty poor.

99dndd

2,084 posts

89 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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Wonder if the diff's gone?

JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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Ahbefive said:
But where would the rear diff have gone?


My S60R has a Haldex awd system which I should imagine is similar, 125k miles on and has never had to have a diff. 50k miles is pretty poor.
I'm guessing your S60R hasn't been beaten everywhere and launched at every available opportunity.

Dr Interceptor

7,784 posts

196 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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My money is on the diff....

OP - weld 'er up, go drifting biggrin

MrBarry123

6,027 posts

121 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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99dndd said:
Wonder if the diff's gone?
Don't be so silly.

Ahbefive

11,657 posts

172 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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JB! said:
I'm guessing your S60R hasn't been beaten everywhere and launched at every available opportunity.
True, it doesn't get launched with the old "let go of the clutch" method but it has had a couple of track sessions and some quite hard driving at times as well a as making similar power and torque to an a45.

Maybe this a45 has had launch control engaged at every set of traffic lights for 59k miles or has a poorly made diff. Doesn't sound like a keeper.

daemon

35,816 posts

197 months

Tuesday 26th September 2017
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Ahbefive said:
Maybe this a45 has had launch control engaged at every set of traffic lights for 59k miles or has a poorly made diff. Doesn't sound like a keeper.
Without knowing the history of the car, that sounds a bit unfair.

Apart from anything, you dont need launch control to burn off pretty much everything else at the lights anyway if thats your bag, and to be honest its more hassle than its worth to try to engage it, relative to the time it might actually save you.

Could be a straightforward failure. Its a lot of power to be putting down the road.