Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

Ask a car salesman anything...anything at all.

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lord trumpton

7,383 posts

126 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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How is the used car sales market faring at the moment?

On a few other brand specific car forums people are moaning how difficult they are finding it selling their cars (private sales though)

An example is on a BMW M car forum where the likes of the once in demand V8 E9X M3 cars are taking root - even the high spec/low miles mintboxes.

toasty

7,466 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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lord trumpton said:
How is the used car sales market faring at the moment?

On a few other brand specific car forums people are moaning how difficult they are finding it selling their cars (private sales though)

An example is on a BMW M car forum where the likes of the once in demand V8 E9X M3 cars are taking root - even the high spec/low miles mintboxes.
I put my E92 M3 up for sale last Sunday, it was gone on Monday to the first enquirer. I had two others interested. Price them sensibly and they'll go quickly enough.

Toyoda

1,557 posts

100 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Why would a Ford main dealer allow such twaddle to be written on an advert:

"This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."

Buster73

5,058 posts

153 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Toyoda said:
Why would a Ford main dealer allow such twaddle to be written on an advert:

"This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."
Aiming your advert at the target market , nothing wrong with that at all.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Toyoda said:
Why would a Ford main dealer allow such twaddle to be written on an advert:

"This ST-3 is packed with power and is FULLY BLACKED OUT giving it that stealth and low profile look. It's been well looked after previously and is in IMMACULATE CONDITION. , , Our Focus is fitted with a STYLING KIT meaning you get a FULL BODY KIT ENHANCEMENT, LOWERED SPORTS SUSPENSION for a race feel, FULL BLACK LEATHER SPORTS RECARO SEATS which are also heated, stainless steel race pedal STAINLESS STEEL RACE PEDALS and even TEMPERATURE GAUGES on the dashboard. , , It's fast to drive, and gives off that adrenaline buzz when you hear it go."
Because he's very cleverly trying to speaka da lingo of the sort of person who would buy a blacked out ST3.

Sneaky sneaky catchee punters

lord trumpton

7,383 posts

126 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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toasty said:
lord trumpton said:
How is the used car sales market faring at the moment?

On a few other brand specific car forums people are moaning how difficult they are finding it selling their cars (private sales though)

An example is on a BMW M car forum where the likes of the once in demand V8 E9X M3 cars are taking root - even the high spec/low miles mintboxes.
I put my E92 M3 up for sale last Sunday, it was gone on Monday to the first enquirer. I had two others interested. Price them sensibly and they'll go quickly enough.
Interesting - glad it sold.

Mind me asking the detail?

Also where did it sell? AT?

I'm looking to sell mine but have been put off until now...

4941cc

25,867 posts

206 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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lord trumpton said:
An example is on a BMW M car forum where the likes of the once in demand V8 E9X M3 cars are taking root - even the high spec/low miles mintboxes.
Usually because the owners have an over-inflated expectation of price, particularly the sort of owners who frequent single make/model forums...

Toyoda

1,557 posts

100 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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Haha you might be right. I've read some of their other adverts and they've a similar vibe. Local clientele must appreciate patronising waffling adverts.

KIA RIO:
"There's LOADS OF SPACE for friends or family to chill out in the rear"

VW UP:
"The fab little city car comes with a DISPLAY SCREEN in the centre console which tells you the time/date and the station you're listening to. If you fancy your own music then there's a CD PLAYER so you can chill out and be your own DJ on the road"

FOCUS:
It caters for families too due the boot size and other nick-nacks such as the ISOFIX SYSTEM for child seats

Maybe the work experience kid is in. Would expect a touch more professionalism from a main dealer. Never heard Isofix described as a 'nick-nack'

Edited by Toyoda on Wednesday 8th May 13:45

toasty

7,466 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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lord trumpton said:
Interesting - glad it sold.

Mind me asking the detail?

Also where did it sell? AT?

I'm looking to sell mine but have been put off until now...
No worries. Details below. Advertised on here.

Mileage: 83,000 Fuel Type: Petrol Power: 414 bhp Transmission: Semi Automatic
2009 Space Grey M3 Coupe with 83000 miles
Full BMW Service History MOT Until 28/07 DCT EDC Harman Kardon stereo Black leather interior Heated front seats Split Folding rear seats Rebuild UK throttle actuators with Lifetime guarantee.

Up for £14500, sold for £13750. It needed a few things doing to get it up to 100%, a couple of scuffs, minor corrosion to one alloy, service in 3500, possibly rod bearings etc.

I had to knock another £250 off provisionally as the spare key had gone walkabouts. Hopefully it'll be found in the next couple of days.

talksthetorque

10,815 posts

135 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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4941cc said:
They didn't sell a car from the interaction though. Try paying your bills with social media praise...
That was my point. Poster didn't even name the company. smile


lord trumpton

7,383 posts

126 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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toasty said:
lord trumpton said:
Interesting - glad it sold.

Mind me asking the detail?

Also where did it sell? AT?

I'm looking to sell mine but have been put off until now...
No worries. Details below. Advertised on here.

Mileage: 83,000 Fuel Type: Petrol Power: 414 bhp Transmission: Semi Automatic
2009 Space Grey M3 Coupe with 83000 miles
Full BMW Service History MOT Until 28/07 DCT EDC Harman Kardon stereo Black leather interior Heated front seats Split Folding rear seats Rebuild UK throttle actuators with Lifetime guarantee.

Up for £14500, sold for £13750. It needed a few things doing to get it up to 100%, a couple of scuffs, minor corrosion to one alloy, service in 3500, possibly rod bearings etc.

I had to knock another £250 off provisionally as the spare key had gone walkabouts. Hopefully it'll be found in the next couple of days.
Great, thanks for the info. Sounds like a fair price to me

I'm guessing it was a trade buyer?

toasty

7,466 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th May 2019
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lord trumpton said:
Great, thanks for the info. Sounds like a fair price to me

I'm guessing it was a trade buyer?
Probably, he didn’t say he was but wanted me to sign the V5 over to trade. I’m happy either way. Now if I could only find that damn key...

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Are all the main dealer chains using the same inflexible bog standard hard sell template these days ?? seems you can't just have a quick look and think you have to get though data harvesting and credit questions first, its even worse if you phone up using the link on auto trader as you go though to some central call centre ....

4941cc

25,867 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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powerstroke said:
Are all the main dealer chains using the same inflexible bog standard hard sell template these days ?? seems you can't just have a quick look and think you have to get though data harvesting and credit questions first, its even worse if you phone up using the link on auto trader as you go though to some central call centre ....
It is quite reasonable is it not to ascertain if a customer is a viable prospect or a timewaster? I fyou won't give us a name and contact number/e-mail, why do you need to know more detailed information than is available in the advert/listing and pics (that's your "quick look")?

By contacting them, you're expressing a buying motive (however latent), which is a sales interest. In an age where your database is key and actually forms a part of your business's value, it's a no-brainer.

"Who are you, where are you and why are you particularly interested in this particular vehicle at this particular point in time?"

mylesmcd

2,532 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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To the other car sellers here....how is the month going?

Mucking through several sub prime loan applications for my first delivery of the month. Shocking altogether.

Fast Bug

11,667 posts

161 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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mylesmcd said:
To the other car sellers here....how is the month going?

Mucking through several sub prime loan applications for my first delivery of the month. Shocking altogether.
I'm fleet sales so a little different, this month will see a big lump of orders go on the system but I've been working on that one for months. Fresh deals seem a little harder to come by

mylesmcd

2,532 posts

219 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Fast Bug said:
mylesmcd said:
To the other car sellers here....how is the month going?

Mucking through several sub prime loan applications for my first delivery of the month. Shocking altogether.
I'm fleet sales so a little different, this month will see a big lump of orders go on the system but I've been working on that one for months. Fresh deals seem a little harder to come by
I am a little hand to mouth atm.

Low lead count, high lead to deal/delivery ratio.

More balloons required!

Deerfoot

4,901 posts

184 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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4941cc said:
It is quite reasonable is it not to ascertain if a customer is a viable prospect or a timewaster?
It is quite reasonable is it not, to ascertain if your car is as described or a snotter?

When we were replacing my wife`s car last year one dealer wanted to appraise our swapper before letting us see their car. It was painful. He couldn`t quite grasp that if their car was unsuitable it wouldn`t matter if the deal was right.

We bought elsewhere.

spreadsheet monkey

4,545 posts

227 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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Deerfoot said:
When we were replacing my wife`s car last year one dealer wanted to appraise our swapper before letting us see their car. It was painful.
Sounds like the old-school approach of keeping you waiting in the customer lounge, spending time in several different sales and financing offices, keeping you waiting some more while they appraise your p/x, making you feel like you've "invested" your time, and hoping that eventually you'll just buy a car out of sheer desperation to make the torture stop.

gothatway

5,783 posts

170 months

Thursday 9th May 2019
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4941cc said:
If you won't give us a name and contact number/e-mail, why do you need to know more detailed information than is available in the advert/listing and pics (that's your "quick look")?
What a weird question ! I want to look at the model to see whether I have any interest whatsoever. Why should that lead you to want my contact details ? You're the timewaster here - last time I was looking for an estate, my first concern was whether the load lip height was OK for our dog to jump in. I can judge that for myself, thank-you - I don't need or want to be sat down with some ignorant oik who cannot type with more than one finger and would only look through the sales spiel and say "ooh, it doesn't say that anywhere, does it ?" and then go off for half an hour hunting for a tape measure. Wasting my time and yours.
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