Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 12]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 12]

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mattman

3,174 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Must stop looking - but £3,950 for the 645, 115k with FSH - sunroof and sports seats as well

Needs the wheels taken back to silver, but this is silly money - even if it is a trader in Wembley - not my 1st choice of purchasing location



https://www.gumtree.com/p/bmw/2004-bmw-6-series-64...

Blown2CV

28,697 posts

202 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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black wheels = fk off

that's my rule anyway

Prinny

1,669 posts

98 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Blown2CV said:
black wheels = fk off

that's my rule anyway
No disagreement from me either laugh

- The only car I have ever seen on black wheels that I thought looked good was an R129 Brabus, with the MB star shape 3 spoke wheels. It was black everything, in the days when applying ‘smoked’ tint to headlight/indicator lenses was the done thing too. smile

I suspect i’d hate the colour scheme now, and would get the wheels redone. But i’d still definitely like the wheel design - I always wondered if Brabus got hit with a C&D order from Mercedes on them, they’re so obvious, yet so rare??

Edit to add pic: (thx Zonergem) - like this, but ALL black...



Edited by Prinny on Thursday 23 November 15:58

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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r129sl said:
Riley Blue said:
SpeckledJim said:
4941cc said:
I'm sure you'd hate them both.
Noting but trouble, everyone on here says so.
I'd take the S8. I mean, it's aRonin classic, no?

Were the A6 not a S-Line car, i.e. were it a bit more Werthers, I'd take the A6: I suspect they make very discreet, very fast every day cars. The lower mileage would weigh in its favour, too. But not that one.
I had an D2 S8 (lovely bright blue with black interior) - I would defo go for the S8. That era had gearbox issues, so push the price down and budget for a gearbox service ( oil change, plus possibly a box refurb down the line). I'm negotiating adding one back onto the drive, but apparently I have to get a new job first (boring)...

thelawnet1

1,539 posts

154 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lexus-LS-460-se-limo-1-...

LS460 SE (Not the more desirable SE-L)

£5450 or best offer.

Head unit seems to be working but satnav isn't. 11 year old satnav useless anyway (but possible disc upgrade). Connect mobile phone using aux cable instead.

Seller notes parking brake error after flat battery. I had the same on mine in same circumstances. Resetting code using scanner resolved this with no issues.

Riley Blue

20,915 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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wsurfa said:
r129sl said:
Riley Blue said:
SpeckledJim said:
4941cc said:
I'm sure you'd hate them both.
Nothing but trouble, everyone on here says so.
I'd take the S8. I mean, it's aRonin classic, no?

Were the A6 not a S-Line car, i.e. were it a bit more Werthers, I'd take the A6: I suspect they make very discreet, very fast every day cars. The lower mileage would weigh in its favour, too. But not that one.
I had an D2 S8 (lovely bright blue with black interior) - I would defo go for the S8. That era had gearbox issues, so push the price down and budget for a gearbox service ( oil change, plus possibly a box refurb down the line). I'm negotiating adding one back onto the drive, but apparently I have to get a new job first (boring)...
I looked at a couple of A6 V8s some time ago but anything S-Line is a no-no with me, give me a SE every time (I have been known to suck Werthers). One of the biggest mistakes Audi made was the introduction of the S-Line spec in their bigger saloons though from the marketing point of view it was one of their most successful - fools and their money and all that...

Zonergem

1,368 posts

91 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Brabus 3 Spoke... There's a set on eBay at the moment being sold by Jaymanek, who runs Mercland.

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/17-BRABUS-MONOBLOCK-II-2-...

He is building an E500 wagon and the Brabus wheels were fitted to the W124 he bought in Germany as the transplant recipient.

Story here

https://www.500eboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=...

Parisien

622 posts

161 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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mattman said:
Must stop looking - but £3,950 for the 645, 115k with FSH - sunroof and sports seats as well

Needs the wheels taken back to silver, but this is silly money - even if it is a trader in Wembley - not my 1st choice of purchasing location



https://www.gumtree.com/p/bmw/2004-bmw-6-series-64...
Just be sure to buy his extended 2 year warranty for £350!!!!! Although am never sure if they work out with very old cars!


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Edited by Parisien on Thursday 23 November 17:32

Patrick Bateman

12,143 posts

173 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Am I alone in thinking the A6 is quietly handsome?

I seem to overlook them but I need to give them a closer look in my potential barge purchase. In smoker spec they look far more appealing than an equivalent e60, especially inside.

One deal breaker would be the ride, is it comfortable on the standard car? I've been a rear seat passenger in an S-line twice and even for only half an hour it didn't make me feel particularly well.

Zonergem

1,368 posts

91 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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One to avoid here, a red A-reg W123 300TD.





http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C937530

Described as 'bodywork ok except for the odd rust bubble here and there'

So how did Monday's MOT go?


Calmchap

177 posts

112 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Patrick Bateman said:
Am I alone in thinking the A6 is quietly handsome?

I seem to overlook them but I need to give them a closer look in my potential barge purchase. In smoker spec they look far more appealing than an equivalent e60, especially inside.

One deal breaker would be the ride, is it comfortable on the standard car? I've been a rear seat passenger in an S-line twice and even for only half an hour it didn't make me feel particularly well.
Particularly when compared to the early e60s, there really is no comparison versus the A6 interior. Of course, the drive on the A6 is dull and the suspension even on an SE spec A6 can feel "crashy" for some absurd reason, as if it were a viable substitute for "sportiness". Nice places to be on a long journey nonetheless.

Blown2CV

28,697 posts

202 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Prinny said:
Blown2CV said:
black wheels = fk off

that's my rule anyway
No disagreement from me either laugh
when i see a car with black wheels i just think it's been owned by a rood bwoy who likes to spend money on ill-advised cosmetic ste instead of maintenance. Even when they've been spec'd from factory smile

Patrick Bateman

12,143 posts

173 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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I don't like black wheels but it's not an automatic write-off when it comes to a purchase.

My Boxster had black wheels but has had a fortune spent on it prior to me buying it. More often than not though it is a sign of a car to not bother with. On a silver car they look particularly bad.

derin100

5,214 posts

242 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Blown2CV said:
when i see a car with black wheels i just think it's been owned by a rood bwoy who likes to spend money on ill-advised cosmetic ste instead of maintenance. Even when they've been spec'd from factory smile
I'm now old enough to have seen not only the E63/64 going through this cycle but also the E24 and even the E9 before that.

Who now, who wasn't around then, would believe that you wouldn't have touched an E24 or an E9 for those very reasons? i.e. the 'Gangsta' (or "drug-dealer" as we used to say back in the day) image and the risk that they'd been owned by people who couldn't really afford to properly maintain one of those models.

Is this what we're going to increasingly see with modern, highly complex performance/luxury cars in the future? They are just so complex and full of expensive technology that there is so much that can't be fixed or maintained by a halfway competent DIY mechanic. They are stuffed with technology and parts that HAVE to be replaced and cannot be fixed yet are hugely expensive.

For example, how many people really have wallets (or balls) big enough to run, for example, a V10 M5/M6? Even my specialist BMW Indie mechanic decided, after a very brief flirtation with one, that he didn't.

The word "Bork" now almost seems too benign and inadequate for some of these cars. Maybe we should have categories above "Bork" like "Super-Bork" and "Hyper-Bork"?





talksthetorque

10,815 posts

134 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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derin100 said:
I'm now old enough to have seen not only the E63/64 going through this cycle but also the E24 and even the E9 before that.

Who now, who wasn't around then, would believe that you wouldn't have touched an E24 or an E9 for those very reasons? i.e. the 'Gangsta' (or "drug-dealer" as we used to say back in the day) image and the risk that they'd been owned by people who couldn't really afford to properly maintain one of those models.

Is this what we're going to increasingly see with modern, highly complex performance/luxury cars in the future? They are just so complex and full of expensive technology that there is so much that can't be fixed or maintained by a halfway competent DIY mechanic. They are stuffed with technology and parts that HAVE to be replaced and cannot be fixed yet are hugely expensive.

For example, how many people really have wallets (or balls) big enough to run, for example, a V10 M5/M6? Even my specialist BMW Indie mechanic decided, after a very brief flirtation with one, that he didn't.

The word "Bork" now almost seems too benign and inadequate for some of these cars. Maybe we should have categories above "Bork" like "Super-Bork" and "Hyper-Bork"?
The Skillsets will appear to look after these cars. I'm sure most of it will end up being made by Bosch, Nipson Denso et al, and they will be reprogrammable.
I used to work with machinery that was fairly low volume ( say 500 units a year across a product range of 7 units)
The cost was £2500 from the manufacturer for the bespoke control board they shared. No other manufacturer used the same PCB for anything.

If they failed we could send them to a generic circuit board repairer ( no circuit diagrams available) and get them back repaired for £100-150.

On the last point, If we do go down the naming route suggested, we can rely on Pirelli and Formula 1 for further superlatives should they be needed.

biggrin

Prinny

1,669 posts

98 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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derin100 said:
For example, how many people really have wallets (or balls) big enough to run, for example, a V10 M5/M6? Even my specialist BMW Indie mechanic decided, after a very brief flirtation with one, that he didn't.

The word "Bork" now almost seems too benign and inadequate for some of these cars. Maybe we should have categories above "Bork" like "Super-Bork" and "Hyper-Bork"?
laugh Check my “fleet”! I propose a further, special category of “Prinny-Bork”. wink

BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Looks like the S211 is dead. My mechanic and his gearbox man think that one of the gear sets has gone bang so it will require a reconditioned gearbox for circa £1800, which I am debating spending on a car worth perhaps £3000 on a good day.

My current thinking is put it on Ebay with the hope of getting £500 and putting it towards some other barge for the former mrs BigBen. Sadly the replacement will probably not be a barge, although I would happily have another S211.

Ben

tobinen

9,184 posts

144 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Sorry to hear that Ben. That is definitely 'not good'

idiotgap

2,112 posts

132 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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A sad day, commiserations. My S211 is telling me it needs a service in 700 miles time, I think I'll get it done!

derin100

5,214 posts

242 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Prinny said:
derin100 said:
For example, how many people really have wallets (or balls) big enough to run, for example, a V10 M5/M6? Even my specialist BMW Indie mechanic decided, after a very brief flirtation with one, that he didn't.

The word "Bork" now almost seems too benign and inadequate for some of these cars. Maybe we should have categories above "Bork" like "Super-Bork" and "Hyper-Bork"?
laugh Check my “fleet”! I propose a further, special category of “Prinny-Bork”. wink
Haha! I just did. How long until you're homeless owning those two? biggrin

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