Should we be getting behind Brexit by boycotting German cars

Should we be getting behind Brexit by boycotting German cars

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wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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citizensm1th said:
Funkycoldribena said:
By the referendum it was pretty unanimous that leaving the sm was on the cards,if you were too thick to work that out then yep,you probably didn't deserve a vote.
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wow so now some leave voters were too thick to deserve the vote.
It's concerning how quick some people are to go all authoritarian/dictatorial when their arguments aren't very cogent.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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citizensm1th said:
wow so now some leave voters were too thick to deserve the vote.

a little harsh don't you think?

lets get this right your saying the leave camp actively lied to people hoping the thick would vote for them based on the lie that we could remain in the SM and that the thick would believe all the smoke screen about project fear?

i know the leave campaign was a cynical one based on falsehoods and lies but you mean to say they targeted the thick and uneducated to vote for something they knew could not and would not happen because people would be too thick to work it out?

saint farage's halo must be around his neck by now
This is getting too childish and ridiculous.
You carry on.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Nice twisting of words over project fear to suit your agenda BTW.
Sucks when the leave campaigns own words come back to roost don't it

i have the feeling you and the other brexiteers had better get used to it as the uninformed masses are expecting brexit to solve all their ills and lead them to a land of milk and honey trading with the world free from the tyranny of europe.

they are not going to give you 5,10,15 or 20 years to get it right either

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
citizensm1th said:
wow so now some leave voters were too thick to deserve the vote.

a little harsh don't you think?

lets get this right your saying the leave camp actively lied to people hoping the thick would vote for them based on the lie that we could remain in the SM and that the thick would believe all the smoke screen about project fear?

i know the leave campaign was a cynical one based on falsehoods and lies but you mean to say they targeted the thick and uneducated to vote for something they knew could not and would not happen because people would be too thick to work it out?

saint farage's halo must be around his neck by now
This is getting too childish and ridiculous.
You carry on.
ahhh the famous funkyfruitbaseddrink flounce when his argument gets picked apart and shown to be as hollow as the rest of the brexiteers promises

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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citizensm1th said:
Sucks when the leave campaigns own words come back to roost don't it

i have the feeling you and the other brexiteers had better get used to it as the uninformed masses are expecting brexit to solve all their ills and lead them to a land of milk and honey trading with the world free from the tyranny of europe.

they are not going to give you 5,10,15 or 20 years to get it right either
You'll get over it eventually.
I'm happy and don't spend my days worrying and worshipping the alter of the EU.
I view it like the Church of Scientology, people are terrified to leave but when they do it all becomes clear.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Tuesday 24th October 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
You'll get over it eventually.
I'm happy and don't spend my days worrying and worshipping the alter of the EU.
I view it like the Church of Scientology, people are terrified to leave but when they do it all becomes clear.
clear that they have been used and played by project leave and that their children's futures have been fked over by a few rich self serving politicians and their rich backers

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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citizensm1th said:
ahhh the famous funkyfruitbaseddrink flounce when his argument gets picked apart and shown to be as hollow as the rest of the brexiteers promises
If it gives you some sort of internet win when your post is absolute nonsense that I can barely translate,then take the win.
Ateotd the referendum is long gone,the second chance to vote libdem to stay in is long gone.
Democracies a bh when it doesn't go your way.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
Democracies a bh when it doesn't go your way.
Psssst we have not left yet.


and when comrade corbyn gets in thanks to the tories making a complete hash of brexit we will see just how long the brexiteers agree with that little statement.

Sine Metu

302 posts

126 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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limpsfield said:
On the subject of MINI manufacturing I thought this was interesting.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/mar/03/b...

(Yeah, but Guardian so commies, Corbyn, trade unions etc.)


A cast of the raw crankshaft – the part of the car that translates the movement of the pistons into the rotational motion required to move the vehicle – is made by a supplier based in France.

From there it is shipped to BMW’s Hams Hall plant in Warwickshire, where it is drilled and milled into shape. When that job is complete, each crankshaft is then sent back across the Channel to Munich, where it inserted into the engine.

From Munich, it is back to the Mini plant in Oxford, where the engine is then “married” with the car.

If the car is to be sold on the continent then the crankshaft, inside the finished motor, will cross the Channel for a fourth time.
So much for greener cars.

Hungrymc

6,662 posts

137 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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citizensm1th said:
and when comrade corbyn gets in thanks to the tories making a complete hash of brexit we will see just how long the brexiteers agree with that little statement.
He’d have been in already if he had taken a remain stance at the election and found a middle ground on tax. Missed opportunity against an incredibly weak PM that he will regret forever.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Hungrymc said:
citizensm1th said:
and when comrade corbyn gets in thanks to the tories making a complete hash of brexit we will see just how long the brexiteers agree with that little statement.
He’d have been in already if he had taken a remain stance at the election and found a middle ground on tax. Missed opportunity against an incredibly weak PM that he will regret forever.
Considering he has been against the EU his whole life, I doubt he regrets anything regarding the UK leaving the EU. He certainly wouldn't back a remain stance and didn't in the last GE and he hardly showed up during the referendum itself, because he was a leaver at heart trying to lead a majority remain group of MP's who at the time were after his blood and wanted him ousted.

Its amazing how all the Labour MP's have suddenly become Socialists, in reality they hate the bloke and what he is doing to the party, but they have found themselves powerless and don't have the balls to start another party. But that's all for a different thread really.

Mr Tidy

22,305 posts

127 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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citizensm1th said:
clear that they have been used and played by project leave and that their children's futures have been fked over by a few rich self serving politicians and their rich backers
Bcensoreds - the voters in the UK were used and played in the 1974 referendum. Nobody spelled out the full agenda of EU rule - they were lead to believe it was just about free trade!

And once people could see what it was leading towards they wanted out!

Are you an MEP by any chance? laugh There is an instant saving once we don't need to fund their salaries and expenses!

powerstroke

10,283 posts

160 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Funkycoldribena said:
You'll get over it eventually.
I'm happy and don't spend my days worrying and worshipping the alter of the EU.
I view it like the Church of Scientology, people are terrified to leave but when they do it all becomes clear.
This ... AND we are leaving the EU,NOT EUROPE ....


SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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Are we actually going to leave? I am not 100% sure and certainly not within the timescales. Let's see but I am not sure it is going to be as joyful as some may want...

mygoldfishbowl

3,700 posts

143 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
Are we actually going to leave? I am not 100% sure and certainly not within the timescales. Let's see but I am not sure it is going to be as joyful as some may want...
Yes, & joyful? It's gonna be tremendous.

Hungrymc

6,662 posts

137 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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jsf said:
Considering he has been against the EU his whole life, I doubt he regrets anything regarding the UK leaving the EU. He certainly wouldn't back a remain stance and didn't in the last GE and he hardly showed up during the referendum itself, because he was a leaver at heart trying to lead a majority remain group of MP's who at the time were after his blood and wanted him ousted.
Agree in everything apart from if he will regret it. He’ll never have a better opportunity or compete with a weaker government. Two policy compromises that were still aligned with Labour principles (even if one needed a compromise to his own) would have had him in No10.

It is topic of another thread, I was only responding to the “when Corbyn is PM” comment from another poster.

Hungrymc

6,662 posts

137 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
Are we actually going to leave? I am not 100% sure and certainly not within the timescales. Let's see but I am not sure it is going to be as joyful as some may want...
Well, the 2 year transition (and associated bill) starts to look very like this (weakened after the GE) government want the consequences to be born by the next government. Very little confidence or appetite in much of the political establishment so I’m still expecting (and hoping) that a compromise is reached. Such a shame we took this battle while Juncker was in position, a more reasonable / open minded EC president (or a less arrogant Cameron) and the whole thing was avoidable.

But back to the OP. And I’m a remainer (Obvious I guess from my comments). If we leave with no deal in particular, then we will need to be more conscious of our purchase decisions and (in that no deal environment) we should have supporting Britain as bigger factor in our thinking. We shouldn’t be ashamed of that, and it shouldn’t be the only factor. But we’re all going to have to take a bit more responsibility for and help sustain our economy at least until the new trading relationships are well established. I’d still much rather we remain.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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citizensm1th said:
lets get this right your saying the leave camp actively lied to people hoping the thick would vote for them
That's really quite well documented.


Mr Tidy said:
Bcensoreds - the voters in the UK were used and played in the 1974 referendum. Nobody spelled out the full agenda of EU rule - they were lead to believe it was just about free trade!
Given that people who could vote in 1975 are now at least 60 years old...

Mr Tidy said:
And once people could see what it was leading towards they wanted out!
Perhaps you forget that the UK government and UK MEPs were not only involved, but integral, to changing the EEC into the EU?

Mr Tidy said:
Are you an MEP by any chance? laugh There is an instant saving once we don't need to fund their salaries and expenses!
Perhaps if all of our 73 MEPs actually gave the first toss about doing their job, instead of only two thirds of them...

SarGara

365 posts

176 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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This topic was a mistake and most of the pages people just come accross as pr1cks on the whole. Nothing but a bunch of childish bickering and trying to point score with each other from both leave and remoaner sides. Nobody comes across as right/wrong, what a cesspool.

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Wednesday 25th October 2017
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SarGara said:
This topic was a mistake and most of the pages people just come accross as pr1cks on the whole. Nothing but a bunch of childish bickering and trying to point score with each other from both leave and remoaner sides. Nobody comes across as right/wrong, what a cesspool.
Given that there are lots of simple plain facts and charts posted, I summise that either you don't mean 'most of the pages', or you must have a dislike of the truth and it makes you feel uncomfortable, and therefore voted leave? hehe

Edited by RobM77 on Wednesday 25th October 09:03