RE: Gordon Murray launches independent carmaker

[anonymous-user]

GMD said:

launching under a new Gordon Murray brand and set to "buck the current trend for ever more complicated and heavy vehicles."

The problem is that in order to do that ^^ he first has to convince the great car buying public out of their, increasingly popular SUVs.

And that's the thing, you see. Engineering a small, light, simple car is actually the easy bit, but customers currently want big fat lardy complicated ones............

[Tankrizzo]

Needs that SniffPetrol "British niche car manufacturer" image posting...

[noble12345]

Im buying Murray because " Im worth it " ( flings hair to one side and pouts like a deranged lesbian )

Id like to say im interested but it all seems a bit ... fishy to me.

[smilo996]

Very interesting podcast with him by Motor Sport Mag where he essentially announced that he would do this and made his feelings (rightly) about the Veyron and co very clear.

Hope he does it.

[Rich_W]

I always liked the Yamaha "Smart car" concept.

T25, OX are all very clever, but a bit "meh" and Teewave AR1 was bloody hideous!



As above, you need buyers first if you want to make a go of it.

[Kolbenkopp]

smilo996 said:

Very interesting podcast with him by Motor Sport Mag where he essentially announced that he would do this and made his feelings (rightly) about the Veyron and co very clear.

Hope he does it.

Interesting! Would you have a link to that podcast?

Personally, I think the guy is a genius and his design ethos is as PH as it can get. He should have a virtual shrine somewhere on this website, but instead the resident heretics complain about the company logo?!

Really hope he goes for an Elan type car sub 60k. Very unlikely, but one can dream .

[johnnyreggae]

Come on PH lets have a group visit and/or competition to visit the 'One Formula' exhibition !

[The Hypno-Toad]

I know a Mazda dealer who was asked by someone from GMD if they had access to written off MX-5 Mk4 they could purchase...

[rodericb]

The Hypno-Toad said:

I know a Mazda dealer who was asked by someone from GMD if they had access to written off MX-5 Mk4 they could purchase...

Are they that hard-up that they couldn't just buy the leggiest 1.6 they could find?

[shakotan]

You may wish to follow the guys at Retropower, who Gordon Murray have tasked with building a Mk1 Escort with modern creature comforts as a daily driver for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiG7oNXC6w

[redroadster]

Big fan of Gordon Murray but is not I stream not just kit car manufacturing ,make a chassis stick and bolt bits too ? Hardly cutting edge now if it was printing cars I'd say that's more like it but am I missing something in how his do called concept is any different to Westfield Caterham etc ,just sounds a fancy name .

[anonymous-user]

Dakkon said:

thecook101 said:

My first thought was "Ouch, to compete with the new TVR then..?"

GMD are commissioned to make the first two new TVR models....I don't understand your post?

"The firm's first car is described as a flagship model, launching under a new Gordon Murray brand and set to "buck the current trend for ever more complicated and heavy vehicles. With our first new car, we will demonstrate a return to the design and engineering principles that have made the McLaren F1 such an icon." - So nothing like new TVR?

Sounds as though Murray is "doing a Lotus" and using customer money to develop his own projects, very much in the style of Colin Chapman,

• Jensen - paid for fettling the Lotus 907 engine used in Jensen-Healey and subsequently used by Lotus itself.
• Chrysler - paid for the 2.2 litre version of that engine used in Sunbeam Lotus and subsequently used by Lotus itself.
• DeLorean (a.k.a British taxpayer) - paid for Chapman's forays into trying to develop boats and ultralight aircraft.

[Marc H]

Stupid logo indeed! Like a 60s kit-car.

[AAGR]

C70R said:

Is this in any way related to "Gordon Murray Design", which has been promising a "revolutionary" city car and supercar concept since 2007? Has this guy actually done anything tangible since the mid-90s, or is he just trading on his F1 cred?

What a brave opinion. In fact I was wondering about the same thing too. Gordon Murray was an exquisitely successful F1 and Supercar engineer, but in the most recent decade he doesn't yet seem to have followed up with anything tangible since 2007.

Even so, like many other enthusiasts, I wish him well ....

[anonymous-user]

It looks like some horrible so-and-so has run that poor mermaid over. Look at the tyre tracks on her.

[Plinth]

[The Hypno-Toad]

rodericb said:

The Hypno-Toad said:

I know a Mazda dealer who was asked by someone from GMD if they had access to written off MX-5 Mk4 they could purchase...

Are they that hard-up that they couldn't just buy the leggiest 1.6 they could find?

Because by all accounts they wanted a Mk4 which is the current model launched 2 years ago.

[GetCarter]

johnnyreggae said:

Come on PH lets have a group visit and/or competition to visit the 'One Formula' exhibition !

Invite only I'm afraid.

I'll post some pics.

(Though I'm sure PH paps will have been invited). Expect theirs on 4th Nov.


ETA: if they are on the case!

Edited by GetCarter on Tuesday 24th October 18:19

[coppice]

The mermaid logo derives from the Murray family crest. And if a tortoise was good enough for Gordon Keeble, a mermaid 'with a comb and glass in her hand ' is just fine by me .

[johnfm]

Car will be interesting apparently.

Simple (manual, least possible driver aids), light, naturally aspirated.

I bet you £20 interent pounds it is a 3 seat design.