One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4

[Mort7]

Had a young woman wearing a hijab (not mentioned because I'm Islamophobic, but because it may have obscured her vision) who cut across my bows on a mini roundabout (my right of way, very close call) whose front and rear O/S tyres were completely flat. Car being driven at normal speed, seemingly oblivious to the problem.

[Solocle]

Mort7 said:

There's a steep winding hill on the A40 in the Chilterns, which has two lanes going up, and one lane going down. The down lane is separated by double white lines.

Coming down the hill last autumn, I rounded a blind left hander to be confronted by a stationary car blocking the lane, with the driver's door open, which was partially blocking the outside lane coming up the hill.

I slowed right down and, assuming that the car had broken down, prepared to assist, only to realise that the young woman driver was standing directly in front of her car taking photos of the trees in autumn leaf on her mobile phone.

A polite suggestion that she should move on was met with abuse. Good job I wasn't one of the 40 tonners which regularly use the road.

Is that Aston Hill perchance? It's an OUCC favourite to ride up, and parking like described would be ridiculous.

[Mort7]

Yep, Aston Hill. If you use it regularly then be aware that there are sometimes speed camera vans in the lay-by at the top, but usually pointing away from the hill.

Edit: Not a problem if you're on a bike, of course.

Edited by Mort7 on Sunday 27th January 20:46

[Solocle]

Mort7 said:

Yep, Aston Hill. If you use it regularly then be aware that there are sometimes speed camera vans in the lay-by at the top, but usually pointing away from the hill.

Edit: Not a problem if you're on a bike, of course.

Edited by Mort7 on Sunday 27th January 20:46

Hmm, I have gone through a scamera at 38 mph on my bike (in a 30), but didn't set it off!

[Liquid Knight]

https://www.facebook.com/norfolkpolice/photos/a.29...

Whenever Norfolk is a Winter wonderland the only thing I wonder is where half of the Darwinists on the road got their licence.

[PorkRind]

People that have the gaul to flash you for overtaking them, mostly doing 35/40 in a NSL. They're probably the sort that drive 35/40 everywhere!

[Turbotechnic]

PorkRind said:

People that have the gaul to flash you for overtaking them, mostly doing 35/40 in a NSL. They're probably the sort that drive 35/40 everywhere!

Absolutely! There’s plenty of these types out here in deepest darkest Suffolk, through their eyes I must be some sort of maniac for overtaking in a NSL and wanting to drive the speed limit.

[nonsequitur]

PorkRind said:

People that have the gaul to flash you for overtaking them, mostly doing 35/40 in a NSL. They're probably the sort that drive 35/40 everywhere!

I tend to think that there is more to this than meets the eye. Did the overtaker, prior to that manoevre:

• Tailgate
• Make gestures eg 'get a move on'
• Cut in sharpish after said OT.

These actions could very well induce a quick flash of the lights.

[yellowjack]

nonsequitur said:

PorkRind said:

People that have the gaul to flash you for overtaking them, mostly doing 35/40 in a NSL. They're probably the sort that drive 35/40 everywhere!

I tend to think that there is more to this than meets the eye. Did the overtaker, prior to that manoevre:

• Tailgate
• Make gestures eg 'get a move on'
• Cut in sharpish after said OT.

These actions could very well induce a quick flash of the lights.

And yet you can do all of the overtaking process "by the book" and see the overtaken driver get apoplectic. I've had one where I've been stuck behind a doughnut dribbling around all over the road for 5 or 6 miles, never exceeding 35 mph despite the regular 50 mph repeater signs. I'd held back because I "knew the road" and knew there'd be no opportunity to overtake safely for some time. Then the road became a little wider, and a little straighter and I've still held back in the hope that the less demanding road conditions would lead to him increasing his speed. But he didn't, he just carried on bimbling along as before. Only now the limit goes up to NSL.

So I pass him properly. Full pull out, observe, decide, accelerate, etc. Just in case there was a man with a red flag I'd need to avoid running over in front of the bimbler, I've stayed out longer than strictly necessary too, to avoid possible conflict. I get around the next bend and a Porsche which was about three cars back passes me, "making progress". All seems good again, Porsche driver was exceeding the speed limit, yes, but he passed me safely enough and it was none of my business how many points he was willing to risk getting.

Next thing I know I've got a car glued to my rear bumper, flashing his headlights. Wow! It's the bimbling doughnut who was holding up a convoy of traffic for five miles or more, but now an indicated 65 mph isn't enough for him? What has led to this change in his attitude? I have no idea. Maybe the Porsche driver pissed him off when overtaking him? Maybe now he wants to chase down the Porsche and I'm "holding him up"? I have no idea what, why, etc, but eventually we get to a roundabout where I'm going right. Turns out Captain Schizophrenic is going right too. Only from the left turn lane. I get the obligatory brake check (not a worry as I was fully expecting it by that point) as we exit the roundabout, followed by a brief period of him holding me back at about 25 mph. Then he revs up and fks off at silly speeds, presumably chasing after this Porsche, which had long since disappeared into the distance and could have turned off down any number of turnings or taken a different road away from the roundabout.

I rolled my eyes, my wife looked up from the newspaper and asked what his problem was, and we carried on at the speed limit (or thereabouts) to our destination.

It turns out that some people really are "just a bit mental" and they don't need much to set them off...

[Liquid Knight]

nonsequitur said:

PorkRind said:

People that have the gaul to flash you for overtaking them, mostly doing 35/40 in a NSL. They're probably the sort that drive 35/40 everywhere!

I tend to think that there is more to this than meets the eye. Did the overtaker, prior to that manoevre:

• Tailgate
• Make gestures eg 'get a move on'
• Cut in sharpish after said OT.

These actions could very well induce a quick flash of the lights.

+1

When a Nangkang tyre split on my Cinquecento at work I had to use an emergency spare to get home. As I was limited to 50mph I put a paper sign in the back window "SPARE IN USE!" and a 50 in a red circle.



On the way home for the most part I was overtaken safely and responsibly apart from...

1/ Range Rover decided to sit on my back bumper for half a mile before overtaking on a blind bend nearly taking out a motorcycle coming the other way.
2/ A Range Rover Evoke that sat on my back bumper, flashing headlights before overtaking in a gap not quite big enough and pulling into a driveway less than half a mile later.
3/ A Land Rover Discovery that nearly crashed into the back of my car before overtaking in a cloud of black smoke. Driver was on the phone.
4/ A Nissan Qashqai that just sat level with my driver side three quarter for about two hundred yards (looking like he/she/tablelamp were trying a PIT maneuver - sorry personeuver don't want to melt any snowflakes) before creeping past at about one and half miles per hour more than I was going.

[captain_cynic]

nonsequitur said:

PorkRind said:

People that have the gaul to flash you for overtaking them, mostly doing 35/40 in a NSL. They're probably the sort that drive 35/40 everywhere!

I tend to think that there is more to this than meets the eye. Did the overtaker, prior to that manoevre:

• Tailgate
• Make gestures eg 'get a move on'
• Cut in sharpish after said OT.

These actions could very well induce a quick flash of the lights.

Not in my experience. Most people flash because you dared to awaken them from their slumber and have affronted their attempts to make everyone do 38 on every single road.

I'm an assertive driver, not an aggressive one. Years of driving in Australia has taught me that a dawdler who you want to overtake should never be awakened before it's too late otherwise they will try to block you. So I do not tailgate, cut in or make offensive gestures until after they flash (flash me for overtaking and you get the bird).

If you're driving slowly, I will overtake at the first safe opportunity. If you're deliberately driving slow (whether you have a legitimate problem or a are simply a knob) you have no right to expect me not to overtake when it is safe. Doubly so if you're not in the left most lane.

Liquid Knight said:

When a Nangkang tyre split on my Cinquecento at work I had to use an emergency spare to get home. As I was limited to 50mph I put a paper sign in the back window "SPARE IN USE!" and a 50 in a red circle.

I've been there also (except it was 80 KPH). I stuck to the left and let people pass me without flashing, honking or making any kind of attempt to show my displeasure at being overtaken (not that I had any displeasure, I needed to go to a tyre shop and wanted to get there). What about you?

[Pan Pan Pan]

yellowjack said:

nonsequitur said:

PorkRind said:

People that have the gaul to flash you for overtaking them, mostly doing 35/40 in a NSL. They're probably the sort that drive 35/40 everywhere!

I tend to think that there is more to this than meets the eye. Did the overtaker, prior to that manoevre:

• Tailgate
• Make gestures eg 'get a move on'
• Cut in sharpish after said OT.

These actions could very well induce a quick flash of the lights.

And yet you can do all of the overtaking process "by the book" and see the overtaken driver get apoplectic. I've had one where I've been stuck behind a doughnut dribbling around all over the road for 5 or 6 miles, never exceeding 35 mph despite the regular 50 mph repeater signs. I'd held back because I "knew the road" and knew there'd be no opportunity to overtake safely for some time. Then the road became a little wider, and a little straighter and I've still held back in the hope that the less demanding road conditions would lead to him increasing his speed. But he didn't, he just carried on bimbling along as before. Only now the limit goes up to NSL.

So I pass him properly. Full pull out, observe, decide, accelerate, etc. Just in case there was a man with a red flag I'd need to avoid running over in front of the bimbler, I've stayed out longer than strictly necessary too, to avoid possible conflict. I get around the next bend and a Porsche which was about three cars back passes me, "making progress". All seems good again, Porsche driver was exceeding the speed limit, yes, but he passed me safely enough and it was none of my business how many points he was willing to risk getting.

Next thing I know I've got a car glued to my rear bumper, flashing his headlights. Wow! It's the bimbling doughnut who was holding up a convoy of traffic for five miles or more, but now an indicated 65 mph isn't enough for him? What has led to this change in his attitude? I have no idea. Maybe the Porsche driver pissed him off when overtaking him? Maybe now he wants to chase down the Porsche and I'm "holding him up"? I have no idea what, why, etc, but eventually we get to a roundabout where I'm going right. Turns out Captain Schizophrenic is going right too. Only from the left turn lane. I get the obligatory brake check (not a worry as I was fully expecting it by that point) as we exit the roundabout, followed by a brief period of him holding me back at about 25 mph. Then he revs up and fks off at silly speeds, presumably chasing after this Porsche, which had long since disappeared into the distance and could have turned off down any number of turnings or taken a different road away from the roundabout.

I rolled my eyes, my wife looked up from the newspaper and asked what his problem was, and we carried on at the speed limit (or thereabouts) to our destination.

It turns out that some people really are "just a bit mental" and they don't need much to set them off...

Absolutely this. I believe the 40 mph everywhere brigade are a bit mental. I came up behind such a f*ckwit some years back doing between 35 and 40 on a clear NSL road. It was early in the morning so not much traffic on the road, so indicated, over took and carried on my way
some miles further on I entered a 30 zone going through a village, and had slowed to the posted limit, when up comes f*ckwit at what must have been around 80 mph to get past me, and who then proceeded to drive through the village at the same speed. What in heavens name goes on between the ears of these f*ckwit types?.

[KerwinRobertson]

People that pull out into the left lane on a 2 lane road (40 zone) when you are just coming up to them on the outside lane, always gives me a moment of "did they see me?"

[Ares]

Pan Pan Pan said:

Absolutely this. I believe the 40 mph everywhere brigade are a bit mental. I came up behind such a f*ckwit some years back doing between 35 and 40 on a clear NSL road. It was early in the morning so not much traffic on the road, so indicated, over took and carried on my way
some miles further on I entered a 30 zone going through a village, and had slowed to the posted limit, when up comes f*ckwit at what must have been around 80 mph to get past me, and who then proceeded to drive through the village at the same speed. What in heavens name goes on between the ears of these f*ckwit types?.

Last few days, thanks to a dusting of snow, they've become the 20mph everywhere brigade...! Then get followed by a dozen sheep-like drivers, driving so close as to not allow anyone to overtake car by car.

Christ, the wrath cyclists get for cycling at 20mph holding the world up for hours and hours....

[fatboy18]

People that have no idea how to drive in icy conditions. No wonder Insurance goes up year on year

[mikey k]

Ares said:

Pan Pan Pan said:

Absolutely this. I believe the 40 mph everywhere brigade are a bit mental. I came up behind such a f*ckwit some years back doing between 35 and 40 on a clear NSL road. It was early in the morning so not much traffic on the road, so indicated, over took and carried on my way
some miles further on I entered a 30 zone going through a village, and had slowed to the posted limit, when up comes f*ckwit at what must have been around 80 mph to get past me, and who then proceeded to drive through the village at the same speed. What in heavens name goes on between the ears of these f*ckwit types?.

Last few days, thanks to a dusting of snow, they've become the 20mph everywhere brigade...! Then get followed by a dozen sheep-like drivers, driving so close as to not allow anyone to overtake car by car.

Christ, the wrath cyclists get for cycling at 20mph holding the world up for hours and hours....

Yep - went up to the Wirral on the back roads yesterday.
Littered with the muppets, including a Golf R drive hogging the outside lane of a dual carriage way, who took exception to the RWD drive BMW behind him wanting past and put his foot down for a second before he scared himself and pulled in to L1

[Liquid Knight]

captain_cynic said:

Liquid Knight said:

When a Nangkang tyre split on my Cinquecento at work I had to use an emergency spare to get home. As I was limited to 50mph I put a paper sign in the back window "SPARE IN USE!" and a 50 in a red circle.

I've been there also (except it was 80 KPH). I stuck to the left and let people pass me without flashing, honking or making any kind of attempt to show my displeasure at being overtaken (not that I had any displeasure, I needed to go to a tyre shop and wanted to get there). What about you?

Similar but I didn't finish work until my local tyre fitters closed so I had to cycle to work the rest of the week and got five new tyres (had a spare alloy) that weekend.

Edited to add: Don't you just love it when you see a car on an "Emergency" spare for days/weeks/months?

Edited by Liquid Knight on Friday 1st February 17:06

[rottenegg]

yellowjack said:

nonsequitur said:

PorkRind said:

People that have the gaul to flash you for overtaking them, mostly doing 35/40 in a NSL. They're probably the sort that drive 35/40 everywhere!

I tend to think that there is more to this than meets the eye. Did the overtaker, prior to that manoevre:

• Tailgate
• Make gestures eg 'get a move on'
• Cut in sharpish after said OT.

These actions could very well induce a quick flash of the lights.

[Snip]

And yet you can do all of the overtaking process "by the book" and see the overtaken driver get apoplectic.

So I pass him properly. Full pull out, observe, decide, accelerate, etc. I get around the next bend and a Porsche which was about three cars back passes me, "making progress". All seems good again, Porsche driver was exceeding the speed limit, yes, but he passed me safely enough and it was none of my business how many points he was willing to risk getting.

Next thing I know I've got a car glued to my rear bumper, flashing his headlights. Wow! It's the bimbling doughnut who was holding up a convoy of traffic for five miles or more, but now an indicated 65 mph isn't enough for him? What has led to this change in his attitude?

Yep, happens to me frequently. I think what brings it on is plain and simply - a control freak who just doesn't like the front of your car, in the same way those aggressive, Wetherspoons frequenting, trouble seeking thugs who don't like your face.

You WILL follow me at a speed *I* deem appropriate. Over take me at your peril.

[carlove]

Was alongside an A Class in traffic earlier (to my left) and I noticed there was a lot of light on the car in front, looked over and even I could see the blue telltale for full beam, how she didn't know her full beams were on is beyond me, the car in front of her was completely illuminated inside, the telltale was perfectly visible, bipped the horn to try and get her attention but didn't work. About 2 mins later a 2 Series came the other way also with full beams on, flashed my lights but they didn't switch off. Yesterday was behind a Toyota Auris and I could tell their full beams were on but they apparently couldn't, they then completely cut me off changing lanes without indicating.

How can people drive about with their full beams on without knowing they're on, completely clueless.

[Muddle238]

SH10 CKG... A BMW X6 deciding because of heavy traffic, it's acceptable to drive the wrong way around a fairly large roundabout. Whether the snow had anything to do with that decision I don't know, but then getting stuck because of RWD issues while facing the wrong way makes him/her a knob in my books.

Edited by Muddle238 on Friday 1st February 19:35