One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 4
Discussion
MKnight702 said:
I nominate the prat in the RS6 from this morning. I managed to overtake a Scirocco that was following the RS6 then a gap opened up and I moved out to overtake the RS6, unfortunately, Mr Small Penis decided that he didn't want me in my shoebox to overtake so he moved into the middle of the road and continued to trundle along at 50.
I don't have a dashcam but if I did that's exactly the sort of driving I would report to the Police. Anyone driving like that is a menace and you can bet your life the driver will be up to all sorts of other shenanigans when coming into contact with other road users. A few points and a fine would concentrate their mind wonderfully and since there are no TrafPol around it will be up to other motorists to get these idiots to see sense. I can cope with ditherers but aggressive obstructive driving really gets my goat.Black_S3 said:
On the other hand imagine towing something at 50 on a single nsl road to have a car crawl up behind you disappearing in your mirrors through twisties, then catching at 70 on the straights.... when the car eventually arrives on your tail and doesn’t attempt an overtake on half mile long straights the enivatable queue will build up. Do you think of pulling in? Or realise the problem isn’t actually you even though you could solve it but in the process get f
ked back having to overbrake for corners because of said tt...
Yep I recognise this behaviour. Smooth driving and maintaining momentum while towing quite often means being stuck behind a muppet who can't drive in the corners but want to go faster than 50 on the straights.ked back having to overbrake for corners because of said tt...Three single things from one guy this morning.
Firstly, using those plastic gloves to fill up. Not that in itself but on pulling one out another fell on the floor. He left it. (I picked it up later)
Second, ended up following him out of Flitwick. The road has a school on it and a lot of kids milling around at 8:45 ish. Pedestrian crossing lights change to amber, no slowing. Red, he continues.
Third, on the lane up to Millbrook i caught him up. Then just outside Center Parcs the hazards come on. Then the brakes. Then he turns into a well sited, long drive. Why not use the bloody indicators? Hazards just confuse everyone.
Knob, knob and thrice knob.
Firstly, using those plastic gloves to fill up. Not that in itself but on pulling one out another fell on the floor. He left it. (I picked it up later)
Second, ended up following him out of Flitwick. The road has a school on it and a lot of kids milling around at 8:45 ish. Pedestrian crossing lights change to amber, no slowing. Red, he continues.
Third, on the lane up to Millbrook i caught him up. Then just outside Center Parcs the hazards come on. Then the brakes. Then he turns into a well sited, long drive. Why not use the bloody indicators? Hazards just confuse everyone.
Knob, knob and thrice knob.
Edited by Hackney on Wednesday 22 May 10:09
Hackney said:
Three single things from one guy this morning.
Firstly, using those plastic gloves to fill up. Not that in itself but on pulling one out another fell on the floor. He left it. (I picked it up later)
Second, ended up following him out of Flitwick. The road has a school on it and a lot of kids milling around at 8:45 ish. Pedestrian crossing lights change to amber, no slowing. Red, he continues.
Third, on the lane up to Millbrook i caught him up. Then just outside Center Parcs the hazards come on. Then the brakes. Then he turns into a well sited, long drive. Why not use the bloody indicators? Hazards just conduse everyone.
Knob, knob and thrice knob.
What was he driving? So we can further judge the muppet. This is PH after all! Firstly, using those plastic gloves to fill up. Not that in itself but on pulling one out another fell on the floor. He left it. (I picked it up later)
Second, ended up following him out of Flitwick. The road has a school on it and a lot of kids milling around at 8:45 ish. Pedestrian crossing lights change to amber, no slowing. Red, he continues.
Third, on the lane up to Millbrook i caught him up. Then just outside Center Parcs the hazards come on. Then the brakes. Then he turns into a well sited, long drive. Why not use the bloody indicators? Hazards just conduse everyone.
Knob, knob and thrice knob.
Blown2CV said:
Liquid Knight said:
If you don't have the patience to respect others on the road be they pedestrians, dog walkers, joggers, cyclists, mopeds, motorcyclists, pensioner drivers, horse box towers or even caravanists or whoever in whatever other mode of transport other than your little centre of the universe on wheels...
...you are the problem.
bulls...you are the problem.
t. Well, it depends what you mean by respect. if you mean not endanger, not interfere with the progress of, etc then yea fine. If you mean you need to piddle along behind someone going far slower so as to not upset them, then that view can take a fking hike.The horse box or caravan tower isn't in your way deliberately. They don't wait outside your house and set off a few minutes before you plan to just to mess you about.
There will always be faster moving traffic than you, slower moving traffic than you; nothing you can do apart from just deal with it accordingly without taking it so personally.
It reminds me of the green or red light wave you get driving into some towns and cities. Locally it depends on traffic flow and what entrance you took on the roundabout outside town as to whether you get all green lights "Yippee I can be somewhere in King's Lynn a few moments sooner" or all red lights.
The number of times I have been riding the red light wave and the vehicle next to me has been launching it from each red/amber to try and beat the next red only to have to do an emergency stop from well over the thirty limit. I casually roll up to the line in the lane next to them a few seconds later. This never fails to amuse.
They're usually sat in their vehicle faces as red as the light, gesticulating light like a soccer player protesting to a card wielding referee, shouting "COMMMEEEEE OOOOONNNNN!" if the light doesn't change for more than a few seconds. Swearing if it takes a few seconds more before launching it off the red/amber again to the next red where the pantomime starts over again.
It is the end of their little world.
There is as much you can do about it than anything else on the road. Nothing. Just go with the flow.
Black_S3 said:
WJNB said:
Has anybody on the planet witnessed the ultimate 'knob', a caravanner pull over to allow the humongous queue behind to overtake? Surely to do so would spoil all the fun & the main reason for towing a caravan?
In 60 years of driving throughout the UK & Europe it is a phenomenon I've yet to witness.
On the other hand imagine towing something at 50 on a single nsl road to have a car crawl up behind you disappearing in your mirrors through twisties, then catching at 70 on the straights.... when the car eventually arrives on your tail and doesn’t attempt an overtake on half mile long straights the enivatable queue will build up. Do you think of pulling in? Or realise the problem isn’t actually you even though you could solve it but in the process get fIn 60 years of driving throughout the UK & Europe it is a phenomenon I've yet to witness.
ked back having to overbrake for corners because of said tt...BUT we have just got back from NZ where we borrowed a mates campervan for 2 months. Cars would just sit there behind as we did 55/60 and not overtake even tho there was plenty of opportunity. At the start we kept pulling over, losing all momentum etc, after 2 weeks we said f
kit and didnt bother. Asked around at campsites with other Brits and they all said the same. Kiwis cant drive for st. mikal83 said:
Black_S3 said:
WJNB said:
Has anybody on the planet witnessed the ultimate 'knob', a caravanner pull over to allow the humongous queue behind to overtake? Surely to do so would spoil all the fun & the main reason for towing a caravan?
In 60 years of driving throughout the UK & Europe it is a phenomenon I've yet to witness.
On the other hand imagine towing something at 50 on a single nsl road to have a car crawl up behind you disappearing in your mirrors through twisties, then catching at 70 on the straights.... when the car eventually arrives on your tail and doesn’t attempt an overtake on half mile long straights the enivatable queue will build up. Do you think of pulling in? Or realise the problem isn’t actually you even though you could solve it but in the process get fIn 60 years of driving throughout the UK & Europe it is a phenomenon I've yet to witness.
ked back having to overbrake for corners because of said tt...BUT we have just got back from NZ where we borrowed a mates campervan for 2 months. Cars would just sit there behind as we did 55/60 and not overtake even tho there was plenty of opportunity. At the start we kept pulling over, losing all momentum etc, after 2 weeks we said f
kit and didnt bother. Asked around at campsites with other Brits and they all said the same. Kiwis cant drive for st. mikal83 said:
We caravanned around the EU twice for many thousands of miles each time. If some cars were stuck behind us, and couldn't over take, we pulled over when we could and let them go, hey ho, I'm on an extended hols. If they just satnthere...have a nice day!
BUT we have just got back from NZ where we borrowed a mates campervan for 2 months. Cars would just sit there behind as we did 55/60 and not overtake even tho there was plenty of opportunity. At the start we kept pulling over, losing all momentum etc, after 2 weeks we said fkit and didnt bother. Asked around at campsites with other Brits and they all said the same. Kiwis cant drive for st.
I noticed the same when we spent a month all over both islandsBUT we have just got back from NZ where we borrowed a mates campervan for 2 months. Cars would just sit there behind as we did 55/60 and not overtake even tho there was plenty of opportunity. At the start we kept pulling over, losing all momentum etc, after 2 weeks we said f
kit and didnt bother. Asked around at campsites with other Brits and they all said the same. Kiwis cant drive for st. Though I did manage to get a speeding ticket as well
Blown2CV said:
bullst. then that view can take a fking hike.
Sorry to have to break it to you like this, but you have won the 'Charmer of the Month' award with that post.t. then that view can take a fking hike.I really cannot, with the prose and precision that you demostrate, think of a single post that will surpass that what you wrote.
Congratulations!
Liquid Knight said:
Blown2CV said:
Liquid Knight said:
If you don't have the patience to respect others on the road be they pedestrians, dog walkers, joggers, cyclists, mopeds, motorcyclists, pensioner drivers, horse box towers or even caravanists or whoever in whatever other mode of transport other than your little centre of the universe on wheels...
...you are the problem.
bulls...you are the problem.
t. Well, it depends what you mean by respect. if you mean not endanger, not interfere with the progress of, etc then yea fine. If you mean you need to piddle along behind someone going far slower so as to not upset them, then that view can take a fking hike.The horse box or caravan tower isn't in your way deliberately. They don't wait outside your house and set off a few minutes before you plan to just to mess you about.
There will always be faster moving traffic than you, slower moving traffic than you; nothing you can do apart from just deal with it accordingly without taking it so personally.
It reminds me of the green or red light wave you get driving into some towns and cities. Locally it depends on traffic flow and what entrance you took on the roundabout outside town as to whether you get all green lights "Yippee I can be somewhere in King's Lynn a few moments sooner" or all red lights.
The number of times I have been riding the red light wave and the vehicle next to me has been launching it from each red/amber to try and beat the next red only to have to do an emergency stop from well over the thirty limit. I casually roll up to the line in the lane next to them a few seconds later. This never fails to amuse.
They're usually sat in their vehicle faces as red as the light, gesticulating light like a soccer player protesting to a card wielding referee, shouting "COMMMEEEEE OOOOONNNNN!" if the light doesn't change for more than a few seconds. Swearing if it takes a few seconds more before launching it off the red/amber again to the next red where the pantomime starts over again.
It is the end of their little world.
There is as much you can do about it than anything else on the road. Nothing. Just go with the flow.
Liquid Knight said:
I don't know about you but I have never felt stuck behind anyone on the road. It's a simple case of it's safe to overtake or not. If it is proceed safely; if it isn't wait until it is then proceed safely.
The horse box or caravan tower isn't in your way deliberately. They don't wait outside your house and set off a few minutes before you plan to just to mess you about.
There will always be faster moving traffic than you, slower moving traffic than you; nothing you can do apart from just deal with it accordingly without taking it so personally.
It is the end of their little world.
There is as much you can do about it than anything else on the road. Nothing. Just go with the flow.
Exellent summation LK. But it is very hard to persuade our fellow PHers not to get overheated about being being behind a slow vehicle or any other sort of delay.The horse box or caravan tower isn't in your way deliberately. They don't wait outside your house and set off a few minutes before you plan to just to mess you about.
There will always be faster moving traffic than you, slower moving traffic than you; nothing you can do apart from just deal with it accordingly without taking it so personally.
It is the end of their little world.
There is as much you can do about it than anything else on the road. Nothing. Just go with the flow.
All they seem to want to do is get a move on under any circumstances and that slower drivers are a beastly inconvenience and should be banned from the highways.
Some people !
nonsequitur said:
Blown2CV said:
bullst. then that view can take a fking hike.
Sorry to have to break it to you like this, but you have won the 'Charmer of the Month' award with that post.t. then that view can take a fking hike.I really cannot, with the prose and precision that you demostrate, think of a single post that will surpass that what you wrote.
Congratulations!
nonsequitur said:
Liquid Knight said:
I don't know about you but I have never felt stuck behind anyone on the road. It's a simple case of it's safe to overtake or not. If it is proceed safely; if it isn't wait until it is then proceed safely.
The horse box or caravan tower isn't in your way deliberately. They don't wait outside your house and set off a few minutes before you plan to just to mess you about.
There will always be faster moving traffic than you, slower moving traffic than you; nothing you can do apart from just deal with it accordingly without taking it so personally.
It is the end of their little world.
There is as much you can do about it than anything else on the road. Nothing. Just go with the flow.
Excellent summation LK. But it is very hard to persuade our fellow PHers not to get overheated about being being behind a slow vehicle or any other sort of delay.The horse box or caravan tower isn't in your way deliberately. They don't wait outside your house and set off a few minutes before you plan to just to mess you about.
There will always be faster moving traffic than you, slower moving traffic than you; nothing you can do apart from just deal with it accordingly without taking it so personally.
It is the end of their little world.
There is as much you can do about it than anything else on the road. Nothing. Just go with the flow.
All they seem to want to do is get a move on under any circumstances and that slower drivers are a beastly inconvenience and should be banned from the highways.
Some people !
I have been guilty of all of these in the past. It took me far too long to realise I should not take anything on the road personally. That dangerously close overtake wasn't attempted murder it was a pillock who probably didn't notice I was cycling along the road. That tailgater isn't trying to intimidate or upset me, they're just too thick to be able to count as high as two. That pillock who almost hit the front of my car overtaking into a blind bend wasn't trying to run me off the road their fragile little ego could not handle my cheaper car being in front of them.
I don't take things personally any more. If something happens like that these days I feel pity for them instead of any anger or resentment toward them.
They're mostly forth generation ends struggling to drag up a fifth.
Blown2CV said:
nonsequitur said:
Blown2CV said:
bullst. then that view can take a fking hike.
Sorry to have to break it to you like this, but you have won the 'Charmer of the Month' award with that post.t. then that view can take a fking hike.I really cannot, with the prose and precision that you demostrate, think of a single post that will surpass that what you wrote.
Congratulations!
Not so much a knob today but very daft. I was waiting in a filter lane to turn right across a 2 lane d/c, van in opposite L2 flashes me like crazy to turn,and throws his hands up in despair when I dont. except that he forgets about,or didnt see,the car in L1 that WAS'NT flashing me, so if I HAD turned,I would have driven right into him!
And a definite knob the other day at Rest & Be Thankful roadworks who overtook 3 cars stopped at a redlight & drove right on through. Shame there are no red light cameras there
And a definite knob the other day at Rest & Be Thankful roadworks who overtook 3 cars stopped at a redlight & drove right on through. Shame there are no red light cameras there
Liquid Knight said:
The roads these days are like the Internet. There are those who use it as a means to an end, those who use it as a way of entertainment, some who use the roads to earn a living; but there are also those who sit around pre-offended looking for something to be upset about.
I have been guilty of all of these in the past. It took me far too long to realise I should not take anything on the road personally. That dangerously close overtake wasn't attempted murder it was a pillock who probably didn't notice I was cycling along the road. That tailgater isn't trying to intimidate or upset me, they're just too thick to be able to count as high as two. That pillock who almost hit the front of my car overtaking into a blind bend wasn't trying to run me off the road their fragile little ego could not handle my cheaper car being in front of them.
I don't take things personally any more. If something happens like that these days I feel pity for them instead of any anger or resentment toward them.
They're mostly forth generation ends struggling to drag up a fifth.
Completely wrong way to look at it IMO... ignorance and being stupid is no excuse for bad driving, they just shouldn't be allowed to drive.I have been guilty of all of these in the past. It took me far too long to realise I should not take anything on the road personally. That dangerously close overtake wasn't attempted murder it was a pillock who probably didn't notice I was cycling along the road. That tailgater isn't trying to intimidate or upset me, they're just too thick to be able to count as high as two. That pillock who almost hit the front of my car overtaking into a blind bend wasn't trying to run me off the road their fragile little ego could not handle my cheaper car being in front of them.
I don't take things personally any more. If something happens like that these days I feel pity for them instead of any anger or resentment toward them.
They're mostly forth generation ends struggling to drag up a fifth.
While I agree to not take it personally, and that it's very rarely if ever aimed directly at you, it does not mean you won't be a victim to their stupidity one day.
I've made mistakes, we all have, but the guilt I've felt afterwards will mean I'll never make that mistake again, even if there was no crash and no harm done.
The people you are talking about will continue in their ignorance, and you, me, and everyone else will have to deal with them, or maybe one day you won't, because you're under their car with a broken spine.
Granted we were talking about being held up by slower traffic - that shouldn't bother anyone and is not intended to affect you and you alone.
People who see an accident coming and do nothing to avoid it.
E.g. The 2 clips here https://youtu.be/0kB5Tsw1ffs?t=67
First one might not have been avoidable, but he definitely could have done more. Listen to his rage though, talk about not taking things personally on the road.
Next/Second one with the silver fiesta is definitely avoidable and I'm completely baffled as to why they didn't even try... bizarre behaviour.
E.g. The 2 clips here https://youtu.be/0kB5Tsw1ffs?t=67
First one might not have been avoidable, but he definitely could have done more. Listen to his rage though, talk about not taking things personally on the road.
Next/Second one with the silver fiesta is definitely avoidable and I'm completely baffled as to why they didn't even try... bizarre behaviour.
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