RE: ?100K Escort RS2000!
Discussion
Plinth said:
DrSteveBrule said:
£22k for an XR3 cabrio... what a joke. At least a charity is benefitting.
The Escort Cabrio had a list price of £12,337 back in 1989.Allowing for inflation, that is equivalent now to £30,350.
Beautifully restored (5 grand on body prep and paint, so we are told) and all proceeds for charity – I don’t think that was expensive at £22,500.
The other Cabrio (one owner, 11,000 miles) made £16,000 – effectively just over half its new price.
Seems pretty cheap to me.
I mentioned these prices to my colleague at work earlier, he laughed and said wrote off his mum's RS Turbo when he was a heavy-footed 19 year old caning around on his parent's insurance. He's not going to tell her what they're worth now.
I've had a Ford in my ownership since 1995, and still own one today as a weekend toy. Some of the fully pampered examples that were on sale there were very nice and commanded high prices, but even what I would call "usable" fast fords are now out of reach of the enthusiast. Worlds gone a bit crazy with the prices.
sortedcossie said:
I've had a Ford in my ownership since 1995, and still own one today as a weekend toy. Some of the fully pampered examples that were on sale there were very nice and commanded high prices, but even what I would call "usable" fast fords are now out of reach of the enthusiast. Worlds gone a bit crazy with the prices.
See the link I posted? I'd say that's a really good price for the kind of condition it is.DrSteveBrule said:
Plinth said:
DrSteveBrule said:
£22k for an XR3 cabrio... what a joke. At least a charity is benefitting.
The Escort Cabrio had a list price of £12,337 back in 1989.Allowing for inflation, that is equivalent now to £30,350.
Beautifully restored (5 grand on body prep and paint, so we are told) and all proceeds for charity – I don’t think that was expensive at £22,500.
The other Cabrio (one owner, 11,000 miles) made £16,000 – effectively just over half its new price.
Seems pretty cheap to me.
I mentioned these prices to my colleague at work earlier, he laughed and said wrote off his mum's RS Turbo when he was a heavy-footed 19 year old caning around on his parent's insurance. He's not going to tell her what they're worth now.
I quite like them, but not enough to spend that much….
Doesn't surprise me at all in any way. Not when you look at how the market for classics has gone in the last five years. I remember being delighted when I sold my 97k 205 GTI 1.6 for £3k in 2011 having bought it for a grand in 2006. Its probably worth three times that amount now. So I guess if this was £30k in 2011 (which it probably would have been) then it's just gone up in line with everything else. The MK1 RS Turbo Escort has in fact slowed in its rate of appreciation if anything, and when you look at classic Porsche prices hot Fords have been lagging behind for a few years.
J4CKO said:
Dont get it, old Escort with a Transit engine for 100 grand ?
They were great than the sum of their parts but jesus, drove one back in the day when I had a Mk1 Golf GTI and it felt old and a bit disappointing then, never mind spending 100 grand on one.
Nice piece of history but just cant get as excited as some over them.
And XR3i cabrios were pretty ropey at the time, but as a cultural icon, can sort of see that if it is box fresh.
Exactly. The Mark 1 Mexico etc were ahead of their time, came hot on the heels of the Cooper S and were a car of their generation. The AVO stuff was also hand built in a special factory and to me have a certain kudos. The Mark 2 though was never anything like as good. Built in the same sausage factory as millions of others, they just lost something and I thought the plastic front was slightly ridiculous on what was always a rather bland bodyshape. There were other, better/more interesting cars back then; Lotus Sunbeam, Golf GTi, Chevette HS, E21 323i.They were great than the sum of their parts but jesus, drove one back in the day when I had a Mk1 Golf GTI and it felt old and a bit disappointing then, never mind spending 100 grand on one.
Nice piece of history but just cant get as excited as some over them.
And XR3i cabrios were pretty ropey at the time, but as a cultural icon, can sort of see that if it is box fresh.
Even the much vaunted RS1800 wasn't all that; pretty much a stock Escort shell and the BDA with a single carburettor. A Sunbeam Lotus would eat it for breakfast and fart it out again later.
aaron_2000 said:
Totally standard, 217 bhp . lucido grigio said:
Not really a Transit engine is it ?
Named Pinto because it started off in that American POS.
First seen in the Cortina Mark 3; the very first batch of Pintos had the British built 1600 Crossflow until Ford of Germany could gear up to produce enough engines; it's why the Capri and Consul 2000 didn't get the OHC unit (Ford never called the OHC engine 'Pinto', but the T88) until 1974. The OHC was a UK design, built in Germany in the seventies and shipped worldwide. The Yanks made their own version from around 1974 with 2.3 litres (the Lima), and I believe a marine/generator version is still made by Ford today.Named Pinto because it started off in that American POS.
Edited by iSore on Thursday 16th November 22:30
And here it is, the 'Pinto' as still made for Ford:
Edited by iSore on Thursday 16th November 22:31
lucido grigio said:
I'm opposite to you anyway ,had an RS2000 MK2 ,not a very good one ,sold it in August ,bought a Scirocco GTI MK1,didn"t like it ,
sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
That's interesting sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
I went from a Mk2 Venetian Red RS2000, that was written off by a BMW, then went to a Mk1 1800Gti.....didn't really 'gel' with it at all and just not as much fun....so went back to another RS2000, a Mk2 ex-unmarked police car
At the time, all 3 were bought for under 10% of the one in this article
Someone mentioned classic 911s above and how those prices have rocketed even more. The one that amazed me was one of those early 130bhp Sportomatics ( awful thing ) going for a quarter of a million recently. A friend bought one of those in the 80s when they were about the cheapest 911 you could buy. He soon found out why they were cheap - it was awful! ....so soon sold it on.
s m said:
lucido grigio said:
I'm opposite to you anyway ,had an RS2000 MK2 ,not a very good one ,sold it in August ,bought a Scirocco GTI MK1,didn"t like it ,
sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
That's interesting sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
I went from a Mk2 Venetian Red RS2000, that was written off by a BMW, then went to a Mk1 1800Gti.....didn't really 'gel' with it at all and just not as much fun....so went back to another RS2000, a Mk2 ex-unmarked police car
yellow 1980 V Base model ,steel wheels etc 1 owner with FFSH.
lucido grigio said:
s m said:
lucido grigio said:
I'm opposite to you anyway ,had an RS2000 MK2 ,not a very good one ,sold it in August ,bought a Scirocco GTI MK1,didn"t like it ,
sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
That's interesting sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
I went from a Mk2 Venetian Red RS2000, that was written off by a BMW, then went to a Mk1 1800Gti.....didn't really 'gel' with it at all and just not as much fun....so went back to another RS2000, a Mk2 ex-unmarked police car
yellow 1980 V Base model ,steel wheels etc 1 owner with FFSH.
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