RE: ?100K Escort RS2000!

RE: ?100K Escort RS2000!

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V8 FOU

2,973 posts

147 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Sheesh!
I have an RS2000 with a Cosworth engine in bits. Best get it finished. Gotta be worth £30K going by this........

LP670

822 posts

126 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Joeguard1990 said:
Whoever got the 1999 R34 GTR V-Spec Skyline for £29k got themselves a bargain considering the prices I've seen them go for...
Also very rare to find one unmodified.
Ive heard it was a non-runner, but still a bargain.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Makes this the bargain of the century:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Plinth said:
DrSteveBrule said:
£22k for an XR3 cabrio... what a joke. At least a charity is benefitting.
The Escort Cabrio had a list price of £12,337 back in 1989.
Allowing for inflation, that is equivalent now to £30,350.
Beautifully restored (5 grand on body prep and paint, so we are told) and all proceeds for charity – I don’t think that was expensive at £22,500.
The other Cabrio (one owner, 11,000 miles) made £16,000 – effectively just over half its new price.
Seems pretty cheap to me.
Yay for charidee and all that but it's still a well polished turd of a car from the malaise period of Escorts. Hateful things.

I mentioned these prices to my colleague at work earlier, he laughed and said wrote off his mum's RS Turbo when he was a heavy-footed 19 year old caning around on his parent's insurance. He's not going to tell her what they're worth now.

sortedcossie

558 posts

128 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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I've had a Ford in my ownership since 1995, and still own one today as a weekend toy. Some of the fully pampered examples that were on sale there were very nice and commanded high prices, but even what I would call "usable" fast fords are now out of reach of the enthusiast. Worlds gone a bit crazy with the prices.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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sortedcossie said:
I've had a Ford in my ownership since 1995, and still own one today as a weekend toy. Some of the fully pampered examples that were on sale there were very nice and commanded high prices, but even what I would call "usable" fast fords are now out of reach of the enthusiast. Worlds gone a bit crazy with the prices.
See the link I posted? I'd say that's a really good price for the kind of condition it is.

Fresh Air Ian

117 posts

245 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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OMG - sometimes you could easily think the world has gone mad. This is one of them.

Some of those prices are nuts.

Plinth

713 posts

88 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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DrSteveBrule said:
Plinth said:
DrSteveBrule said:
£22k for an XR3 cabrio... what a joke. At least a charity is benefitting.
The Escort Cabrio had a list price of £12,337 back in 1989.
Allowing for inflation, that is equivalent now to £30,350.
Beautifully restored (5 grand on body prep and paint, so we are told) and all proceeds for charity – I don’t think that was expensive at £22,500.
The other Cabrio (one owner, 11,000 miles) made £16,000 – effectively just over half its new price.
Seems pretty cheap to me.
Yay for charidee and all that but it's still a well polished turd of a car from the malaise period of Escorts. Hateful things.

I mentioned these prices to my colleague at work earlier, he laughed and said wrote off his mum's RS Turbo when he was a heavy-footed 19 year old caning around on his parent's insurance. He's not going to tell her what they're worth now.
You are correct – not one of Ford’s best efforts!
I quite like them, but not enough to spend that much….

sortedcossie

558 posts

128 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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aaron_2000 said:
See the link I posted? I'd say that's a really good price for the kind of condition it is.
I missed that, seen it now, yes it does look tidy indeed.

mainline

79 posts

215 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Doesn't surprise me at all in any way. Not when you look at how the market for classics has gone in the last five years. I remember being delighted when I sold my 97k 205 GTI 1.6 for £3k in 2011 having bought it for a grand in 2006. Its probably worth three times that amount now. So I guess if this was £30k in 2011 (which it probably would have been) then it's just gone up in line with everything else. The MK1 RS Turbo Escort has in fact slowed in its rate of appreciation if anything, and when you look at classic Porsche prices hot Fords have been lagging behind for a few years.

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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J4CKO said:
Dont get it, old Escort with a Transit engine for 100 grand ?

They were great than the sum of their parts but jesus, drove one back in the day when I had a Mk1 Golf GTI and it felt old and a bit disappointing then, never mind spending 100 grand on one.

Nice piece of history but just cant get as excited as some over them.

And XR3i cabrios were pretty ropey at the time, but as a cultural icon, can sort of see that if it is box fresh.
Exactly. The Mark 1 Mexico etc were ahead of their time, came hot on the heels of the Cooper S and were a car of their generation. The AVO stuff was also hand built in a special factory and to me have a certain kudos. The Mark 2 though was never anything like as good. Built in the same sausage factory as millions of others, they just lost something and I thought the plastic front was slightly ridiculous on what was always a rather bland bodyshape. There were other, better/more interesting cars back then; Lotus Sunbeam, Golf GTi, Chevette HS, E21 323i.

Even the much vaunted RS1800 wasn't all that; pretty much a stock Escort shell and the BDA with a single carburettor. A Sunbeam Lotus would eat it for breakfast and fart it out again later.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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aaron_2000 said:
Makes this the bargain of the century:

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
Totally standard, 217 bhp scratchchin.

iSore

4,011 posts

144 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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lucido grigio said:
Not really a Transit engine is it ?

Named Pinto because it started off in that American POS.
First seen in the Cortina Mark 3; the very first batch of Pintos had the British built 1600 Crossflow until Ford of Germany could gear up to produce enough engines; it's why the Capri and Consul 2000 didn't get the OHC unit (Ford never called the OHC engine 'Pinto', but the T88) until 1974. The OHC was a UK design, built in Germany in the seventies and shipped worldwide. The Yanks made their own version from around 1974 with 2.3 litres (the Lima), and I believe a marine/generator version is still made by Ford today.

Edited by iSore on Thursday 16th November 22:30


And here it is, the 'Pinto' as still made for Ford:



Edited by iSore on Thursday 16th November 22:31

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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lucido grigio said:
I'm opposite to you anyway ,had an RS2000 MK2 ,not a very good one ,sold it in August ,bought a Scirocco GTI MK1,didn"t like it ,

sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
That's interesting
I went from a Mk2 Venetian Red RS2000, that was written off by a BMW, then went to a Mk1 1800Gti.....didn't really 'gel' with it at all and just not as much fun....so went back to another RS2000, a Mk2 ex-unmarked police car smile

At the time, all 3 were bought for under 10% of the one in this article

Someone mentioned classic 911s above and how those prices have rocketed even more. The one that amazed me was one of those early 130bhp Sportomatics ( awful thing ) going for a quarter of a million recently. A friend bought one of those in the 80s when they were about the cheapest 911 you could buy. He soon found out why they were cheap - it was awful! ....so soon sold it on.

Turbobanana

6,263 posts

201 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Sorry, but you’re all wrong: it’s a bargain.

There’s a 1972 Mini on eBay at the moment for £125,000. It suffers the ignominy (ignoMini?) of having been Chris Evans’ first car. That makes it worth, what, £123,000 more than it should be? No, just no.

_Leg_

2,798 posts

211 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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Keep it up everyone. :-)

My 72 RS1600 BDA. Awesome fun for 20 years and then a nice tax free pension pot.


lucido grigio

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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s m said:
lucido grigio said:
I'm opposite to you anyway ,had an RS2000 MK2 ,not a very good one ,sold it in August ,bought a Scirocco GTI MK1,didn"t like it ,

sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
That's interesting
I went from a Mk2 Venetian Red RS2000, that was written off by a BMW, then went to a Mk1 1800Gti.....didn't really 'gel' with it at all and just not as much fun....so went back to another RS2000, a Mk2 ex-unmarked police car smile

Mine was a white with BVR 1978 S bought in February 1983 ,sold August 1984 and then bought the 2nd one in December 84 ,a Signal

yellow 1980 V Base model ,steel wheels etc 1 owner with FFSH.

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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lucido grigio said:
s m said:
lucido grigio said:
I'm opposite to you anyway ,had an RS2000 MK2 ,not a very good one ,sold it in August ,bought a Scirocco GTI MK1,didn"t like it ,

sold it in less than a few months and was back in a much better RS2000 MK2 by December.
That's interesting
I went from a Mk2 Venetian Red RS2000, that was written off by a BMW, then went to a Mk1 1800Gti.....didn't really 'gel' with it at all and just not as much fun....so went back to another RS2000, a Mk2 ex-unmarked police car smile

Mine was a white with BVR 1978 S bought in February 1983 ,sold August 1984 and then bought the 2nd one in December 84 ,a Signal

yellow 1980 V Base model ,steel wheels etc 1 owner with FFSH.
Friend had a yellow one, my second one was the Black one in front of it


Legacywr

12,120 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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_Leg_ said:
Keep it up everyone. :-)

My 72 RS1600 BDA. Awesome fun for 20 years and then a nice tax free pension pot.

If that's part of your pension pot... I think you'd be silly to hang on to it for 20 years!

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

163 months

Thursday 16th November 2017
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The other 2 RS2000s I had were a bit disastrous ,bought a beige V reg car in 1991 ,stolen about 6 weeks later.

My 4th one another 78 S, red car in grey primer was a project but it was so bad I cut it up myself.