RE: Tesla Roadster: 'Quickest car in the world'
Discussion
ZesPak said:
By the time Porsche eventually comes out with it's Model S competitor, it'll be seriously outdated.
Other manufacturers need to catch up, quick. It's all fine laughing with the Model 3 production problems, but once it gets rolling, there will be no stopping it.
As for the Apple/Steve Jobs comparison. No, just no. Elon is on another level than that hippie.
Apple is the most valuable company in the world and will be the first in history to break through the $1tn barrier. You being sour because their products are popular doesn't make the brand any less remarkable. Other manufacturers need to catch up, quick. It's all fine laughing with the Model 3 production problems, but once it gets rolling, there will be no stopping it.
As for the Apple/Steve Jobs comparison. No, just no. Elon is on another level than that hippie.
How can he say it will be the quickest production car in the world?
Project One and Valkyrie and BP23 are also being released in the same year, all of which I'm sure will beat the Tesla round a track in reverse.
Traditionally the p85,p90, p100d have advantage over a 1/4 mile. However take a look at look at the incredible traction control & almost no lag the 720s has (for a high powered RWD lightweight car amazing!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJYBy1GesDM
Project One and Valkyrie and BP23 are also being released in the same year, all of which I'm sure will beat the Tesla round a track in reverse.
Traditionally the p85,p90, p100d have advantage over a 1/4 mile. However take a look at look at the incredible traction control & almost no lag the 720s has (for a high powered RWD lightweight car amazing!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJYBy1GesDM
Crazy performance statistics but once you get over the press-and-hold-on factor, I'm not sure it will ever make the hairs on the back of your neck stand up, unless you've misjudged a corner that is.
But what happens to Tesla once EVs are everywhere, what will make a Tesla, a Tesla? They have pushed the envelope tech-wise and have embarrassed the legacy car makers, but take away the current wow factor and what else is left? Not enough to make them desirable in my opinion once EVs by their prestige contemporaries hit the market. However, maybe at that stage they will have moved the game on again!
But what happens to Tesla once EVs are everywhere, what will make a Tesla, a Tesla? They have pushed the envelope tech-wise and have embarrassed the legacy car makers, but take away the current wow factor and what else is left? Not enough to make them desirable in my opinion once EVs by their prestige contemporaries hit the market. However, maybe at that stage they will have moved the game on again!
I love how people on here bleat on about how little straight-line performance matters; it's about the noise, the handling, the feel.... then this comes along and people are fawning over it! 
It's basically the anti-thesis of what people supposedly say what matters. Tesla have no background in building a driver's car. It's weight and 4WD will make it pretty impossible to be one.
So make your mind up people, do you actually want (i.e. willing to buy) a proper sports car, or do you want pub bragging rights? Because if it's just about a one trick pony with the biggest electric motor, then you will be happy bunny - that'll be easy.
For me, it looks like a Hot Wheels car or something advertisers use because they haven't paid for naming rights. It looks pretty good, but I'm not going to wet my pants just because it's new. For me, the current Teslas make sense - I'd rather have all-round capability given it isn't going to entertain me.
It's basically the anti-thesis of what people supposedly say what matters. Tesla have no background in building a driver's car. It's weight and 4WD will make it pretty impossible to be one.
So make your mind up people, do you actually want (i.e. willing to buy) a proper sports car, or do you want pub bragging rights? Because if it's just about a one trick pony with the biggest electric motor, then you will be happy bunny - that'll be easy.
For me, it looks like a Hot Wheels car or something advertisers use because they haven't paid for naming rights. It looks pretty good, but I'm not going to wet my pants just because it's new. For me, the current Teslas make sense - I'd rather have all-round capability given it isn't going to entertain me.
Musk has already achieved his initial goal which was to demonstrate that electric cars were viable.
He has now just completely and utterly humiliated the engineers at Porsche (VW), Ferrari, Bugatti (VW), McLaren, Lamborghini (VW) whoever. Brands that existed purely for the purpose of seting new boundaries, of pushing the envelope, of breaking records, of acheiving headline speeds, of winning top trumps, all trumped in one move. A small start up just slapped them about the place. They all look a bit absurd today.
He has now just completely and utterly humiliated the engineers at Porsche (VW), Ferrari, Bugatti (VW), McLaren, Lamborghini (VW) whoever. Brands that existed purely for the purpose of seting new boundaries, of pushing the envelope, of breaking records, of acheiving headline speeds, of winning top trumps, all trumped in one move. A small start up just slapped them about the place. They all look a bit absurd today.
Nanook said:
rockin said:
Yup, derivative styling and overpriced. I don't think the makers of real cars have anything to worry about from this one.
Overpriced?$200,000 for a car that runs quarters in the 8s, does 100mph in under 5 seconds.
Overpriced?
Makers of real cars?
Oh, I get it, you're at it!
t.Other manufacturers are years away from anything vaguely close to this, if it comes to fruition.
RumbleOfThunder said:
Apple is the most valuable company in the world and will be the first in history to break through the $1tn barrier. You being sour because their products are popular doesn't make the brand any less remarkable.
As a brand and marketing exercise, yes.I was talking Elon and Jobs.
ZesPak said:
RumbleOfThunder said:
Apple is the most valuable company in the world and will be the first in history to break through the $1tn barrier. You being sour because their products are popular doesn't make the brand any less remarkable.
As a brand and marketing exercise, yes.I was talking Elon and Jobs.
WCZ said:
insane performance.
reminds me of the guy on youtube who goes to street drag races in his stripped out Tesla and demolishes most things, the community hates him and sometimes he has rednecks start fights with him
The Tesla Racing Channel? He does post most of the positive stuff, haven't seen too much negatives tbh.reminds me of the guy on youtube who goes to street drag races in his stripped out Tesla and demolishes most things, the community hates him and sometimes he has rednecks start fights with him
ZesPak said:
As for the Apple/Steve Jobs comparison. No, just no. Elon is on another level than that hippie.
The PH article Steve Jobs comparison appears to be a reference to "one more thing" stage showmanship.If you have ever watched both Jobs and Musk on stage, there's no comparison. Jobs was far more assured and accomplished on stage than Musk has ever been.
But I suspect you aren't referring to the original piece, but some other Musk / Jobs comparison.
Fast Bug said:
Wouldn't Tesla be better off getting the Model 3 out the door and resolving build quality issues first?
Probably but that is what an older more mature manufacturer would do. This is a bit like the wild wild west and gold digging, they have an electric sieving pan 
I think it is very good what they are doing, they are making electric cars sexy, and although they are mainly a one trick pony on acceleration it is something that amazes people. Show your mates, cheap to run ( if not buy) shut down that hot hatch on the dual carriageway ...
My one concern is that if all car manufacturers go electric then Tesla have not got any brand image. I saw my first X model yesterday and it could have been any SUV, same for the 3 and P series, they need to get a design, at the moment they are very fast white goods. I am sure they will if they have a long history.
Ironically the truck is the most stand out thing design wise. I still would have a big Mack ( did I just say that? ) with two huge exhausts or the oil tanker out of Duel. Now that's a truck....
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