RE: Tesla Roadster: 'Quickest car in the world'

[RobDickinson]

Airbus and Boeing are regularly years late with aircraft development..

[anonymous-user]

RobDickinson said:

They are a couple of months late I'm ramping up with an order book that stretches years into the future.

Orders have gone up not down. People ordering understand Tesla a lot more than some on the thread.

Am i reading this correctly.

You are part of the Tesla sales department or a dealer?

[jjwilde]

suffolk009 said:

I hadn't really appreciated the numbers involved. A quick google reveals that Tesla have taken around 500,000 deposits for the Model 3 and have so far delivered 220 cars.

That's frankly unbelievable incompetence on their part.

Nah, they never said they would ship fast, they said it would take 2 years, people in the UK are in the 2019 zone.

It's December we need to watch - they need to ship towards 5000 to be back on course. I don't doubt they will ship several thousand but 5000 seems a bit far out at the moment.

[8V085]

Nanook said:

8V085 said:

How much behind schedule is Airbus with A350? Plus I bet Airbus don't claim (as an excuse) that they aren't an aircraft building company despite their main business being building planes.

Answering a question with a question means you don't have an answer.

Yeah, Tesla are behind. Hardly the first time that's happened to a car maker, or any sort of manufacturing company, is it?

Just because you don't like the question doesn't mean it's not valid. This isn't any sort of manufacturing company, it's a company that deals with building cars claiming that it's not a car building company. It's a company that likes to overpromise and underdeliver, each time balancing on the verge of going under. This time the scale is magnitudes greater than all previous attempts combined, and at this burn rate sweet talking won't do much even if the sheep are willing to keep listening to it. I like their ideas but there's this snake oil, Enron kind of whiff that - since I'm not a sheep - I can't ignore.

[anonymous-user]

RumbleOfThunder said:

boxerTen said:

fblm said:

RumbleOfThunder said:

Just call them Tesla. It is their name after all and it's only one additional letter.

Well I was talking about their shares and it is the name of their shares after all and it is only one less letter so, no.

Actually you were talking about the company so use Tesla, just like you used 'Apple' and 'Microsoft' not AAPL and MSFT. When talking about the ticker the shares trade under then TSLA - and if they are dual listed prefix with the exchange, e.g. NASDAQ:TSLA.

What he said.

Whatever

[RobDickinson]

They won't hit 5k I'm December.

They switch over to 2018 vin numbers on Dec 22, recently reserved about 2000 new 2017 vins.

No one who ordered a model 3 expected it I'm 2017. I've not seen any one who has ordered one disappointed as yet. And yes reservations have increased..

[98elise]

suffolk009 said:

fblm said:

Apple only survived the mid 90's because they were rescued by Microsoft. No one should doubt TSLA will survive, it's how much they need to dilute shareholders along the way to do so. Model 3 doesn't need to ship, it needs to ship in BIG numbers, soon, to avoid another capital raise. I really hope it makes it over the hump but to dismiss the danger is not rational.

I hadn't really appreciated the numbers involved. A quick google reveals that Tesla have taken around 500,000 deposits for the Model 3 and have so far delivered 220 cars.

That's frankly unbelievable incompetence on their part.

Why? They took those orders within months of the first reveal (the majority in the first few days). At some point that will have delivered 100 cars, 200cars, 1000 cars etc. That's just a fact.

Certainly production should have ramped up by now, but I think it's clear that they have not actually started proper production yet. The initial handover was just a PR stunt, and the reality is that they have missed the deadline for producing the car in volume.

[London424]

98elise said:

suffolk009 said:

fblm said:

Apple only survived the mid 90's because they were rescued by Microsoft. No one should doubt TSLA will survive, it's how much they need to dilute shareholders along the way to do so. Model 3 doesn't need to ship, it needs to ship in BIG numbers, soon, to avoid another capital raise. I really hope it makes it over the hump but to dismiss the danger is not rational.

I hadn't really appreciated the numbers involved. A quick google reveals that Tesla have taken around 500,000 deposits for the Model 3 and have so far delivered 220 cars.

That's frankly unbelievable incompetence on their part.

Why? They took those orders within months of the first reveal (the majority in the first few days). At some point that will have delivered 100 cars, 200cars, 1000 cars etc. That's just a fact.

Certainly production should have ramped up by now, but I think it's clear that they have not actually started proper production yet. The initial handover was just a PR stunt, and the reality is that they have missed the deadline for producing the car in volume.

Whilst also making and shipping 100,000 of their other models.

[otolith]

RobDickinson said:

They won't hit 5k I'm December.

They switch over to 2018 vin numbers on Dec 22, recently reserved about 2000 new 2017 vins.

No one who ordered a model 3 expected it I'm 2017. I've not seen any one who has ordered one disappointed as yet. And yes reservations have increased..

I think you need to take your spellchecker outside and either beat it into submission or shoot it!

[RobDickinson]

phone typing... it does odd things

[anonymous-user]

jsf said:

RobDickinson said:

They are a couple of months late I'm ramping up with an order book that stretches years into the future.

Orders have gone up not down. People ordering understand Tesla a lot more than some on the thread.

Am i reading this correctly.

You are part of the Tesla sales department or a dealer?

[Welshbeef]

RobDickinson said:

phone typing... it does odd things

I’m hyper guilty of that - note there are a few spelling and grammar PH police on here who hold you to task on it. Some even ask can you read it again or have you been drinking (at 9am!) they think it’s funny and assume other readers or posters will find it a cool response.

[otolith]

RobDickinson said:

phone typing... it does odd things

Indeed. I would advise giving the vicious bd a damn good thrashing.

[8V085]

RobDickinson said:

phone typing... it does odd things

RobD after one of his Tesla customers run over a group of pedestrians during an assisted test drive said:

Autopilot... it does odd things

PS There's no excuse for laziness, autocorrect errors can still be fixed before you hit post.

[RobDickinson]

jsf said:

jsf said:

RobDickinson said:

They are a couple of months late I'm ramping up with an order book that stretches years into the future.

Orders have gone up not down. People ordering understand Tesla a lot more than some on the thread.

Am i reading this correctly.

You are part of the Tesla sales department or a dealer?

yeah fking what? whats wrong with what i have stated?

[otolith]

If you had noticed the systematic spellcheck error, you’d realise that Rob didn’t say he was a Tesla dealer.

I reckon safety critical vehicle control systems are probably a tiny weeny bit more rigorously engineered that spellcheckers. Although I came across some really dodgy javascript the other day, so it’s probably safe to assume our autopilot, air traffic control and nuclear power systems are all about to go tits up, and I can’t drive my car in case the ABS software was hacked together in a poncey coffee shop by a hipster with a vestigial knowledge of JQuery.

[anonymous-user]

RobDickinson said:

jsf said:

jsf said:

RobDickinson said:

They are a couple of months late I'm ramping up with an order book that stretches years into the future.

Orders have gone up not down. People ordering understand Tesla a lot more than some on the thread.

Am i reading this correctly.

You are part of the Tesla sales department or a dealer?

yeah fking what? whats wrong with what i have stated?

Nice attitude.

Nothing wrong with what you wrote.

You havnt answered my question yet though.

[RobDickinson]

No no connection with tesla at all, dont own one, unlikely to for several years at least.

I've been in a few though...

[anonymous-user]

RobDickinson said:

No no connection with tesla at all, dont own one, unlikely to for several years at least.

I've been in a few though...

Then i don't understand your comment re ramping up your order book?

[RobDickinson]

I'm ---> in

My phone autocorreded it

I'm doesnt make sense in that location at all.