Have I been given a CCJ? Dartford Crossing.

Have I been given a CCJ? Dartford Crossing.

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sc0tt

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18,041 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Story is as follows.

I have auto pay on my dart charge account. On the 13/05/17 I made a dart charge crossing. My account went 67p into arrears. I topped up 1 day too late.

I had moved and my car was registered to the incorrect address (this has now been rectified). As such, 3 notices were sent to my old address to pay a fine.

My details have been passed to Marstons high court enforcement and the total repayable is £190.50.

The details of address on my dartford charge account are correct.

Letter below. I have received no correspondence from a court, this is my first letter and I have made full payment. But I contacted the dartford crossing people and they have advised me to fill out 2 forms. TE7 and a TE9, both linked below. These look like court papers. I've checked my credit report and I don't have any CCJ's listed but I don't know how long such a thing would take to appear.


https://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/...
http://formfinder.hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/t...

Thank you in advance.


anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Fill in the forms. There is a court process on foot, but if you satisfy the court that you did not receive the initial penalty notice, you will have a chance to pay the penalty and bring the matter to a close.

sc0tt

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Saturday 18th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
Fill in the forms. There is a court process on foot, but if you satisfy the court that you did not receive the initial penalty notice, you will have a chance to pay the penalty and bring the matter to a close.
I have paid the £190.50

The highways agency said that the debt was passed to Marstons. Unsure if they have gone through the court.

sc0tt

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18,041 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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I should add this letter isn't from a court etc. Just from Marstons.

sc0tt

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Saturday 18th November 2017
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sc0tt said:
I should add this letter isn't from a court etc. Just from Marstons.
Happy to fill out forms, highways agency fella said that I shouldn’t worry but it is easy enough for him to say.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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The court issued a warrant and Marstons is the firm enforcing the warrant. If you have paid, nothing else should happen. If you want to go back and challenge the penalty or just pay the penalty, but not extra charges, fill in the forms.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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The procedure is set out here -

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/...

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 18th November 13:07

dave_s13

13,814 posts

269 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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You've been charged £190 for going into arrears by 67pence??

fk me that's harsh.

sc0tt

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18,041 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Just read this...

it is a Dart Charge, then it probably won't be a CCJ, but a Notice of Enforcement that has gone through Northampton Traffic Enforcement Centre. It wont be on your credit file, but it will be enough for Marstons/JBW?whyte & Co etc to levy on - ie, taking your car or goods.

You will need to complete a TE3 and/or TE7 form to ask the court to review the decision, and explain why you are repsonding late - if you have moved house and they are still using your old address, this is normally a valid reason for having it reversed. It doesn't cancel the ticket, just reset the process. Fill it out, take it to your local court for countersigning, and email it to tec.bulkcentre@hmcts.gsi.gov.uk

If it is not Dart and for say a double yellow or box junction, you may need a PE3 & PE7, similar process, different forms.

You can download the forms form here - https://hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/HMCTS/FormF...

sc0tt

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18,041 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
So I haven't been given a CCJ?

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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No, you haven't.

sc0tt

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Saturday 18th November 2017
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Breadvan72 said:
No, you haven't.
Phew, thank you sir. I struggled to read.

I'm assuming if I hadn't paid, then it would have done. So now I need to fill out the forms to try and reclaim the fees.

sc0tt

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Saturday 18th November 2017
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dave_s13 said:
You've been charged £190 for going into arrears by 67pence??

fk me that's harsh.
Indeed.

hairyben

8,516 posts

183 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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dave_s13 said:
You've been charged £190 for going into arrears by 67pence??

fk me that's harsh.
It'll be like parking tickets where it just keeps escalating if you don't pay and the system is basically run like a criminal racket - my last camden parking ticket I received a £127 demand in the post - sent a cheque with a letter asking for details of how the fine was incurred, both of which were returned by post, only for a £200 demand to be issued, which when I phoned up to ask what was going on to be told it'd be increased to £400 if I didnt pay right away.

The whole create-a-pointless-account then keep it topped up rather than card details and pay as you go is designed to snare people.

sc0tt

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18,041 posts

201 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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It is paid now so I’ll fill in the forms and attempt to get some money back.

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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sc0tt said:
dave_s13 said:
You've been charged £190 for going into arrears by 67pence??

fk me that's harsh.
Indeed.
Welcome to modern England...

mickmcpaddy

1,445 posts

105 months

Saturday 18th November 2017
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hairyben said:
dave_s13 said:
You've been charged £190 for going into arrears by 67pence??

fk me that's harsh.
It'll be like parking tickets where it just keeps escalating if you don't pay and the system is basically run like a criminal racket - my last camden parking ticket I received a £127 demand in the post - sent a cheque with a letter asking for details of how the fine was incurred, both of which were returned by post, only for a £200 demand to be issued, which when I phoned up to ask what was going on to be told it'd be increased to £400 if I didnt pay right away.

The whole create-a-pointless-account then keep it topped up rather than card details and pay as you go is designed to snare people.
Course it is, just like private parking tickets they make naff all if people abide by the rules. However I have just renewed my Amazon Prime membership and I was looking back at what I ordered over the last 12 months. I reckon I have saved about £600 or more by not trudging round town centres looking for stuff, that means £600 less into the local economy instead going to a company that pays naff all tax, no fuel used by me to get there, no car parking costs and certainly no parking tickets or speeding fines - not sure how that will work out for the councils in the long run when more and more people buy stuff on-line.

hutchst

3,700 posts

96 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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They will be perfectly OK as long as you pay your keyboard tax.

lawrencec

199 posts

192 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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I have had a few of these some I have left

You will not get a CCJ from this and it will not affect your credit file it says it in the paper work on the tfl website

I wouldn’t of paid that it it’s extortion how can a debt of 67p end up costing that it’s not right!

Ive had the goons from marston pay a visit there isn’t much they can do it is all scare tactics

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 19th November 2017
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lawrencec said:
I have had a few of these some I have left

You will not get a CCJ from this and it will not affect your credit file it says it in the paper work on the tfl website

I wouldn’t of paid that it it’s extortion how can a debt of 67p end up costing that it’s not right!

Ive had the goons from marston pay a visit there isn’t much they can do it is all scare tactics

If you don't respond to notifications you incur costs for the Company trying to recover what you owe them. Not hard to see how those costs can escalate.

No one to blame here but the OP. The Dartford crossing system is as good as it gets. By his own admission the OP screwed up with his admin