Is keyless entry worth speccing?
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Krikkit said:
dirty doug said:
craigjm said:
If you have ever had a car with it you will know that the above long winded scenario can’t happen because if you drove off and the key fell off the roof it would go out of range and the car would stop. It doesn’t just need the key in Range to start it. It needs the key in Range ALL the time. A second point is that it wouldn’t let them be locked in the boot either. If you put them in the boot and shut it then it reopens the boot so you can’t lock your keys in the boot. Do your research before creating scare stories.
No scare story I'm afraid. It happened some time back - I posted on here in the East Anglia forum hoping someone found the keys. I did find the keys the next day in a thousand pieces.The car was a Nissan QQ 2015.
The car doesn't stop when the engine is running & the key goes out of range.
BUT it does sound a warning & flashes on the dash that the keys are gone.
If you stall it at the lights in rush hour somewhere down the road, you will make the local news
Hol said:
But, the wife now has a loaded up Kia Sportage AWD thingy (she got stranded in the snow in the SLK ) and that has it as standard.
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Being a KIA, nobody is ever going to nick it.
But, I still wouldn't want it on a sports car.
She's going to be very disappointed the first time we have proper snow and the Kia also gets stuck.... At
Being a KIA, nobody is ever going to nick it.
But, I still wouldn't want it on a sports car.
craigjm said:
If you have ever had a car with it you will know that the above long winded scenario can’t happen because if you drove off and the key fell off the roof it would go out of range and the car would stop. It doesn’t just need the key in Range to start it. It needs the key in Range ALL the time..
No it wouldn't it would carry on running until it was turned off... Then it wouldn't restart, as the key would no longer be in range - It would even continue to restart if the stop/start activated.It wouldn't stop, because that could be potentially very dangerous... And there is legislation that prevents the cars from just stopping because the key is out of range for just this reason.
So maybe you should do your research before rubbishing other people's accounts of problems they have had with their cars.
this is the exact reason why ECall (GLONAS) when it becomes mandatory for all new types next year won't allow remote disabling of vehicles that have been stolen, even though it potentially has the ability to do so.
Used to like it, but the range it works from seems to have completely dropped off meaning I quite often get 2 little beeps when I try and lock it using the button on the door handle. I then have to remember which pocket the key is in as it's quite small and either take it out of my pocket or do a funny little move, almost like I'm 'waist bumping' the car as a way of saying goodbye to it as I lock it.
Changed the batteries to no avail.
Loved it when it worked properly all the time, car key went into pocket in the morning and stayed there until I got home.
Changed the batteries to no avail.
Loved it when it worked properly all the time, car key went into pocket in the morning and stayed there until I got home.
I must be such a dinosaur.
I walk up to my car, get the fob into my hand and unlock it by pressing a button (I can feel which is the unlock button).
And then... I place the key in the ignition and turn it to start the engine!!!
Holy s
t!!!!
I'm so 1990's
But I wouldn't have it any other way
I walk up to my car, get the fob into my hand and unlock it by pressing a button (I can feel which is the unlock button).
And then... I place the key in the ignition and turn it to start the engine!!!
Holy s
t!!!!I'm so 1990's
But I wouldn't have it any other way
I like it because my key lives in my pocket, but it's completely useless unless you have both keyless entry and keyless start. Not had an issue with locking the car because it requires touching the lock sensor to lock (which also folds the mirrors, so very obvious if you've not done it). Also the unlock sensor is disabled for a couple of seconds after locking, so you can lock the car and pull the handle to check it has locked.
My Fiat has it, came as part of the standard spec and I thought "Meh, can't see that being much use".
One year later and yeah, it's great. The only downside is (as I mentioned right at the beginning of the "Faffing" thread) I can be out of the car and far enough away from it that Mrs Dawg often finds herself locked in. Still, that's better than when we go somewhere in the Alfa when I end up stood in the road with the key in the door waiting for her to get out so I can lock up after her.
Car has a start button so the key stays in my pocket.
One year later and yeah, it's great. The only downside is (as I mentioned right at the beginning of the "Faffing" thread) I can be out of the car and far enough away from it that Mrs Dawg often finds herself locked in. Still, that's better than when we go somewhere in the Alfa when I end up stood in the road with the key in the door waiting for her to get out so I can lock up after her.
Car has a start button so the key stays in my pocket.
Alex said:
My last two cars have had it as standard. It's convenient, but I wouldn't pay extra for it.
This.. it’s fine, nobody will nick the car where I live, key stays in the pocket so I never even think about it. They are no big deal. Had them for about 5 years now and like wind up windows, when you see keys you just think ‘how quaint’... like in my wife’s car!Still, some in here think people need a slap for having them... tut. Get a grip, in 10 years you think cars will have keys?
People used to give me a hard time for owning a mobile phone. Nuff said.
Waste of money IMHO. Unfortunately with some cars/specs, you don't get much choice.
Most of them require you to put some form of 'key' somewhere, so it either rattles around the console, or gets left in a coat pocket. What was wrong with a key-slot?
They introduce yet another answer to a question that hasn't been asked. Some people think they're great, until they swap drivers (ie a drop-off at a station or airport); person without the 'key' drives car off, stops and turns engine off somewhere other than where the spare key is. That was never a problem when you needed the key in the ignition.
Others have left a car unused for a while, only to find out that the 'key' battery is flat and the car is now effectively immobile because the keyless key has been 'talking' to the car in the interim. MBenz suffered from this but now it ('key') can be 'put to sleep' under such circumstances. Yet again, another thing to remember to do which wasn't a problem before.
As with all this 'stuff', it's great whilst it works but is potentially one more thing to cause issues.
Do I have it - yes, on some. Do I like it - no.
Most of them require you to put some form of 'key' somewhere, so it either rattles around the console, or gets left in a coat pocket. What was wrong with a key-slot?
They introduce yet another answer to a question that hasn't been asked. Some people think they're great, until they swap drivers (ie a drop-off at a station or airport); person without the 'key' drives car off, stops and turns engine off somewhere other than where the spare key is. That was never a problem when you needed the key in the ignition.
Others have left a car unused for a while, only to find out that the 'key' battery is flat and the car is now effectively immobile because the keyless key has been 'talking' to the car in the interim. MBenz suffered from this but now it ('key') can be 'put to sleep' under such circumstances. Yet again, another thing to remember to do which wasn't a problem before.
As with all this 'stuff', it's great whilst it works but is potentially one more thing to cause issues.
Do I have it - yes, on some. Do I like it - no.
Superhoop said:
craigjm said:
If you have ever had a car with it you will know that the above long winded scenario can’t happen because if you drove off and the key fell off the roof it would go out of range and the car would stop. It doesn’t just need the key in Range to start it. It needs the key in Range ALL the time..
No it wouldn't it would carry on running until it was turned off... Then it wouldn't restart, as the key would no longer be in range - It would even continue to restart if the stop/start activated.It wouldn't stop, because that could be potentially very dangerous... And there is legislation that prevents the cars from just stopping because the key is out of range for just this reason.
So maybe you should do your research before rubbishing other people's accounts of problems they have had with their cars.
this is the exact reason why ECall (GLONAS) when it becomes mandatory for all new types next year won't allow remote disabling of vehicles that have been stolen, even though it potentially has the ability to do so.
ambuletz said:
look at it this way..
would you rather spend £245 on keyless entry or £245 on whisky?
I’d spend money on both. What’s your point?would you rather spend £245 on keyless entry or £245 on whisky?
If you are buying a low spec car, then of course £245 will be an issue. £245 was more than the value of my first three cars, so keyless entry would have been a joke. But if you are spending big money on a car (that will not be stolen, I should add ~ no car has ever been stolen from my postcode) why not enjoy the convinience, the tech, and the resale value of a decent spec car! £650 for decent paint ffs!
I remember having a similar conversation 20 years ago on PH about electric windows... waste of money, something else to go wrong... etc. Now look at how many have them.
Edited by GetCarter on Monday 20th November 18:29
I used wife's car, keys fell out of my pocked down the side of the seat. Turned car off got out. Wife goes out in car, gets in with what she thought where the keys in her handbag.
Frantic phone call shes at the tube car park, car keeps beeping when she tries to lock it which means the key is inside. She thought the key was in her handbag, starts panicing and can't leave the car. After some trial and error realises keys must be in the car, finds them.
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Frantic phone call shes at the tube car park, car keeps beeping when she tries to lock it which means the key is inside. She thought the key was in her handbag, starts panicing and can't leave the car. After some trial and error realises keys must be in the car, finds them.
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We had it on our Swift Sport but I wasn't keen.
For me alone it was fine.
Keep key in pocket, approach car pull handle and get in; press button to start.
Getting out the car shut the door & press the little button on the handle to lock.
When my missus was driving;
Keys somewhere in the bottom of her handbag, pull door handle etc all works fine.
Get home, exit car and press little button on the handle to lock.
Stand on the driveway in pouring down rain whilst she rummages in her bag to find the key bunch.
Was a right pain.
For me alone it was fine.
Keep key in pocket, approach car pull handle and get in; press button to start.
Getting out the car shut the door & press the little button on the handle to lock.
When my missus was driving;
Keys somewhere in the bottom of her handbag, pull door handle etc all works fine.
Get home, exit car and press little button on the handle to lock.
Stand on the driveway in pouring down rain whilst she rummages in her bag to find the key bunch.
Was a right pain.
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