Dome cameras on a wall

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mickmcpaddy

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Monday 20th November 2017
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Today I was supposed to fit some customer supplied IP dome cameras on a house and for the life of me couldn't work out how to adjust the lens for wall mounting. The cameras are the HighWatch version of Hikvision, Not too sure of the model. I thought all cameras had 3 axis adjustment.

Admittedly I've not done much with IP cameras but all the analogue dome cameras I've fitted you just unscrewed the front half of the dome and you could twist the camera pretty much where you wanted it.

Am I right in thinking these HighWatch cameras are the older outdated Hikvision ones?

Another thing to add, the cable from the camera come out the middle rear of the camera and it wont sit flat to the wall, its rocking on the cable, I think they are just for soffit or ceiling mounting, so its either get different ones or get a wall mount bracket.


Edited by mickmcpaddy on Monday 20th November 18:21

ghost83

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189 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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I've found with some cameras if you adjust the ring where the camera sits it's moveable but then when you screw it down it stays where you've put it, as for the wire coming through the back can a hole not be drilled through the wall for the wire to come straight inside or are you mounting the wires in conduit on a outside wall?


FurtiveFreddy

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236 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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Without knowing the exact model, it's difficult to say.

mickmcpaddy

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Monday 20th November 2017
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ghost83 said:
I've found with some cameras if you adjust the ring where the camera sits it's moveable but then when you screw it down it stays where you've put it, as for the wire coming through the back can a hole not be drilled through the wall for the wire to come straight inside or are you mounting the wires in conduit on a outside wall?
The camera is sitting on a brick wall, a piece of cat 5 comes out through the bricks, I was hoping to crimp a cat 5 plug on the end and plug it into the camera and screw it to the wall. I think now if he keeps the cameras it needs a wiska or some other adaptable box next to it for the connection, so an indent will nave to be drilled into the brick for the bend of the cable.

mickmcpaddy

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Monday 20th November 2017
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It looks similar to this inside :-



The camera moves in the slot ok, it also twists round the base ok but it needs the camera to swivel 90 deg on its central axis once its pointing in the right direction, otherwise the image will be sideways, I think?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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234 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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If you fit domes for a living I'm sure you'll know this...

....but domes perpendicular the wall (rather than say under a soffit) are rubbish in the rain in the dark. The IRs flare up so much all you see is white.


mickmcpaddy

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Monday 20th November 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
If you fit domes for a living I'm sure you'll know this...

....but domes perpendicular the wall (rather than say under a soffit) are rubbish in the rain in the dark. The IRs flare up so much all you see is white.
I've heard about the problems with rain on dome cameras mounted on walls but if you use other types like bullet cameras they can be pushed out of the way easily, even if you put an unsightly cage round them you just need a stick through the cage to move them.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Monday 20th November 2017
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mickmcpaddy said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
If you fit domes for a living I'm sure you'll know this...

....but domes perpendicular the wall (rather than say under a soffit) are rubbish in the rain in the dark. The IRs flare up so much all you see is white.
I've heard about the problems with rain on dome cameras mounted on walls but if you use other types like bullet cameras they can be pushed out of the way easily, even if you put an unsightly cage round them you just need a stick through the cage to move them.
I should have added..I'm no expert. It's just I had a new CCTV system installed & we had to take out all the perpendicular mounted IR mini domes & replace with bullets.



smckeown

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244 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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The software flips the image if required, hence it swivels only a small amount

dmsims

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266 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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smckeown said:
The software flips the image if required, hence it swivels only a small amount
and there is the answer!

mickmcpaddy

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Monday 20th November 2017
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dmsims said:
smckeown said:
The software flips the image if required, hence it swivels only a small amount
and there is the answer!
hopefully.

OldGermanHeaps

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177 months

Monday 20th November 2017
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The pcb holder part also rotates around 350 degrees, then you angle the gimbal then you can correct any small skew with the small amount of rotation available at the lens end.
Those ones are ste at night and in the rain, turrets are several orders of magnitude better. If they come up close to the camera to move it the camera has done its job you will have a nice close up of their face.

Shiv_P

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2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Tuesday 21st November 2017
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This is the image we got from the perpendicular mini dome in the dark in the rain






2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Tuesday 21st November 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
This is the image we got from the perpendicular mini dome in the dark in the rain

And with improved camera


Spare tyre

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Tuesday 21st November 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
This is the image we got from the perpendicular mini dome in the dark in the rain

And with improved camera

Details of the improved camera would be most appreciated

Thankyou

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Tuesday 21st November 2017
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Spare tyre said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
This is the image we got from the perpendicular mini dome in the dark in the rain

And with improved camera

Details of the improved camera would be most appreciated

Thankyou
It was a Hik-Vision bullet camera, that's as much as I know!

worsy

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174 months

Tuesday 21st November 2017
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You'll possibly need this https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/19686-hikv...

I'm running turret Hikvision cameras as they don't suffer from the rain affected images.


2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Tuesday 21st November 2017
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worsy said:
You'll possibly need this https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/19686-hikv...

I'm running turret Hikvision cameras as they don't suffer from the rain affected images.
That's deffo help. They just don't like to be mounted front on.

mickmcpaddy

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Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
worsy said:
You'll possibly need this https://www.broadbandbuyer.com/products/19686-hikv...

I'm running turret Hikvision cameras as they don't suffer from the rain affected images.
That's deffo help. They just don't like to be mounted front on.
The blokes ordered some, should be here tomorrow.