RE: Aston Martin Vantage: Lift off

RE: Aston Martin Vantage: Lift off

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ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Transport the GTE grill (it doesn't appear to have the sticky out lippy thing) on to the road car... job done.... Visually it needed to be very different to the old Vantage yet still recognisable... styling cues.... As others have said, the '05 car is a hard act to follow, one of the prettiest cars ever made, keeping all the AM values in place.....

I think they've done a good job, although I still find the door/sill thing odd, looks like it's been jacked up in the wrong place and has bent the car in the middle... I did the configurator thing yesterday and it looked stunning... for me, with the front grill fixed (see above) and in the right colour it's a complete winner.... just need to get my hands on one and give it a good ragging biggrin (private road or on track of course)....

Oh, and I see prices of early V8V's have started to soar.....

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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pbe624 said:
was waiting for some photoshop front end.... this is the one in the AM section that gets more praise than the stick on launch version...
A half way house between the two would be great along the lines of the DB10

noble12345

362 posts

216 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Aes87 said:
....The AMG GT is a much more elegant and well resolved package...
Lmao, yeah if i took a ton of drugs it might be elegant, the AMG GT front end looks like a Hills Have Eyes baby, whats elegant about that catfish faced, wonky eyed runt? laugh


DoctorX

7,266 posts

167 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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noble12345 said:
Lmao, yeah if i took a ton of drugs it might be elegant, the AMG GT front end looks like a Hills Have Eyes baby, whats elegant about that catfish faced, wonky eyed runt? laugh
hehe Agreed. Impressive car, buy my god it’s gopping at the front.

Grantstown

967 posts

87 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Richie C said:
Brilliant!

swisstoni

16,949 posts

279 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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MonkeyMatt said:
pbe624 said:
was waiting for some photoshop front end.... this is the one in the AM section that gets more praise than the stick on launch version...
A half way house between the two would be great along the lines of the DB10
No. It really wouldn’t.

ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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In today's world of bloated tat, fugly hybrid's, and electric marvels, nothing new, ever, will look this beautiful (or small) again..... (it's the one in the middle)

seastorm

520 posts

202 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Richie C said:
Genius. I'll never unsee that. Kind of like the BMW i8 / Porsche out back thing.

DoctorX

7,266 posts

167 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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ChilliWhizz said:
In today's world of bloated tat, fugly hybrid's, and electric marvels, nothing new, ever, will look this beautiful (or small) again..... (it's the one in the middle)
cloud9 perfection.

Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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The first year of production has now sold out. It seems the predictions of Aston Martin's demise are premature.

dazwalsh

6,095 posts

141 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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A day later and the nose is growing on me more and more, especially as people photoshop it and fanny about with it (unsuccessfully)

Venturist

3,472 posts

195 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Cold said:
The first year of production has now sold out. It seems the predictions of Aston Martin's demise are premature.
I feel happier and happier that I’m the very first on the list at my dealership biggrin

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Cold said:
The first year of production has now sold out. It seems the predictions of Aston Martin's demise are premature.
Did anyone expect otherwise?

Mark and George

23 posts

164 months

Wednesday 22nd November 2017
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Ok the new Vantage looks slick, however, that front! Looks like something is missing. Gaping. I can see the Vulcan influence, but the front is a disappointment to me as Astons have always had beautiful styling. Plus the headlamps look too small. Inside, the centre console looks very similar to that of the AMG GT. Need to see the actual car however the model it replaces looks far prettier - certainly from the front! I hope they haven't made a big mistake with the styling.

codieskid

480 posts

202 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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I've fixed the problem smile.



After spending a few hours looking at the high res press images and dissecting the design, I think fundamentally the car is very nice. I don't mind the back of the car at all and overall the shape is clean, taught and modern. But I just can't get past the headlamp design and the mesh grill. Mesh always looks cheap and the grill surround is just too pronounced for my liking. I think if they could have evolved the shape of the headlamps from the old Vantage and dumbed down the mesh grill or re-imagined the old cars grill strakes then I'd honestly be placing a deposit.

Trev

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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RobDickinson said:
Cold said:
The first year of production has now sold out. It seems the predictions of Aston Martin's demise are premature.
Did anyone expect otherwise?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/11/22/ast...

Seem to be in rude health now by their standards...

HighwayStar

4,248 posts

144 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Manufacturers have a difficult time... Merc, BMW, Audi, Jag, Porsche... They unveil a new model and oh no, it looks like the last model, they all look the same. Then they have a design shift. Oh no, that's awful, doesn't look like a Jag/Merc or whatever... They've deserted their heritage. It will never sell.
For what, years PHers have been saying Astons all look the same, DB11 comes out looks different and Aston have blown it. Now the Vantage is out and oh dear, it's the beginning of the end. They won't sell but... The first year of production has now sold out!!!

Brits don't like change. PHers think they do but they don't. Change has to be forced on most people. Some sales will be lost, some potential customers will take their ball and go elsewhere. New customers will be attracted too. A few may think they know better but Aston have clearly proved them wrong.

Quickmoose

4,488 posts

123 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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HighwayStar said:
Manufacturers have a difficult time... Merc, BMW, Audi, Jag, Porsche... They unveil a new model and oh no, it looks like the last model, they all look the same. Then they have a design shift. Oh no, that's awful, doesn't look like a Jag/Merc or whatever... They've deserted their heritage. It will never sell.
For what, years PHers have been saying Astons all look the same, DB11 comes out looks different and Aston have blown it. Now the Vantage is out and oh dear, it's the beginning of the end. They won't sell but... The first year of production has now sold out!!!

Brits don't like change. PHers think they do but they don't. Change has to be forced on most people. Some sales will be lost, some potential customers will take their ball and go elsewhere. New customers will be attracted too. A few may think they know better but Aston have clearly proved them wrong.
I don't think any marque at this level proves anyone wrong.
Someone who wants a brand new Aston, is going to buy a brand new Aston....
But yes they do have a hard time..
For me if you hit a sweet spot you should/could stick with it ...and in the case of the DB9 aesthetic stick with for longer

j4r4lly

595 posts

135 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Syndrome280 said:
I want to like it, but I can't.

One of the things I loved about the original V8V was the simple classic good looks of it, particularly pre-2010 before they started adding strange side skirts.
I think AM should stick to the style and offerings of what it is known for, the (and I use this term in context of AM) normal models have always been drop dead gorgeous inside and out in a luxurious refined classical way but with a generous dollop of sporty ability unlike Bentley or RR, but if you want vents, diffusers, carbon fibre etc you opt for a lairy model, like a DBS.

If the bog standard (again, context) models look as fussy as this I think AM has forgotten itself, I realise as times change not everything can be kept (manual gearboxes, NA engines etc) but that simple, restrained yet beautiful styling was what made it AM for me and this just becomes another over winged and vented monstrosity that we already have too many of.
Bottom line, AMs should be beautiful, not festooned with childish trinkets.

Edited by Syndrome280 on Tuesday 21st November 15:03
On the Head - Nail Hit!!!

The problem for Aston is that for the last few years, many have been saying the current V8V was old and dated and now the new one is here, many are saying it's too modern and they like the older car better! It's always really difficult to come up with a replacement for a design that's been around as long as the old car and that was so right from the start. Aston are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

Ari

19,346 posts

215 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Cold said:
The defining characteristic of an Aston is the distinctive grille, from the. DB4 to present day it’s as essential as the kidney grilles on a BMW.

And they’ve chucked it away.

Madness. frown