RE: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo: Driven

RE: Panamera Turbo S E-Hybrid Sport Turismo: Driven

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RDMcG

19,139 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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olderbutnotwiser said:
Modern day Espada ?
Four doorssmile

Vocht

1,631 posts

164 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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I know the hybrid system's real world validity may be limited, but there's nothing more frustrating than crawling in traffic whilst your car drinks petrol. Mentally it's refreshing as a daily knowing your using zero fuel in all electric mode, even though it's not necessarily the best value model (but then again, who buys a Panamera Turbo if they're looking for value?).

Plate spinner

17,688 posts

200 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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PunterCam said:
69g/kg, as we all know, is an utter bks. I think it'd be great if Pistonheads championed actual efficiency.
What does this actually mean?

PaulD86

1,659 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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I've not driven a Sport Turismo yet, but having spent a couple of days with the new Panamera 4S I couldn't believe how well Porsche can make such a big lump drive. The 4 wheel steer made it feel more nimble than a 4 series and the grip was bonkers (something proved by the max values that were stored in the G meter). This Sport Turismo would be my dream daily driver! Alas I can't afford one so will have to make do with my Mondeo day to day and my Cayman R for the weekends.... I don't think I can complain! laugh

IrishAsal

70 posts

155 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Can someone explain why the article says you can't fit a family in this thing??


RDMcG

19,139 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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IrishAsal said:
Can someone explain why the article says you can't fit a family in this thing??

It is really a four seater. The fifth dear they talk about is a quite uncomfortable perch with legs splayed. Four in comfort.

ZX10R NIN

27,577 posts

125 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Hybrids aren't cheap to produce so that's why the price jumps tbh unless you spend a lot of time in major cities & the congestion that follows you'll just buy the Turbo but it's handy to have the choice.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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RDMcG said:
IrishAsal said:
Can someone explain why the article says you can't fit a family in this thing??

It is really a four seater. The fifth dear they talk about is a quite uncomfortable perch with legs splayed. Four in comfort.
The assumption being that a 'family' must have 3 kids, I assume. Or that the majority of 'families' have 3 kids...or something else as un-qualified, I'd imagine!

PaulD86

1,659 posts

126 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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RDMcG said:
IrishAsal said:
Can someone explain why the article says you can't fit a family in this thing??

It is really a four seater. The fifth dear they talk about is a quite uncomfortable perch with legs splayed. Four in comfort.
So if your family is 2 parents and 2 kids you're laughing. If you have 17 kids you've had it. And if you want to take the extended family that's no use either. So basically it's like any other car....

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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PaulD86 said:
RDMcG said:
IrishAsal said:
Can someone explain why the article says you can't fit a family in this thing??

It is really a four seater. The fifth dear they talk about is a quite uncomfortable perch with legs splayed. Four in comfort.
So if your family is 2 parents and 2 kids you're laughing. If you have 17 kids you've had it. And if you want to take the extended family that's no use either. So basically it's like any other car....
Yep! biggrin

I actually think that the stats in recent years show that we have a large number of families with 4 kids now. More so than any other European country, if I remember correctly (Don't quote that!). If you have 4 kids, you aren't buying 95% of cars for 'family duties', let alone a Porsche of any kind! (No 7 seater option).

If you're rolling in the readies needed in order to be shopping in the £100k+ range for a family barge, I imagine you would be trotting off to Land Rover and spec'ing your RRS with the 2 additional seats in the boot.

RDMcG

19,139 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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This is definitely not a vehicle if you want copious amounts of space. Further, it does not have a roof rail option like my Cayenne. I checked. So no roof pod.
As I said earlier it’s not for the practical , does not deliver the best value for money , and for some it’s ugly.
Can’t wait till mine shows up.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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RDMcG said:
Can’t wait till mine shows up.
Did you attend any of the launch events? I did and I must say that the SportTurismo looked much more 'Porsche' than the regular Panamera. I liked it in the metal. Lovely place to sit, but (admittedly in a room with a lot of people milling about) it felt bloody HUGE! Even I heard myself saying that I wouldn't fancy parking it on a daily basis. (Not here in the UK where our spaces are laughably small - twice unable to get in my Cayman which is allegedly a smaller car!)

I do think that part of me is getting old, tho - starting to be a bit more practical in ways I never used to be. Damnit!

Hope the new car looks as good as the ones I saw. smile

WCZ

10,517 posts

194 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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this car is basically a company car tax scam for directors smile

Plate spinner

17,688 posts

200 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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WCZ said:
this car is basically a company car tax scam for directors smile
Yup, I think I agree.

RDMcG

19,139 posts

207 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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PhantomPH said:
Did you attend any of the launch events? I did and I must say that the SportTurismo looked much more 'Porsche' than the regular Panamera. I liked it in the metal. Lovely place to sit, but (admittedly in a room with a lot of people milling about) it felt bloody HUGE! Even I heard myself saying that I wouldn't fancy parking it on a daily basis. (Not here in the UK where our spaces are laughably small - twice unable to get in my Cayman which is allegedly a smaller car!)

I do think that part of me is getting old, tho - starting to be a bit more practical in ways I never used to be. Damnit!

Hope the new car looks as good as the ones I saw. smile
You’re right about the size. Biggest car I have owned since a Buick in 1993. Parking is an issue of course as it will mainly be street parked. Will just have to get used to it.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

214 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Plate spinner said:
PunterCam said:
69g/kg, as we all know, is an utter bks. I think it'd be great if Pistonheads championed actual efficiency.
What does this actually mean?
The most relevant answer to that is probably that it means that the car is exempt from the London Congestion Charge. That is the only thing that I can think of that in any way matters.

hornbaek

3,673 posts

235 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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Hmm. I quite like it. It is as relevant as the Ferrari FF or whatever the successor is now called. I do find that the facelifted "normal" Panamera is now nicer looking than the Sport Tourismo with the latter being a bit of a wasted opportunity as it looked much nicer as a concept a couple of years ago.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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hornbaek said:
...it looked much nicer as a concept a couple of years ago.
Doesn't everything? smile

8V085

670 posts

77 months

Thursday 23rd November 2017
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hornbaek said:
I do find that the facelifted "normal" Panamera is now nicer looking than the Sport Tourismo with the latter being a bit of a wasted opportunity as it looked much nicer as a concept a couple of years ago.
Farking 'ell, there really is no way to please everyone is there.

R400TVR

543 posts

162 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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How much does it weigh????? How can that weight be justified? Apart from that, what a stupid car. Looks wrong - it's far too long in the middle and the rear overhang, and has a dashboard which can't be used without taking your eyes off the road for a long time. Pointless, and does not have one redeaming quality in my opinion (which is just that, of course).