Family friend followed in car... any way to trace perp?

Family friend followed in car... any way to trace perp?

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LDN

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8,907 posts

203 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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A family friend was followed today; for quite some time.

She drove to her place of work / which is down a private estate, with nothing else down it - and he followed her down there. She got out and confronted him / he looked up and saw all the cameras looking down at him - and sped off.

She took a picture of the car / plate and has been onto the police... but if my experiences are anything to go by; they will do next to fk all.

Any way of getting an idea of who it is / where he's from. I would have put the plate into the MOT history check; and looked if there was a regular garage they used for their MOT (get an idea if he's local) but the car was a year old; so no MOT history.

Any other, publicly available, methods to get any info on the car?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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And what will you do with the information if you get it?

Go round and kick seven shades of ste out of him? Then find out that the car'd been cloned?

Don't be so melodramatic. If you think there's a real issue here, then just phone 101 and give the plate to the police.

LDN

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8,907 posts

203 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
And what will you do with the information if you get it?

Go round and kick seven shades of ste out of him? Then find out that the car'd been cloned?

Don't be so melodramatic. If you think there's a real issue here, then just phone 101 and give the plate to the police.
I'm not being melodramatic. I have my feet up and I'm sipping on a nice cup of tea. All is calm.

But I wondered if there are any clever ways to build a picture on someone / find out what area they live, etc - bar the MOT history check trick.

lucido grigio

44,044 posts

163 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Was she in a car that's a theft target ?

S or RS Audi ,Golf R etc ?

LDN

Original Poster:

8,907 posts

203 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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lucido grigio said:
Was she in a car that's a theft target ?

S or RS Audi ,Golf R etc ?
No; a newish Ford Kuga. So not sure car theft was the aim. She did have a lot of shopping in the back; like A LOT; but seems a little extreme to follow someone for that.

parabolica

6,706 posts

184 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Report the plate to 101 in case he has a history of this and move on; although I’d be extra cautious for the next few days just in case he tries it again - if he does straight onto 999 to report it as twice shows intent imo.

About a year ago a colleague and I left work late; she was in front of me and we got split by a car whilst turning out of a junction. There were 3 or 4 guys in this car (a ropey old A8 on polish plates) and they pulled along side her at some lights and one got out and tried to get into her car - luckily it was locked. Lights go green and Rachael took off; as do they and I’m right behind them. They’re flashing their lights and trying to get along side her again; she calls me and she’s really panicking - we’re on rural roads by this time. I tell her I’m going to get in between them and her and slow them right down so she can scarper down some country lanes - managed to pull it off by basically getting in front of them and stopping dead in the middle of the road - anyway it works.

Turns out these guys had been trying this on for a few days across town and there were multiple reports from people (mostly young females) of them trying to get into their cars; everything got reported to the police that time.

LDN

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Friday 24th November 2017
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parabolica said:
Report the plate to 101 in case he has a history of this and move on; although I’d be extra cautious for the next few days just in case he tries it again - if he does straight onto 999 to report it as twice shows intent imo.

About a year ago a colleague and I left work late; she was in front of me and we got split by a car whilst turning out of a junction. There were 3 or 4 guys in this car (a ropey old A8 on polish plates) and they pulled along side her at some lights and one got out and tried to get into her car - luckily it was locked. Lights go green and Rachael took off; as do they and I’m right behind them. They’re flashing their lights and trying to get along side her again; she calls me and she’s really panicking - we’re on rural roads by this time. I tell her I’m going to get in between them and her and slow them right down so she can scarper down some country lanes - managed to pull it off by basically getting in front of them and stopping dead in the middle of the road - anyway it works.

Turns out these guys had been trying this on for a few days across town and there were multiple reports from people (mostly young females) of them trying to get into their cars; everything got reported to the police that time.
Wow; sorry to hear all that.

Let me ask; what did the police manage to do? Any justice?

cheesesliceking

1,571 posts

240 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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TooMany2cvs said:
And what will you do with the information if you get it?

Go round and kick seven shades of ste out of him? Then find out that the car'd been cloned?

Don't be so melodramatic. If you think there's a real issue here, then just phone 101 and give the plate to the police.
Now I don't usually agree with 2CV but fully onboard this time.

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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LDN said:
She took a picture of the car / plate and has been onto the police... but if my experiences are anything to go by; they will do next to fk all.
Genuinely interested in what you think the police can do other than 'next to fk all'

So far a bloke drove down a road and drive off when someone started taking pictures of him.

4x4Tyke

6,506 posts

132 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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WTF is this call 101 st, call 999 on the spot for this sort of thing.


parabolica

6,706 posts

184 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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LDN said:
parabolica said:
Report the plate to 101 in case he has a history of this and move on; although I’d be extra cautious for the next few days just in case he tries it again - if he does straight onto 999 to report it as twice shows intent imo.

About a year ago a colleague and I left work late; she was in front of me and we got split by a car whilst turning out of a junction. There were 3 or 4 guys in this car (a ropey old A8 on polish plates) and they pulled along side her at some lights and one got out and tried to get into her car - luckily it was locked. Lights go green and Rachael took off; as do they and I’m right behind them. They’re flashing their lights and trying to get along side her again; she calls me and she’s really panicking - we’re on rural roads by this time. I tell her I’m going to get in between them and her and slow them right down so she can scarper down some country lanes - managed to pull it off by basically getting in front of them and stopping dead in the middle of the road - anyway it works.

Turns out these guys had been trying this on for a few days across town and there were multiple reports from people (mostly young females) of them trying to get into their cars; everything got reported to the police that time.
Wow; sorry to hear all that.

Let me ask; what did the police manage to do? Any justice?
Not sure tbh; I left that employer not long after. There was a ton of posts on FB about it happening to others (NE Scotland so smallish community), that’s how we found out about them.


Edited by parabolica on Friday 24th November 20:30

MitchT

15,838 posts

209 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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LDN said:
No; a newish Ford Kuga. So not sure car theft was the aim.
My local rag reported a woman being carjacked for a Juke yesterday, so entirely possible.

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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write to the dvla, say he parked on your private driveway and you want to invoice him, they will provide all the details as a good government company does for its silver.


LDN

Original Poster:

8,907 posts

203 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
write to the dvla, say he parked on your private driveway and you want to invoice him, they will provide all the details as a good government company does for its silver.
Ahhhh; nice! didn't realise it could be done!

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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LDN said:
Ahhhh; nice! didn't realise it could be done!
As long as you pay the fee they will provide the information, its great ins't it,. Just make sure you use one of there reasonable causes.

https://www.gov.uk/request-information-from-dvla
'You can ask for details of another vehicle’s registered keeper. You’ll need a ‘reasonable cause’, for example:

''finding out who was responsible for an accident
tracing the registered keeper of an abandoned vehicle
tracing the registered keeper of a vehicle parked on private land
giving out parking tickets
giving out trespass charge notices
tracing people responsible for driving off without paying for goods and services
tracing people suspected of insurance fraud''

EDIT

''Private car parking management companies that give out parking tickets or trespass charge notices can only request information from DVLA if they’re members of the British Parking Association or the International Parking Community.''

Just say you think you might of hit it or something similar.





Edited by The Spruce goose on Friday 24th November 20:38

eltax91

9,866 posts

206 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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MitchT said:
LDN said:
No; a newish Ford Kuga. So not sure car theft was the aim.
My local rag reported a woman being carjacked for a Juke yesterday, so entirely possible.
Car thieves have kids to ship around too, you know. hehe

Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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The Spruce goose said:
LDN said:
Ahhhh; nice! didn't realise it could be done!
As long as you pay the fee they will provide the information, its great ins't it,. Just make sure you use one of there reasonable causes.

https://www.gov.uk/request-information-from-dvla
'You can ask for details of another vehicle’s registered keeper. You’ll need a ‘reasonable cause’, for example:

''finding out who was responsible for an accident
tracing the registered keeper of an abandoned vehicle
tracing the registered keeper of a vehicle parked on private land
giving out parking tickets
giving out trespass charge notices
tracing people responsible for driving off without paying for goods and services
tracing people suspected of insurance fraud''

EDIT

''Private car parking management companies that give out parking tickets or trespass charge notices can only request information from DVLA if they’re members of the British Parking Association or the International Parking Community.''

Just say you think you might of hit it or something similar.

Edited by The Spruce goose on Friday 24th November 20:38
So in this scenario the OP has no reason to get the keeper details and you're suggesting he lies to get them?

What if the bloke made a genuine mistake and left due to someone taking pictures of him, or thought it was someone he knew, realised it wasn't and left?

What's the OP going to do, go round there and warn him off, dominate his stairs?

accident

582 posts

256 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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probably just wanted to tell her to get off the phone.
or mabey she has driven the last 10 miles with a flat tyre,bag on the roof etc.


Greendubber

13,168 posts

203 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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accident said:
probably just wanted to tell her to get off the phone.
or mabey she has driven the last 10 miles with a flat tyre,bag on the roof etc.
Better report him to the police, find out his address and send the boys over then laugh

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 24th November 2017
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Greendubber said:
So in this scenario the OP has no reason to get the keeper details and you're suggesting he lies to get them?

What if the bloke made a genuine mistake and left due to someone taking pictures of him, or thought it was someone he knew, realised it wasn't and left?

What's the OP going to do, go round there and warn him off, dominate his stairs?
the op asked the question what he does with it is up to him, but if it was my girlfriend i would want to know the information, maybe if it was your boyfriend/girlfriend you might too.

You can resolve issues without being all internet hardmen you read on here you know.