RE: Prior Convictions: Wrangling with change
Discussion
Roll cage kind off defeats the point of the fold flat windscreen (i.e. to make the original military vehicle more compact for air transport).
Also, what on earth is the point of the hole in the door?? Obviously I guess it might save a bit of weight, but so would having no door. A door with a hole is even less practical than no door at all (you still have to open a door with a hole). This is surely just for the show car, but why? Is the seat cushion visible through the hole really that interesting??
With a JK you can take the roof off, doors off and fold down the windscreen with the aid of just an Allen key (just in case you need to stack it two high with other JK's in the back of a C130...). Now you're gonna need an angle grinder...
Also, what on earth is the point of the hole in the door?? Obviously I guess it might save a bit of weight, but so would having no door. A door with a hole is even less practical than no door at all (you still have to open a door with a hole). This is surely just for the show car, but why? Is the seat cushion visible through the hole really that interesting??
With a JK you can take the roof off, doors off and fold down the windscreen with the aid of just an Allen key (just in case you need to stack it two high with other JK's in the back of a C130...). Now you're gonna need an angle grinder...
NorfolkSteve said:
Roll cage kind off defeats the point of the fold flat windscreen (i.e. to make the original military vehicle more compact for air transport).
Also, what on earth is the point of the hole in the door?? Obviously I guess it might save a bit of weight, but so would having no door. A door with a hole is even less practical than no door at all (you still have to open a door with a hole). This is surely just for the show car, but why? Is the seat cushion visible through the hole really that interesting??
With a JK you can take the roof off, doors off and fold down the windscreen with the aid of just an Allen key (just in case you need to stack it two high with other JK's in the back of a C130...). Now you're gonna need an angle grinder...
There have always been half door options for the Wrangler. Offroaders like them to be able to lean out. Common in AZ. However You need to move the door-attached mirrors to the A pillars and not sure how the wiring works. In the desert there is no rain so the open door is OK. I have seen ana anting number of variationsAlso, what on earth is the point of the hole in the door?? Obviously I guess it might save a bit of weight, but so would having no door. A door with a hole is even less practical than no door at all (you still have to open a door with a hole). This is surely just for the show car, but why? Is the seat cushion visible through the hole really that interesting??
With a JK you can take the roof off, doors off and fold down the windscreen with the aid of just an Allen key (just in case you need to stack it two high with other JK's in the back of a C130...). Now you're gonna need an angle grinder...
I'd be jumping at one of these new 2-door Wranglers sharpish.....BUT.....pricing for the current range is crazy money in Blighty
Starts at $24k for a 2dr Sport in USA (18k in UK money), but this somehow nearly doubles to £35k once it's over here? Even taking £6k off to account for VAT, they are still pricing themselves out of many a sale by a good margin
Starts at $24k for a 2dr Sport in USA (18k in UK money), but this somehow nearly doubles to £35k once it's over here? Even taking £6k off to account for VAT, they are still pricing themselves out of many a sale by a good margin
jsc15 said:
I'd be jumping at one of these new 2-door Wranglers sharpish.....BUT.....pricing for the current range is crazy money in Blighty
Starts at $24k for a 2dr Sport in USA (18k in UK money), but this somehow nearly doubles to £35k once it's over here? Even taking £6k off to account for VAT, they are still pricing themselves out of many a sale by a good margin
I would advise you to avoid the first year. Even with established models quality can be so so. I am waiting for year 2. This is a very big change for Jeep even if it looks similar to the JK. Agree pricing in the UK seems wild. I will get mine for about $35 I think.Starts at $24k for a 2dr Sport in USA (18k in UK money), but this somehow nearly doubles to £35k once it's over here? Even taking £6k off to account for VAT, they are still pricing themselves out of many a sale by a good margin
Remember the difference between the US and UK prices will also include spec differences.
Base spec here in the US, 16" steel wheels, bin liner softtop, keep fit windows, no AC etc...... . I should imagine base spec in the UK is close to the Sahara spec in the US.
I moved to the US 4 years ago and bought one, 4seat, 285hp, RWD convertible.
Its a 4dr too, so also my tow mobile, family car, winter car.
Have uprated most things (all but engine, trans and rear bumper) and although meant to be terrible on the road, 500miles to Missouri for a weekend on the trails wasn't a problem. (or 2 days offroad, and 500miles home). 3.5"lift, 35" tires at 72mph nets 18.2 MPG(US).
Only had the oil pressure switch fail in the last 45k miles, 1 door leaked from new, but its not a problem as there are rubber bungs in the floor to remove and let the water out. Not like it doesn't all get wet if it rains in the summer and the roof and doors are off anyway.
This new one addresses a lot of the popular upgrades straight from the factory, its really a great bit of design from that point of view. Especially as it has a number of new regs to meet, e.g. that necessitate the front part of the windscreen frame. Makes it look like a full cage.
Nothing to make me change mine like for like, but definitely if I wanted a 2dr or manual trans or the hybrid 4cyl it would have no issues.
Its usually customary for previous generations of Wrangler owner to hate the new one.
Base spec here in the US, 16" steel wheels, bin liner softtop, keep fit windows, no AC etc...... . I should imagine base spec in the UK is close to the Sahara spec in the US.
I moved to the US 4 years ago and bought one, 4seat, 285hp, RWD convertible.
Its a 4dr too, so also my tow mobile, family car, winter car.
Have uprated most things (all but engine, trans and rear bumper) and although meant to be terrible on the road, 500miles to Missouri for a weekend on the trails wasn't a problem. (or 2 days offroad, and 500miles home). 3.5"lift, 35" tires at 72mph nets 18.2 MPG(US).
Only had the oil pressure switch fail in the last 45k miles, 1 door leaked from new, but its not a problem as there are rubber bungs in the floor to remove and let the water out. Not like it doesn't all get wet if it rains in the summer and the roof and doors are off anyway.
This new one addresses a lot of the popular upgrades straight from the factory, its really a great bit of design from that point of view. Especially as it has a number of new regs to meet, e.g. that necessitate the front part of the windscreen frame. Makes it look like a full cage.
Nothing to make me change mine like for like, but definitely if I wanted a 2dr or manual trans or the hybrid 4cyl it would have no issues.
Its usually customary for previous generations of Wrangler owner to hate the new one.
UK new car prices were raised materially at the beginning of 2016 if I recall (10%??) Used prices looked pretty high in 2016.
Early US pricing info on the new JL suggests 7-9% rise over equivalent JK; so realistically the new model could be more pricey in the UK.
Most recent UK cars are pretty specced up however, particularly Overlands and later Rubi.
Let’s hope the export bumpers aren’t mingers but that won’t stop me ordering one too when the JL is all sorted.
Early US pricing info on the new JL suggests 7-9% rise over equivalent JK; so realistically the new model could be more pricey in the UK.
Most recent UK cars are pretty specced up however, particularly Overlands and later Rubi.
Let’s hope the export bumpers aren’t mingers but that won’t stop me ordering one too when the JL is all sorted.
Harry Flashman said:
How's that manly diesel estate car of yours holding up? 
That manly diesel estate has, alas, gone to that great scrapyard in the sky, as a result of my driving into the back of a Fiat 500 - all my fault, though slightly terrifying as my shoe got stuck under the brake pedal.Anyway, when you take a 10 year old 525d touring with 180,000 miles on the clock, as soon as you need any more than a new bonnet badge it becomes 'economically beyond repair, so when it needed a new bumper, bonnet, wing.....the game was up.
I felt it was worth about £3k max, though the insurance company insisted I take £4,700 for it, so I didn't argue.
Spent £3,500 on a 57 reg 5 door 120i SE manual - 2.0 litre 4 pot with 170bhp - much smaller, but a sweet drive - I call it the go-kart because it's so nimble. It's got 105k miles on it, but it's very solid and has already taken me all over the UK. I never really liked the shape, my wife wanted it more, but it's a seriously impressive drive.
The Spruce goose said:
The wranglers ive seen driven in the UK are always by women I guess they must make up a lot of sale.
One of my Mums ex partners had a wrangler. He thought it was very "macho".It was dark green with a creme cloth interior. He also would drive it around with huge aviators.
It was a pretty horrific car by all means.
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