RE: Alpine A110: Driven
Discussion
I don't understand how people can think it needs more power and an LSD without actually driving it.
If it cracks near 4.5secs to 60mph, I can't see how either of those attributes are needed or even desirable..
I guess all those over-specced, £50k (£20k + "extra's") hatches have spoiled some to what a decent drivers car actually is.
Good effort by the looks of it.
4 cylinders, means a dull sound, 4 cylinders with a turbo, duller still. £50K for a dull sounding engine, no matter how good the car may be, is just too much.
Shame, because, like the flat four Caymen, for those reasons I will not be buying. I will be sticking with my M235,which sounds fab (and purchased new for a heavily discounted price of £31K,just two years ago).
Shame, because, like the flat four Caymen, for those reasons I will not be buying. I will be sticking with my M235,which sounds fab (and purchased new for a heavily discounted price of £31K,just two years ago).
coastpath said:
4 cylinders, means a dull sound, 4 cylinders with a turbo, duller still. £50K for a dull sounding engine, no matter how good the car may be, is just too much.
Shame, because, like the flat four Caymen, for those reasons I will not be buying. I will be sticking with my M235,which sounds fab (and purchased new for a heavily discounted price of £31K,just two years ago).
£31K would get u a hot rod i guessShame, because, like the flat four Caymen, for those reasons I will not be buying. I will be sticking with my M235,which sounds fab (and purchased new for a heavily discounted price of £31K,just two years ago).
why dont u buy that as will sound even better no ?
coastpath said:
4 cylinders, means a dull sound, 4 cylinders with a turbo, duller still. £50K for a dull sounding engine, no matter how good the car may be, is just too much.
Shame, because, like the flat four Caymen, for those reasons I will not be buying. I will be sticking with my M235,which sounds fab (and purchased new for a heavily discounted price of £31K,just two years ago).
I liked the M235 when I drove one across the NC500 though I suspect the two cars are very different propositions. Shame, because, like the flat four Caymen, for those reasons I will not be buying. I will be sticking with my M235,which sounds fab (and purchased new for a heavily discounted price of £31K,just two years ago).
gofasterrosssco said:
I don't understand how people can think it needs more power and an LSD without actually driving it.
Same. LSD on an inherently very tractable mid-ship chassis can be a mixed blessing too.As for auto, it's perfectly conceivable that a driving enthusiast either prefers auto or doesn't mind either transmissions although there is no agreed definition of driving enthusiasts anyway.
That a large manufacturer launches stuff like that is brilliant even if many won't buy it simply because it doesn't have a LSD, it is too slow (!!), objectively ugly, etc etc - there is always a good reason not to buy a car.
Edited by nickfrog on Friday 8th December 15:51
Prestonese said:
WCZ said:
love it but is crying out for more power
But why though? In any case, the concept centres around weight rather than power. As in life, power corrupts.
same reason it has skinny tyres rather than follow the current trend for huge wheels with wide tyres - this car is about fun
If it had 300 bhp or even 350, some people would still say they could get a TTRS, AMG45 and numerous other cars for the same or less money, with more power
They aren't playing the game and that's exactly what will appeal to some and not to others
They have worked hard on establishing what they are trying to do rather than attempt to be all things to all people, or enter into a power/lap time game of top trumps. They know their target market and they are sticking to it. To work, it has to polarise and it has to be a car that many don't and won't ever get
Whether there are enough people in that target market, time will tell but it's great they are giving it a really good, well thought out shot
Very nice - sounds like a great package.
But what has happened to a bit of rim on wheels? All cars have huge offsets on wheels now so that wheels are all so flat - and it just kills the way a nice haunchy sportscar sits on its arches. Obviously they are diamond cut over black as well. At least they're not solid matte black.
I mean - look at the dish/rim on the original. Brilliant!
But what has happened to a bit of rim on wheels? All cars have huge offsets on wheels now so that wheels are all so flat - and it just kills the way a nice haunchy sportscar sits on its arches. Obviously they are diamond cut over black as well. At least they're not solid matte black.
I mean - look at the dish/rim on the original. Brilliant!
jonby said:
Prestonese said:
WCZ said:
love it but is crying out for more power
But why though? In any case, the concept centres around weight rather than power. As in life, power corrupts.
It's being sold on its rally heritage at a press junket in Monte Carlo. Such a special car needs a 'special' engine to add to its mystique and desirability.
That doesn't necessarily mean big power (and I agree with you that it's not a car for massive power), just more power than you find elsewhere in say a Megane or at least the same as they were threatening to put in that mental Clio. 280bhp would be perfect.
It's not about competing with an A45, just differentiating from a Megane.
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