RE: PH Service History: The Famous Five
Discussion
I am the owner of an E34 M5. As mentioned above, total money pit, after 1year of ownership, nearly £6k spent on it and planning another 5k next year to bring it close to perfection (to my eyes). Many have been run on beer money sadly, so finding a good one is pretty hard. I have been offered £27k just on pictures, but I can't depart from it.
Nothing come close to it for driving pleasure when you pass above 4000rpm. The sound is just magic.
E28&E34s are the only 2 M5 to my eyes.
Nothing come close to it for driving pleasure when you pass above 4000rpm. The sound is just magic.
E28&E34s are the only 2 M5 to my eyes.
Have owned my M5 18 years, I'm not going to waffle on too much
(Seems only last month there was another M5 article...)
Suffice to say it has the most fantastic charismatic engine wrapped in a pin sharp
'90's body coupled with superb build quality.
It's not been a money pit, but it has been fastidiously looked after.
Any way, fair game excuse to share a few photos....
[url|https://thumbsnap.com/XqzXBCDK[/url]
(Seems only last month there was another M5 article...)
Suffice to say it has the most fantastic charismatic engine wrapped in a pin sharp
'90's body coupled with superb build quality.
It's not been a money pit, but it has been fastidiously looked after.
Any way, fair game excuse to share a few photos....
[url|https://thumbsnap.com/XqzXBCDK[/url]
Edited by 3795mpower on Monday 11th December 20:51
It makes you wonder if the current path of fast saloon development is making any sense.
When the E28 arrived, its level of performance compared to an ordinary 5 series, say a 520i, was night and day.
These days even a cooking diesel model - certainly a 530d - has straight line performance that can't realistically be used. So to justify its existence the M5 has to be not just very fast, it has to stupdily, unusably fast - and laden with yet more technology as some measure of progress.
If the M5 really still is about the driver, why not make it more akin to a saloon equivalent of a GT3? Forget about the headline figures, but add response, feel and edge in a lighter, everyday package. That's the magic M division used to weave.
When the E28 arrived, its level of performance compared to an ordinary 5 series, say a 520i, was night and day.
These days even a cooking diesel model - certainly a 530d - has straight line performance that can't realistically be used. So to justify its existence the M5 has to be not just very fast, it has to stupdily, unusably fast - and laden with yet more technology as some measure of progress.
If the M5 really still is about the driver, why not make it more akin to a saloon equivalent of a GT3? Forget about the headline figures, but add response, feel and edge in a lighter, everyday package. That's the magic M division used to weave.
MrTouring said:
E61 owner here who also had a e28 - like the other poster here I have no idea what I’ll replace it with. Got whooped by a new rs6 the other day (he was cheating with his 4wd and big old turbos!) but was too busy grinning at the v10 wailing to notice him disappearing into the distance!!!!!
Fair play, that does look the billy b0llocks JD2329 said:
It makes you wonder if the current path of fast saloon development is making any sense.
When the E28 arrived, its level of performance compared to an ordinary 5 series, say a 520i, was night and day.
These days even a cooking diesel model - certainly a 530d - has straight line performance that can't realistically be used. So to justify its existence the M5 has to be not just very fast, it has to stupdily, unusably fast - and laden with yet more technology as some measure of progress.
If the M5 really still is about the driver, why not make it more akin to a saloon equivalent of a GT3? Forget about the headline figures, but add response, feel and edge in a lighter, everyday package. That's the magic M division used to weave.
So very correct, i will go as far to say BMW //M should focus more on lightness of their car's, sharper handling and less body kit - (Spoilers etc etc) - then reduce all the driver aids and keep them to bare minimum - this are drivers cars - reduce the power slightly a la 911GT3 /turbo( so m5 = GT3 / 911Turbo = 7 series or 550sport), then reduce their speed for sensation. So go back to basics like the e28. But all this big power fight between Audi, Mercedes, etc etc i wonder when it will end. As an example i drove the f10 m5 when they first came out and it was silly fast and i did not like it at all cause i left me cold, plus it can get one in trouble easily by the time you hear that engine sing....When the E28 arrived, its level of performance compared to an ordinary 5 series, say a 520i, was night and day.
These days even a cooking diesel model - certainly a 530d - has straight line performance that can't realistically be used. So to justify its existence the M5 has to be not just very fast, it has to stupdily, unusably fast - and laden with yet more technology as some measure of progress.
If the M5 really still is about the driver, why not make it more akin to a saloon equivalent of a GT3? Forget about the headline figures, but add response, feel and edge in a lighter, everyday package. That's the magic M division used to weave.
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