RE: How to enjoy winter driving...

RE: How to enjoy winter driving...

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xjay1337

15,966 posts

118 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Take your EU talk to NPE.

Nowhere in the article does it mention going to your local Tescos and doing handyBs.

GrandAndrew

876 posts

150 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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I find the point when you’re sitting there getting ready to disembark at Calais one of the most exciting bits of an entire trip. I’m quite sad in that I sit there with “Bat Out of Hell” waiting to play.

We’re lucky down in Kent because we’re right at the terminals already meaning that we can have a day trip driving around rural France at the drop of a hat. I had a memorable day in my 205 in October last year. Drove for a few hours with the sat nav set to avoid motorways and found some great roads, had moules & frites then returned home. Again, Le Touquet for lunch is only an hour or so down the road.


JohnGoodridge

529 posts

195 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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LOTS more speed cameras in France this year. I spent a week near Annecy, and another week near Epernay, and there were many more in new locations I hadn't seen on previous visits.

I got flashed at about 135 kph on the peage, which was a relief, as I had been travelling at a *little* more than that for the previous hour. Ticket hasn't come yet though, despite the recently granted access to the DVLA database.

There was a time when France was an amazing place to drive a fast car using good judgement, and have confidence all would be well. Not so sure these days.

cramorra

1,665 posts

235 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Definitely agree with the cartel
Less so with the crowd free European travel
Yes France is great but you pay
Belgium can ground you around Brussels and antwerp just as much as the m25 and autobahns tend to suck south from Frankfurt to nuremberg or between Stuttgart and munich
But if you travel at night it s a treat

LotusOmega375D

7,613 posts

153 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Who wants to see a nice pair of Bristols?







runnerbean 14

274 posts

134 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Haha nice bit of nostalgia there. There is a Jensen 541 somewhere that holds the London to Paris (Marble Arch to Arc de Triomphe) record using this service - an incredible 2 hours 20 minutes. Couldn't do that now. See link http://www.jensen541.com/index2.htm

Marvin Trill

35 posts

131 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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What's the consensus on Spain? I have done the Ferry from Portsmouth to Santander but only in a Lorry for work. Decent roads, Sunny weather, nice Rioja wine what more could we ask for?

big_rob_sydney

3,402 posts

194 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Driving on the continent has been great for us. We waft along in a Lexus LS, which I find perfect. The kids sleep easily due to zero road noise, the stereo pumps out a great quality sound, and I do find the traffic flow to be so much easier than here in the UK that the difference isnt even funny.

Must admit, I laughed at the reference to returning to the UK and doing ridiculously slow speeds, because that is exactly my experience of driving around and into central London. Still, I would expect if you tried to do the same in many other continental cities, you'd probably have the same result.

We recently drove down to Barcelona via Andorra, and I must say, the continental side was a real pleasure. The weather was certainly better, the roads, the food tasted fresher. In fact, everything was better, barring the fact that we have UK jobs.

If not for that, we'd move in a heartbeat.

blueST

4,392 posts

216 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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What a bizarre story... Eurotunnel prices have increased but you can still cross for under £200 and if you don't mind being sea sick the ferries are cheaper.

vikingaero

10,328 posts

169 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Years ago Eurotunnel used to do £9 night return fares - travel after 6pm, return before 6am. We live 35 mins from the Tunnel and used the £9 fares many times for dinner in Le Touquet. Dem were da daze.

unsprung

5,467 posts

124 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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vikingaero said:
Years ago Eurotunnel used to do £9 night return fares - travel after 6pm, return before 6am. We live 35 mins from the Tunnel and used the £9 fares many times for dinner in Le Touquet. Dem were da daze.
Excellent. Off-peak travel and yield-maximisation schemes can produce some of the best travel deals, ever. Some amusing stories often go along with such travel, especially when younger.

It's a lot more of a hassle to pop over to the US from Blighty, but you'll be guaranteed to get away from the cold, if that's what you'd like. Choose from beaches, deserts, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath... it's all here.

Sortie 10

724 posts

252 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Cost is not an issue. Both DFDS & P & O offer season tickets for a minimum of 6 x single crossings. The cost savings are worth checking out.
I have just bought a return crossing over the holiday period for £36 each way with a £30 supplement for each crossing. Compare that with £100 + each way sans season ticket. I'll be quids in after making another return trip in 2018 (Geneva Motor Show?) and then have a pair of effectively free tickets for use later in the year (Le Mans?).

If you travel even more frequently to France for the friendly people (controversial!), sensational scenery and great driving (watch out for the planned 80 kmh N road and 120 kmh autoroute speed limits in 2018) you can get the cost down towards £30 each way.
Worth hunting down by digging deep on the ferry companies' websites.

If you plan on serious winter driving in colder areas of Europe it is well worth investing in some winter tyres - the difference with normal boots is incredible and may mean not having to "chain-up" (it always seems to be dark and a blizzard when I am forced to do so...)


Speedgirl

291 posts

167 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Driving in Europe is always lovely because it means you're on holiday, even if you've made une slight mistake by traversing the Pyranees when it's freezing in a RWD car on summer tyres. And les gendarmes are so polite, with helpful directions to the nearest cash point. They even come along to make sure you don't get lost.
And no ones mentioned that awesome cattle truck of a car train that used to rattle from Calais to Nice. That was great!

givablondabone

5,502 posts

155 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Utter poppycock this article.

Eurotunnel always under 200 quid and faster than the ferry. 4 years ago I did do the ferry to Calais at £69 return.

Please.............

mariscalcus

53 posts

145 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Speedgirl said:
Driving in Europe is always lovely because it means you're on holiday, even if you've made une slight mistake by traversing the Pyranees when it's freezing in a RWD car on summer tyres. And les gendarmes are so polite, with helpful directions to the nearest cash point. They even come along to make sure you don't get lost.
And no ones mentioned that awesome cattle truck of a car train that used to rattle from Calais to Nice. That was great!
Ah, Le Train-Auto! Brilliant service. A tad off-topic but when I lived in Paris in the late 80s with 2 very young children it was the perfect way to travel to the south of France. Drop car off at Gare de Lyon at 8pm. Dinner in a local resto. On board train by 10pm. Sleep. Off train in Marseilles, Nice, Toulouse or wherever at 6 am. Petit dejeuner in the station included with the ticket. Car delivered to the front of the station. On the road by 7am. Amazing but long gone now.

mariscalcus

53 posts

145 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Speedgirl said:
Driving in Europe is always lovely because it means you're on holiday, even if you've made une slight mistake by traversing the Pyranees when it's freezing in a RWD car on summer tyres. And les gendarmes are so polite, with helpful directions to the nearest cash point. They even come along to make sure you don't get lost.
And no ones mentioned that awesome cattle truck of a car train that used to rattle from Calais to Nice. That was great!
Ah, Le Train-Auto! Brilliant service. A tad off-topic but when I lived in Paris in the late 80s with 2 very young children it was the perfect way to travel to the south of France. Drop car off at Gare de Lyon at 8pm. Dinner in a local resto. On board train by 10pm. Sleep. Off train in Marseilles, Nice, Toulouse or wherever at 6 am. Petit dejeuner in the station included with the ticket. Car delivered to the front of the station. On the road by 7am. Amazing but long gone now.

LotusOmega375D

7,613 posts

153 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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We did that Calais to Nice and back car train with my old Renault 5 Turbo 2 on our pilgrimage to Corsica in 2003 for our honeymoon. amongst all the bland family cars, you could sense the vehicle loaders itching to get their hands on the keys to my car!

Believe it or not it was considered quite a risky journey. The train would have to stop occasionally in central France during the night (crew changes, signalling etc.). The local criminals knew this and would sometimes break into the heavily-laden vehicles on the stationary wagons and help themselves to some British holiday luggage. I guess it was France's answer to The Great Train Robbery.

cookington

103 posts

142 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Why Does Every Word In The Title Of The Article Start With A Capital Letter?

Edited by cookington on Thursday 14th December 10:20

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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cookington said:
Why Does Every Word In The Title Of The Article Start With A Capital Letter?
Because 10 Borrowed Clickbait Listicle Authors Who'll Amaze You!

SumoGreg

30 posts

141 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Nice Mustang GT - H in the photos. It is a very naughty car. Rent one if you can... smooth roads required! I love the liberation of arriving in Europe....i try to drive slowly tongue out