RE: Porsche 911 Carrera T: Driven

RE: Porsche 911 Carrera T: Driven

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Sensei Rob

312 posts

79 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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1500 KG - that's heavier than a Volvo 240 estate.

ocrx8

868 posts

196 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Hellish article to read.

Nerdherder

1,773 posts

97 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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chappardababbar said:
Whilst i appreciate that this is free content, and I am very grateful for it, I found this article very difficult to read. Only compelled to make a point in the comments because I was so looking forward to reading this review.
Likewise. Was really looking forward to the Pistonheads take on the Carrera T, still am after reading the article twice.

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

225 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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andrewparker said:
PhantomPH said:
andrewparker said:
As much as I want to love this car, I think you’d be mad not to buy a GTS.
If you mean 911 GTS, then try spec'ing a GTS for anything like the price of a T. It ain't gonna happen.
Isn’t the base price £10k apart?
Yes but that’s still 12% increase over the T. Plus the spec’d prices of both cars (that a regular person will actually buy) will widen the gap even further.

Xaero

4,060 posts

215 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Jollyclub said:
‘Clicks into place like falling dominoes.’ Does that mean it does or doesn’t?

Sounds like something Dan Brown would write.
spreadsheet monkey said:
Spearing? Not sure if this is some kind of Troy Queef parody.
toppstuff said:
I have read this three times now and it still does not make much sense.
chappardababbar said:
Whilst i appreciate that this is free content, and I am very grateful for it, I found this article very difficult to read. Only compelled to make a point in the comments because I was so looking forward to reading this review.
ocrx8 said:
Hellish article to read.
Nerdherder said:
Likewise. Was really looking forward to the Pistonheads take on the Carrera T, still am after reading the article twice.
Have to agree with these unfortunately. Was a needlessly difficult article to read.

Swampy1982

3,305 posts

111 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Couldnt you just spec the rear seats and fold them flat to improve balance... because race car...


(Edited to add, article is nye on impossible to make sense of, more similar to rambilings of a mad man than a professional review...)

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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PhantomPH said:
andrewparker said:
PhantomPH said:
andrewparker said:
As much as I want to love this car, I think you’d be mad not to buy a GTS.
If you mean 911 GTS, then try spec'ing a GTS for anything like the price of a T. It ain't gonna happen.
Isn’t the base price £10k apart?
Yes but that’s still 12% increase over the T. Plus the spec’d prices of both cars (that a regular person will actually buy) will widen the gap even further.
OK, so forgetting what options you think people would add, I still think (as the reviewer also mentions) that the GTS justifies it’s £10k premium over the T.

And if the GTS pack is essential on the GTS, why isn’t the similarly priced Carrera T pack not essential on the T?

I’d personally add rear wheel steering to both cars and that would be it.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I don't even begin to understand this car. A downtuned turbo engine in a heavy car with the back seats taken out (for no obvious reason).

Mr-B

3,780 posts

194 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Xaero said:
Have to agree with these unfortunately. Was a needlessly difficult article to read.
It was indeed, gave up. Nick Cackett has form, he used to write in similarly flowery terms for Autocar and got a bit of a kicking there too. Seems to have been punted sideways into PH so we have to suffer him now.

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Ghastly article.

Can't see any sense in this car at all. As a 2 seater an F-Type R would be where my money would be going and with discounts would comfortably undercut this I'm sure. Looks and sounds a whole lot better too IMO.

Yipper

5,964 posts

90 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Porsche is subsegmenting itself into sub-brand confusion and starting to turnoff buyers.

SD and P

27 posts

138 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Reading this article was quite hard work. Sport Journo pack's most unflinching write mode?

aelord

337 posts

225 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Talk about damning with faint praise.

Always the way - they can't come out and slate it because that will wreck their relationship with Porsche and compromise access to new models to review etc. etc.

You just have to read between the lines - it's an underpowered turkey with a duff box and ratios.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Agree - truly terrible writing. I want to read about this car but by someone who can write properly to convey the key points.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

93 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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That article was awful to read and I don't get the car either

Lets say that I want a 911, why buy this one?

Plate spinner

17,697 posts

200 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Not really sure I get this car.
If I didn't need the rear seat space, £85k buys rather a lot from the Cayman section of the Porsche showroom.

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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aelord said:
Talk about damning with faint praise.

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Yeah that was the gist I got but I'm not sure the writer's first language is English.

ORD

18,120 posts

127 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Plate spinner said:
Not really sure I get this car.
If I didn't need the rear seat space, £85k buys rather a lot from the Cayman section of the Porsche showroom.
No reason at all to buy a boggo 2-seater 911 above a GT4, certainly.

It does not even make sense to buy one above a boggo Cayman unless you cannot stand the 4 cyl snooze fest engine and want a 6 cyl snooze fest engine.

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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unpc said:
aelord said:
Talk about damning with faint praise.

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Yeah that was the gist I got but I'm not sure the writer's first language is English.
... the writer's first language is Barbara Cartland ....

givablondabone

5,503 posts

155 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Yipper said:
Porsche is subsegmenting itself into sub-brand confusion and starting to turnoff buyers.
+1. Porsche are taking the p!ss out of people who are tripping up over their disposable...........