RE: Porsche 911 Carrera T: Driven

RE: Porsche 911 Carrera T: Driven

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aelord

337 posts

225 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Porsche are certainly losing their way - and probably customers - unless you are one of the chosen Ubermensch who are invited to buy and cash in on the halo models that us mere mortals are precluded from.

No, we are expected to get wet over these smoke-and-mirrors pathetic badge marketing scraps tossed to the masses.

The styling of Porsche's cars has become cluttered, fussy and frankly vulgar. What happened to the Bauhaus simplicity?

The engines. No need to say any more about those than has already been.


AndrewNR

267 posts

122 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Not much quicker than a Golf R

Speedgirl

291 posts

167 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I think we all want to like this car but...
Pic looks like it's got big money yellow brakes, and the boggo brakes are a weak spot, but if you're getting PBMYB then you'll get RWS etc etc and it's an expensive car.
Doesn't quite make sense over a sensibly specced S or GTS.

cliveju

32 posts

90 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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chappardababbar said:
Whilst i appreciate that this is free content, and I am very grateful for it, I found this article very difficult to read. Only compelled to make a point in the comments because I was so looking forward to reading this review.
I enjoyed reading it. Granted there are lots of references to other Porsche models but that's probably inevitable in a Pistonhead article.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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What does his offer over the Exige 430 on the other thread? Maybe a bit more luggage room.

TrackNutz

164 posts

76 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Wow. I got nothing from that. Maybe trying to use as many new journalist words as possible?

I want this car to be an affordable GT3 Touring and I'm no more the wiser.

BrotherMouzone

3,169 posts

174 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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ocrx8 said:
Hellish article to read.
+1

Who wrote this article?

givablondabone

5,494 posts

155 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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AndrewNR said:
Not much quicker than a Golf R
I'm suspecting tongue in cheek?

f1ten

2,161 posts

153 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Agree. It's a gap filler to get people interested in a standard 991. The gearing sounds crap as does the 7th speed ratio.

ORD said:
I don't even begin to understand this car. A downtuned turbo engine in a heavy car with the back seats taken out (for no obvious reason).

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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370-bhp for £85k base? Wow.

The drive had better be awesome.

To think that people slam the Lotus Exige 430 for being poor VFM and the £60k £430bhp BMW M4 for being underpowered.

Ares

11,000 posts

120 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
What does his offer over the Exige 430 on the other thread? Maybe a bit more luggage room.
Half the performance?
Far higher running costs?

...oh and a badge wink

NJJ

432 posts

80 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Didn't understand the car before reading this article let alone afterwards. Still none the wiser......

Wills2

22,782 posts

175 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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ORD said:
I don't even begin to understand this car. A downtuned turbo engine in a heavy car with the back seats taken out (for no obvious reason).
Same weight as my old 997.2 C2S and quicker (just a tad mind) I'd love one if I was looking for a new car I'd have one manual + buckets and LED lights.

Seats are a no cost option so no need to be upset/puzzled about them not being there same with the PCM.







big_rob_sydney

3,401 posts

194 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Confusing article. I would ask the writer to be clearer.

As for the car itself, I've just lost all interest. Seems like another week another model. I dont know if this is a cynical attempt by Porsche to move more metal by churning out yet another minor variant.

Whatever.

As someone else wrote, if I were after a 2 seater, Lotus would be high on the list. If I wanted a 4 seater around this space, the Nissan GTR would be it. I see no point in Porsche at this level.

Mr Tom

618 posts

141 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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So it’s a lightened (but not that light) more focussed 911. But has a less powerful engine and is called touring suggesting you tour in it... but it has no satnav and no sound deadening. I’m an confused with both the car and the article.

Kawasicki

13,078 posts

235 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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This will be sought after in the future.

I'd love one.

Didn't notice article was difficult to read, either.

pmr01

318 posts

150 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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chappardababbar said:
Whilst i appreciate that this is free content, and I am very grateful for it, I found this article very difficult to read. Only compelled to make a point in the comments because I was so looking forward to reading this review.
Good point, well made.

davidc1

1,545 posts

162 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Dan trent needed to write this.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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davidc1 said:
Dan trent needed to write this.
I think anyone on this planet would have done a better job.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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I have no idea what I've just read.