RE: Porsche 911 Carrera T: Driven

RE: Porsche 911 Carrera T: Driven

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aelord

264 posts

164 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Porsche are certainly losing their way - and probably customers - unless you are one of the chosen Ubermensch who are invited to buy and cash in on the halo models that us mere mortals are precluded from.

No, we are expected to get wet over these smoke-and-mirrors pathetic badge marketing scraps tossed to the masses.

The styling of Porsche's cars has become cluttered, fussy and frankly vulgar. What happened to the Bauhaus simplicity?

The engines. No need to say any more about those than has already been.


AndrewNR

30 posts

61 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Not much quicker than a Golf R

Speedgirl

46 posts

106 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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I think we all want to like this car but...
Pic looks like it's got big money yellow brakes, and the boggo brakes are a weak spot, but if you're getting PBMYB then you'll get RWS etc etc and it's an expensive car.
Doesn't quite make sense over a sensibly specced S or GTS.

cliveju

8 posts

29 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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chappardababbar said:
Whilst i appreciate that this is free content, and I am very grateful for it, I found this article very difficult to read. Only compelled to make a point in the comments because I was so looking forward to reading this review.
I enjoyed reading it. Granted there are lots of references to other Porsche models but that's probably inevitable in a Pistonhead article.

SidewaysSi

5,170 posts

173 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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What does his offer over the Exige 430 on the other thread? Maybe a bit more luggage room.
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TrackNutz

105 posts

15 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Wow. I got nothing from that. Maybe trying to use as many new journalist words as possible?

I want this car to be an affordable GT3 Touring and I'm no more the wiser.

BrotherMouzone

2,107 posts

113 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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ocrx8 said:
Hellish article to read.
+1

Who wrote this article?

givablondabone

2,772 posts

94 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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AndrewNR said:
Not much quicker than a Golf R
I'm suspecting tongue in cheek?

f1ten

1,784 posts

92 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Agree. It's a gap filler to get people interested in a standard 991. The gearing sounds crap as does the 7th speed ratio.

ORD said:
I don't even begin to understand this car. A downtuned turbo engine in a heavy car with the back seats taken out (for no obvious reason).

Ares

8,017 posts

59 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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370-bhp for £85k base? Wow.

The drive had better be awesome.

To think that people slam the Lotus Exige 430 for being poor VFM and the £60k £430bhp BMW M4 for being underpowered.

Ares

8,017 posts

59 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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SidewaysSi said:
What does his offer over the Exige 430 on the other thread? Maybe a bit more luggage room.
Half the performance?
Far higher running costs?

...oh and a badge wink

NJJ

145 posts

19 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Didn't understand the car before reading this article let alone afterwards. Still none the wiser......

Wills2

15,382 posts

114 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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ORD said:
I don't even begin to understand this car. A downtuned turbo engine in a heavy car with the back seats taken out (for no obvious reason).
Same weight as my old 997.2 C2S and quicker (just a tad mind) I'd love one if I was looking for a new car I'd have one manual + buckets and LED lights.

Seats are a no cost option so no need to be upset/puzzled about them not being there same with the PCM.







big_rob_sydney

2,236 posts

133 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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Confusing article. I would ask the writer to be clearer.

As for the car itself, I've just lost all interest. Seems like another week another model. I dont know if this is a cynical attempt by Porsche to move more metal by churning out yet another minor variant.

Whatever.

As someone else wrote, if I were after a 2 seater, Lotus would be high on the list. If I wanted a 4 seater around this space, the Nissan GTR would be it. I see no point in Porsche at this level.

Mr Tom

470 posts

80 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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So it’s a lightened (but not that light) more focussed 911. But has a less powerful engine and is called touring suggesting you tour in it... but it has no satnav and no sound deadening. I’m an confused with both the car and the article.

Kawasicki

5,826 posts

174 months

Monday 18th December 2017
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This will be sought after in the future.

I'd love one.

Didn't notice article was difficult to read, either.

pmr01

178 posts

89 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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chappardababbar said:
Whilst i appreciate that this is free content, and I am very grateful for it, I found this article very difficult to read. Only compelled to make a point in the comments because I was so looking forward to reading this review.
Good point, well made.

cmoose

43,869 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Xaero said:
Have to agree with these unfortunately. Was a needlessly difficult article to read.
Cackett can turn a phrase but I dare say lacks discipline / ability to pace his writing for readability and rhythm and filter out the worst excesses of his tendency to over write. Likewise PH seemingly lacks the editorial gumption to put a cap on his content.

If varied his sentence length more, reduced the pathologically flowery prose by about 60 per cent, injected a lightness of touch and a dose of deprecation, well...! Think he's definitely capable of some really good writing, but this crap is frankly out of control and the net practical result is that his content is borderline unreadable dross and teetering on the edge of self parody. Well, I say teetering...!

davidc1

645 posts

101 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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Dan trent needed to write this.

SidewaysSi

5,170 posts

173 months

Tuesday 19th December 2017
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davidc1 said:
Dan trent needed to write this.
I think anyone on this planet would have done a better job.