RE: PH 2017: Shed of the year

[PoopahScoopah]

givablondabone said:

BricktopST205 said:

Bought a 9-5 as a stop gap but have fallen in love with it. Sure it will not win at nurburg but it is a perfect daily. Adequate power (Near enough 300HP with a remap) and comfy as anything. Paid £1900 for my example 3 years ago. Still going strong and so tough and reliable.

It takes something to drive a 12 year old car non stop 1300 miles across Europe and hitting speeds in excess of 150mph on the Autobahn, 3 up with a boot full of holiday gear. It is a shame Saab were so mismanaged as they were great cars. Volvo's are obviously the closest but lack the sledge hammer punch Saabs offered. Mines currently on 134k and still feels great inside.

I hate to be pedantic but....................

You will not get 300 bhp with a remap. The aero is very restricted by the standard dp. A remap only gives very little. You need an uprated fpr, a 3" dp , BO valve and a remap. Then you will have around 300bhp. Ask me how I know........

I also hate to be pedantic (actually, that's a lie, I bloody love to) but the standard BOV is perfectly sufficient for a "stage 3" remap to 300bhp. But otherwise you are on the money.

[Scottie - NW]

And I still recommend staying clear of LPG converted cars...at least at shed level

[Arnold Cunningham]

Anyway, back to the article - a decent enough selection of sheds, actually.

[BricktopST205]

givablondabone said:

I hate to be pedantic but....................

You will not get 300 bhp with a remap. The aero is very restricted by the standard dp. A remap only gives very little. You need an uprated fpr, a 3" dp , BO valve and a remap. Then you will have around 300bhp. Ask me how I know........

Being pedantic i never said 300BHP. I said "near enough" 300BHP as it sounds better than saying 280BHP :P

[ElectricPics]

PoopahScoopah said:

ElectricPics said:

kambites said:

ElectricPics said:

What's that between the cam cover....

The ignition coils are under there.

You don't say? I was pointing out that it is in fact a direct injection cassette.

I'm assuming (perhaps wrongly) that as a PH member you do understand the difference between ignition and injection, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and further assume that you've simply not recovered from too much Christmas cheer and have not yet regained the ability to read very well.







Either that, or you're just a tt.

Edited by PoopahScoopah on Friday 29th December 23:02

fk me. You're right. Far too much Christmas uncheer and a serious dose of man flu have had had my head spinning...

[givablondabone]

PoopahScoopah said:

I also hate to be pedantic (actually, that's a lie, I bloody love to) but the standard BOV is perfectly sufficient for a "stage 3" remap to 300bhp. But otherwise you are on the money.

Fair enough people but all these little differences add up. With the stage 3 mods I mentioned, I have around 313bhp, plus I have an uprated IC (313 bhp measured before fitting) to keep things cool for reliability. That won't affect power too much but may add a few torques. Plus my car is a saloon and a manual. 313 bhp with a manual 'boxed saloon will feel very different to an auto 280 bhp wagon. Anyway I am glad you like your Saabs because it appears many don't, at least until they reach shed money it seems.

Happy new year.

[Arnold Cunningham]

Have we met? I sold my old Saab 9-5 aero hot to a chap who had a stage 3 tuned one. When I asked him how well his stage 3 one went, He looked across at the cars under the covers in the garage and said "it'll beat them". I think not, sir. lol

[givablondabone]

Arnold Cunningham said:

Have we met? I sold my old Saab 9-5 aero hot to a chap who had a stage 3 tuned one. When I asked him how well his stage 3 one went, He looked across at the cars under the covers in the garage and said "it'll beat them". I think not, sir. lol

Mine will definitely beat your Defender..............................

[Arnold Cunningham]

[pSyCoSiS]

Still something alluring about an old 9-5 Aero HOT.

I bought one earlier this year from a SAAB specialist. On way home, the oil light came on. He drove over to me, gave me a courtesy 9-5 and took that away to repair.

He changed the oil & filter, and cleaned the oil level sensor at bottom of sump that usually get sludged up. Dropped car off to me, and a few hours later, the light came on again and it had a tapping sound. He collected it and gave me full refund. Shame that, as it was a lovely example otherwise, black with cream leather, 17" 3 spoke wheels and had good pull from the engine.

The interiors are solid in these and the cabin is a joy to complete a long journey in.

[Arnold Cunningham]

My current one is black with black leather. Not maxxed out on the options (many of the nice things on the earlier ones became optional on the later ones, sadly). It's a comfortable enough place to be though.

[givablondabone]

They certainly are comfortable. Mine........................


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Sorry couldn't help it

[jagnet]

givablondabone said:

PoopahScoopah said:

I also hate to be pedantic (actually, that's a lie, I bloody love to) but the standard BOV is perfectly sufficient for a "stage 3" remap to 300bhp. But otherwise you are on the money.

Fair enough people but all these little differences add up.

Not in the case of stock v aftermarket recirc valve. The OE Saab valve is more than capable of remaining closed under maximum boost conditions from the stock TD04 turbo, and if it's closed then you're not going to get any additional peak power from it being any more closed. An old leaky valve can certainly lose you power, but a new OE replacement one will sort that just as well as a new aftermarket one will.

[Arnold Cunningham]

A life lesson, right there. And, ironically, I've got a new BOV on order too as mine appears to be making farty noises at 2500 rpm.

jagnet said:

An old leaky valve can certainly lose you power...

[richinlondon]

Having launched in to the world of The Shed this year with a 2001 Saab 93 convertible I can vouch for their virtues. 2001, 114k miles, great condition and two owners for £1100. Bit of scuttle shake over uneven surfaces but I think of it a bit like a dog shaking water off its coat...

Was going to be a one year cheapy convertible but I think i’ll keep for some time now

[givablondabone]

Arnold Cunningham said:

A life lesson, right there. And, ironically, I've got a new BOV on order too as mine appears to be making farty noises at 2500 rpm.

jagnet said:

An old leaky valve can certainly lose you power...

Agreed, but changing it whilst looking for more power will help prevent it leaking in the future if the old one is tired. Preventative maintenance is always a good idea.

[DippedHeadlights]

Shed inspired me to look at 95 Aeros again earlier this year and I ended up buying one in September (a little bit more than shed money but still very cheap alongside alternatives) and what alternatives are there ? I wanted a big powerful auto but don't do diesel. Had Subarus (Outback) and Lexus RX in the past but wanted something quicker and decided I didn't really need 4WD.
Mine is a 2005 with lots of options - last before the "Dame Edna" version.
I've changed the subframe bushes (which made a huge difference around corners) a parking sensor and the 4mm hoses that are to do with turbo pressure (there are about 3metres of them under the bonnet). All simple straight forward spannering, it has the feel of well built and reliable, time will tell. I have introduced it to Mr Bluetooth for phone and audio. The factory fit CD changer audio in mine is "prestige" Harman Kardon and very good.
It's very practical, and fast, just back from a very enjoyable drive to mid Wales to pick up a rotovator !
The power delivery, especially in sport mode is almost Tesla like. It's overtaking ability, that surge of power, on A roads at A road speeds is tremendous although the chassis struggles to handle it and I don't expect the tyres to last long. The throttle is of course a simple cable and although it has ABS and traction they don't get in the way as much as modern stuff.
The fact it's about the same width as a modern small hatch makes it very threadable in city traffic and it doesn't seem to have the same negative imagine as an equivalent age German.
There really is a lot to like and expect to be keeping it for some time and will take it on a Euro trip next year. The overall MPG around 28 is very acceptable.

[moustache]

I'm chuffed this is shed of the year. I LOVE my 9-5 Aero estate to bits, but there always seemed to be love and hatred in equal measure.

If you can see past its faults, which in all honesty, you'd expect from any 15 year old car (mines an '03), then there's little else out there for the money.

I researched this the other day, and worked out that mine is a manual estate and worth about £6-800 (good condition, but rusty rear arches). However, even in top condition, it's still a £1000 car. What else has 275bhp with a remap, heated leather seats and a great stereo (not sure why the original thread said the stereo was crap).

[jagnet]

DippedHeadlights said:

Shed inspired me to look at 95 Aeros again earlier this year and I ended up buying one in September (a little bit more than shed money but still very cheap alongside alternatives) and what alternatives are there ?

Every now and then I'll think about alternatives to my Saab and I just can't think of anything suitable that could replace it and noticeably improve on what the Saab offers, hence it'll be getting some more shiny new bits thrown at it in the spring.

Re the throttle cable: it does have a cable to the throttle body but the throttle itself is electronically operated.

DippedHeadlights said:

There really is a lot to like and expect to be keeping it for some time and will take it on a Euro trip next year.

You should enjoy it Whenever we head across the channel it's in the Saab and it's very much in its element over there, ticking off the miles to our destination in comfort. Our last trip was 3600 miles there and back and the only grumbles it had was a vacuum hose coming off the throttle body (easily pushed back on) and a brief flash of the check engine light as the torrential rain through France and Belgium actually managed to throw the MAF readings out of expected range. That's the only time I've had that happen, but the rain was ridiculously heavy and the motorway surface absolutely awash. We couldn't even see the lane markings and I now really appreciate the system of cats' eyes on UK motorways.

[dinkel]

A Saab... really?