RE: Skoda Superb Estate 280 Sportline: PH Fleet

[kambites]

CO2000 said:

Indeed but maybe to most its a problem but to some its a good thing, I just hate long gearing...

For me it purely depends on the car. A sports car with hugely long gears is idiotic (yes I'm looking at you Porsche) but a big powerful barge which is sitting at 3000+ rpm on the motorway is equally stupid.

[loudlashadjuster]

Shakermaker said:

One of the early PH Fleet reviews did question why it didn't have the 7-speed DSG box fitted to it as most other cars in the family already have, but supposed it was due to keeping the 0-60 times looking better?

I understand it's because the older 7-speed DSG (dry clutch?) is limited to 250 Nm, the wet clutch (?) 6-speed's rating is 350 Nm.

The newer 7-speed as used in the Bi-TDI cars etc. can handle much more, something like 500 Nm, but that bit of the toybox is off limits for Skoda for the moment it seems.

Kambites is right though, the gearing is a bit short, particularly noticeable in the higher gears. It's just about refined enough to mean you don't really notice it after a while, but it did grate for the first few weeks.

It's still an excellent continent muncher though, done a few long trips in it so far and it's perfectly happy at well over 200 kph for long periods. The old car hack cliche about stepping out after 500 miles and feeling fresh as a daisy definitely applies.

Edited by loudlashadjuster on Wednesday 3rd January 20:09

[thelawnet1]

Scottie - NW said:

Twoshoe said:

Scottie - NW said:

thelawnet1 said:

well let's see:

1. a 335d runs on diesel, this is petrol, so not comparable
2. a Superb is the size of a 5-series, so not comparable
3. a 530i (which is slower than this) STARTS at £43,110, which is £8,330 more than the Superb 280.
4. the Superb is 4x4, the 530i is not.

Apart form that, yeah.

So you are saying they are not comparable...whilst comparing them...

Semantics. Maybe 'similar' would have been better than 'comparable'.

It's not just semantics though. They are comparable cars with lots of similarities. I'd certainly consider both as options, I normally buy a 3 year old estate for the daily, and would consider either 3/5 series/Superb size, and both petrol/diesel and so on, so to me they are comparable.

Yes but a 5-series is £8k more than a 3-series, and they still sell plenty of 5-series. Clearly many buyers consider both, but it's not really a very good argument to say that you could get a smaller lower-specced BMW for the same price, when the same applies to a BMW buyer - there's also a smaller lower-specced BMW available.

[ahenners]

loudlashadjuster said:

I understand it's because the older 7-speed DSG (dry clutch?) is limited to 250 Nm, the wet clutch (?) 6-speed's rating is 350 Nm.

The newer 7-speed as used in the Bi-TDI cars etc. can handle much more, something like 500 Nm, but that bit of the toybox is off limits for Skoda for the moment it seems.

Edited by loudlashadjuster on Wednesday 3rd January 20:09

There's a 7 speed wet clutch already available to Skoda. Was first utilised in the VRS 245 Octavia. Might make an appearance in the facelifted Superb.

[loudlashadjuster]

ahenners said:

There's a 7 speed wet clutch already available to Skoda. Was first utilised in the VRS 245 Octavia. Might make an appearance in the facelifted Superb.

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