RE: McLaren Senna on the road!

RE: McLaren Senna on the road!

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D200

514 posts

147 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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seefarr said:
Batman?
Ali G?

PunterCam

1,069 posts

195 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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givablondabone said:
hondansx said:
I am glad most people recognise it for the atrocity as it is. For the odd person who claims to like it due it's function, then bear in mind this car no purpose - they are not race cars, and people won't use them as track day cars, and if anyone does, it won' be much fun getting stuck behind someone each and every lap.

Which begs the question that, if you're really into cars, why not just buy an actual race car and go racing.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot agree with this. Fair play if you don't like it for the way it looks. That's subjective after all but..................

To stretch your other point a little further what's the point of anything that can break the national speed limit or do 0-60 in less than, say, 10 seconds for example? No-one needs it do they after all?

I am an enthusiast and I for one am very glad people make bonkers cars irrespective of whether they are attainable or not. Cars like the Senna are to the uber rich the same as an RS Focus/CTR etc etc are to the enthusiast man in the street.
They could've made this car look like a mondeo, or a beetle, or a daytona and kept those impressive acceleration numbers. All this aero (which won't work on the street anyway, firstly because you can't go fast enough, and secondly because the whole car will be raised up to stop it grounding itself) just serves to make it hideous. For no reason. It's actually pointless.

It'll set some "impressive" lap times when magazines lap it, and then what? Negotiate your way around some 205's and an M3 on a track day?

Ugly for no reason - we're all enthusiasts, spot the turd. Looks like nothing more than a money spinner for McLaren.

redroadster

1,737 posts

232 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Wait till tesla sits at side of traffic lights next to you and see if your big spoiler helps not

havoc

30,038 posts

235 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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givablondabone said:
hondansx said:
I am glad most people recognise it for the atrocity as it is. For the odd person who claims to like it due it's function, then bear in mind this car no purpose - they are not race cars, and people won't use them as track day cars, and if anyone does, it won' be much fun getting stuck behind someone each and every lap.

Which begs the question that, if you're really into cars, why not just buy an actual race car and go racing.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot agree with this. Fair play if you don't like it for the way it looks. That's subjective after all but..................

To stretch your other point a little further what's the point of anything that can break the national speed limit or do 0-60 in less than, say, 10 seconds for example? No-one needs it do they after all?

I am an enthusiast and I for one am very glad people make bonkers cars irrespective of whether they are attainable or not. Cars like the Senna are to the uber rich the same as an RS Focus/CTR etc etc are to the enthusiast man in the street.
No, they're not. The FRS / CTR / Cayman GT4 / M4 are all 'aspirational', sure...but they're fit-for-purpose.

This...is...erm...a trackday car for someone who doesn't want the hassle, physical effort and involvement of a single-seater. Which is to say almost nobody, as those ultra-rich petrolheads tend to buy ex-F1 cars as noted above, or ex-GT1/2/3 racers on a slightly lower budget (650S GT racer, restrictor removed, will show this a very clean pair of heels I strongly suspect...)

Or it's a trinket, a Veblen good writ ultra-large - a wannabe-racer version of the Chiron, effectively, for someone to drive down the King's Road revelling in all the smartphone attention. Without the Chiron's "do everything flexibility" USP.

Toilet Duck

1,329 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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AyBee said:
Any PH photoshop experts fancy photoshopping out the rear wing? Reckon it would look awesome without!
Here you go mate



AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Toilet Duck said:
AyBee said:
Any PH photoshop experts fancy photoshopping out the rear wing? Reckon it would look awesome without!
Here you go mate

Already looks better thumbup

kambites

67,552 posts

221 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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I'd tend to agree with the people struggling to see any point in it... but cars like this are never rational purchases. I somehow doubt they'll struggle to sell them.

jeremyc

23,432 posts

284 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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E65Ross

35,051 posts

212 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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PH is turning far too sensible these days. Just because a car doesn't have a fit "purpose" or doesn't get good MPG it's pointless.

Whatever happened to those who just enjoy cars for the sake of it? I thought this was a car enthusiasts site, obviously not!

wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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I don't envy supercar designers/manufacturers.

This car has to surpass the P1 in a game of Top Trumps. It has to be usable on the road. It has to conform to road regulations for multiple countries. It costs 5x as much as a trackday special that will run rings around it, and as much as a decent real race car from a bygone age that will be far more visceral on a track at the same pace.

It's kinda nice knowing that the sweet spot of "fast road cars" is moving into less rarefied territory.

Toilet Duck

1,329 posts

185 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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AyBee said:
Already looks better thumbup
have another then wink



Ruskins

221 posts

121 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Looks better in black than Playmobil orange.

wst

3,494 posts

161 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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jeremyc] said:
I really, really like that exhaust. Blown wings are cool.

thegreenhell

15,285 posts

219 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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jeremyc said:
Will the production version have the number plates taped to the front and rear screens as well? It looks like the designers have forgotten to leave any space for them.

SteelySteve

350 posts

164 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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I can't help feeling that popping this in the "ultimate series" is a bit of a con.

Yes it may be as fast as a P1, but the P1 was built several years ago from the ground up to be a bona fide, limited run game changer, and therefore, just like the F1, it deserves its iconic hypercar status.

The Senna is quite obviously a 720s with a remap and a bodykit, which is great for the manufacturer as there is no need to create a new car, thus avoiding a great deal of expense in conformity to various regulations.

Rip off

Dave Hedgehog

14,549 posts

204 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Ruskins said:
Looks better in black than Playmobil orange.
black is a very good colour for hiding dodgy styling

Punio

70 posts

83 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Looks very good in black, ugly but ugly can still look good... I think lol

cookie1600

2,109 posts

161 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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HorneyMX5 said:
I think a lot of people miss the point of cars like these. They’re not a “why should we build it?” Car, but a “Well build it because we can.” Car.
More likely it's 'what do our ultra-rich clients want that only a limited number of people can buy"?

Rolls Royce/Bentley, Ferrari and Aston Martin were most kept solvent in the 90's by the Brunei Royal Family's desires, when money was no object.

thesmurfs

117 posts

96 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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Not gonna lie it's a horrible looking car.

Denver09

134 posts

187 months

Thursday 4th January 2018
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I suspect the Germans might ignore the styling and nod their appreciation of the function over form but Modena must be laughing their asses off!

McLaren are addressing a tiny handful of buyers with this car who will buy anything just because it has a big price tag. Fairly sure there will be an 'update' to the Senna very soon.