RE: McLaren Senna on the road!
Discussion
givablondabone said:
hondansx said:
I am glad most people recognise it for the atrocity as it is. For the odd person who claims to like it due it's function, then bear in mind this car no purpose - they are not race cars, and people won't use them as track day cars, and if anyone does, it won' be much fun getting stuck behind someone each and every lap.
Which begs the question that, if you're really into cars, why not just buy an actual race car and go racing.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot agree with this. Fair play if you don't like it for the way it looks. That's subjective after all but..................Which begs the question that, if you're really into cars, why not just buy an actual race car and go racing.
To stretch your other point a little further what's the point of anything that can break the national speed limit or do 0-60 in less than, say, 10 seconds for example? No-one needs it do they after all?
I am an enthusiast and I for one am very glad people make bonkers cars irrespective of whether they are attainable or not. Cars like the Senna are to the uber rich the same as an RS Focus/CTR etc etc are to the enthusiast man in the street.
It'll set some "impressive" lap times when magazines lap it, and then what? Negotiate your way around some 205's and an M3 on a track day?
Ugly for no reason - we're all enthusiasts, spot the turd. Looks like nothing more than a money spinner for McLaren.
givablondabone said:
hondansx said:
I am glad most people recognise it for the atrocity as it is. For the odd person who claims to like it due it's function, then bear in mind this car no purpose - they are not race cars, and people won't use them as track day cars, and if anyone does, it won' be much fun getting stuck behind someone each and every lap.
Which begs the question that, if you're really into cars, why not just buy an actual race car and go racing.
I'm sorry but I simply cannot agree with this. Fair play if you don't like it for the way it looks. That's subjective after all but..................Which begs the question that, if you're really into cars, why not just buy an actual race car and go racing.
To stretch your other point a little further what's the point of anything that can break the national speed limit or do 0-60 in less than, say, 10 seconds for example? No-one needs it do they after all?
I am an enthusiast and I for one am very glad people make bonkers cars irrespective of whether they are attainable or not. Cars like the Senna are to the uber rich the same as an RS Focus/CTR etc etc are to the enthusiast man in the street.
This...is...erm...a trackday car for someone who doesn't want the hassle, physical effort and involvement of a single-seater. Which is to say almost nobody, as those ultra-rich petrolheads tend to buy ex-F1 cars as noted above, or ex-GT1/2/3 racers on a slightly lower budget (650S GT racer, restrictor removed, will show this a very clean pair of heels I strongly suspect...)
Or it's a trinket, a Veblen good writ ultra-large - a wannabe-racer version of the Chiron, effectively, for someone to drive down the King's Road revelling in all the smartphone attention. Without the Chiron's "do everything flexibility" USP.
I don't envy supercar designers/manufacturers.
This car has to surpass the P1 in a game of Top Trumps. It has to be usable on the road. It has to conform to road regulations for multiple countries. It costs 5x as much as a trackday special that will run rings around it, and as much as a decent real race car from a bygone age that will be far more visceral on a track at the same pace.
It's kinda nice knowing that the sweet spot of "fast road cars" is moving into less rarefied territory.
This car has to surpass the P1 in a game of Top Trumps. It has to be usable on the road. It has to conform to road regulations for multiple countries. It costs 5x as much as a trackday special that will run rings around it, and as much as a decent real race car from a bygone age that will be far more visceral on a track at the same pace.
It's kinda nice knowing that the sweet spot of "fast road cars" is moving into less rarefied territory.
jeremyc said:
Will the production version have the number plates taped to the front and rear screens as well? It looks like the designers have forgotten to leave any space for them.I can't help feeling that popping this in the "ultimate series" is a bit of a con.
Yes it may be as fast as a P1, but the P1 was built several years ago from the ground up to be a bona fide, limited run game changer, and therefore, just like the F1, it deserves its iconic hypercar status.
The Senna is quite obviously a 720s with a remap and a bodykit, which is great for the manufacturer as there is no need to create a new car, thus avoiding a great deal of expense in conformity to various regulations.
Rip off
HorneyMX5 said:
I think a lot of people miss the point of cars like these. They’re not a “why should we build it?” Car, but a “Well build it because we can.” Car.
More likely it's 'what do our ultra-rich clients want that only a limited number of people can buy"?Rolls Royce/Bentley, Ferrari and Aston Martin were most kept solvent in the 90's by the Brunei Royal Family's desires, when money was no object.
I suspect the Germans might ignore the styling and nod their appreciation of the function over form but Modena must be laughing their asses off!
McLaren are addressing a tiny handful of buyers with this car who will buy anything just because it has a big price tag. Fairly sure there will be an 'update' to the Senna very soon.
McLaren are addressing a tiny handful of buyers with this car who will buy anything just because it has a big price tag. Fairly sure there will be an 'update' to the Senna very soon.
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