Car Snobs - I Despise Them
Discussion
When I was 18, all I cared about was where my next beer and lay were coming from. Didn't give a toss what people thought of my chariots.
Why are people so precious these days, and over something about as important as a stubborn skid mark clinging to the U bend? And people so young, too? Quite sad really.
Why are people so precious these days, and over something about as important as a stubborn skid mark clinging to the U bend? And people so young, too? Quite sad really.
I can empathise with OP's friends here with their Golf R's at 18 years old. I mean I was fortunate enough to drive a 10 year old Skoda around, with a tape player, and was the envy of all my friends.
If anyone would like an insight into how the other half lived in their ivy towers back in their late teens then do let me know...
If anyone would like an insight into how the other half lived in their ivy towers back in their late teens then do let me know...
PixelpeepS3 said:
Why does every anti-lease post seem bitter?
seriously - who gives a flying fk how people are funding their cars? Its up to them right?
'it puts cars in the reach of others that wouldn't normally be able to afford them' - so fking what?
'21 year olds shouldn't have access to those powerful cars" - really? last time i checked you can get a 500bhp 200mph v10 M5 for about £15k, not to mention the shed-load of £3k Subarus pushing out 300+bhp
Makes a nice change from them screaming around in their redtop converted 'still 1.2 on the logbook' Corsas.
'my neighbor/friend has a nice car that he ordinarily wouldn't be able to afford' - be fking happy for them you miserable dinosaur.
Can we knock this recycled bks on the head now? Please?
I do wonder if these are the real snobs and the real image-centred and shallow car buyers, and they're upset and jealous that someone with less money and status can buy a 'prestige car' that's 'better' than theirs. I'm struggling to think of another reason someone would be so enraged that a 22 year old on £30k a year can drive an Audi S4 or a 335i. I know of 22 year old trainees with AMGs and I know 50+ multi-millionaires with old Fords; neither really evoke any emotion in me at all; they've made their own choices and who am I to judge? Even if I did choose to judge (which I don't), how would I judge them?! There's no such thing as an absolute scale of achievement in life. Even if you do jump on the peacock band wagon and wear massive watches and designer clothes, that's just something that interests some people and it doesn't affect me at all, so why would I comment on it?seriously - who gives a flying fk how people are funding their cars? Its up to them right?
'it puts cars in the reach of others that wouldn't normally be able to afford them' - so fking what?
'21 year olds shouldn't have access to those powerful cars" - really? last time i checked you can get a 500bhp 200mph v10 M5 for about £15k, not to mention the shed-load of £3k Subarus pushing out 300+bhp
Makes a nice change from them screaming around in their redtop converted 'still 1.2 on the logbook' Corsas.
'my neighbor/friend has a nice car that he ordinarily wouldn't be able to afford' - be fking happy for them you miserable dinosaur.
Can we knock this recycled bks on the head now? Please?
I sold my business and now live on income derived from investments, so in effect I’m living on dividends from shares and bonds.
If I paid cash for my cars I would have to use some capital thus reducing income. Fair enough in a way but what about when the car needs changing again - and again? Far better for me to use PCP and budget for the payments from income. That way I know I can carry on changing my cars when I want or need to.
I paid 35% deposit on my current car so I reckon there would be some equity even if I chopped it in now just 10 months after purchase.
Not everyone is using PCP to buy stuff they can’t afford. Seriously where is the evidence for this opinion?
If I paid cash for my cars I would have to use some capital thus reducing income. Fair enough in a way but what about when the car needs changing again - and again? Far better for me to use PCP and budget for the payments from income. That way I know I can carry on changing my cars when I want or need to.
I paid 35% deposit on my current car so I reckon there would be some equity even if I chopped it in now just 10 months after purchase.
Not everyone is using PCP to buy stuff they can’t afford. Seriously where is the evidence for this opinion?
bad company said:
Not everyone is using PCP to buy stuff they can’t afford. Seriously where is the evidence for this opinion?
There is none, its petty jealousy, envious of something someone else has so justifies it by claiming they cant afford it. People should mind their own business and worry less about other peoples
bad company said:
I sold my business and now live on income derived from investments, so in effect I’m living on dividends from shares and bonds.
If I paid cash for my cars I would have to use some capital thus reducing income. Fair enough in a way but what about when the car needs changing again - and again? Far better for me to use PCP and budget for the payments from income. That way I know I can carry on changing my cars when I want or need to.
I paid 35% deposit on my current car so I reckon there would be some equity even if I chopped it in now just 10 months after purchase.
Not everyone is using PCP to buy stuff they can’t afford. Seriously where is the evidence for this opinion?
This is why the "wealthy" still get mortgages for houses. Pointless having capital tied up in assets if you do not need to. If I paid cash for my cars I would have to use some capital thus reducing income. Fair enough in a way but what about when the car needs changing again - and again? Far better for me to use PCP and budget for the payments from income. That way I know I can carry on changing my cars when I want or need to.
I paid 35% deposit on my current car so I reckon there would be some equity even if I chopped it in now just 10 months after purchase.
Not everyone is using PCP to buy stuff they can’t afford. Seriously where is the evidence for this opinion?
Leasing as an idea appeals to me, but it is cheaper for me to buy a second hand version of the car than to lease a new one, as long as I buy at about 7 or 8 years of age. If I could afford to lease I would.
lyonspride said:
TarpaTow said:
It probably isn't that people look down on you just because you have a Ford, and a little Fiesta at that. Having started with a Peugeot but always wanted to be in a BM it's just that when you're in a proper quality ultimate driving machine you just know that other drivers are looking enviously at you.
It's a great feeling when I'm in the BM and I just know that people are looking at me and know how successful I've been, even the ones who deliberately look the other way.
Having a great car really impresses on others the calibre of person they're dealing with, people that are successful in closing deals, have great taste and the financial ability to get behind the wheel of a status symbol. Why do you think Presidents etc are driven around in big limousines like 7-series BMs and not little Fiestas or Aygos etc.
I wouldn't necessarily look down on you in your car but I suppose the fact that I was in a BM might mean you were subconsciously looking up to me and that's understandable but it's only because you recognise the messages that a BM delivers.
Anyway, once you're a bit older and in your 20s like me you'll be able to get into a decent car and won't feel quite so bad.
If you speak to one of your local BM sales executives now, they'll be able to start working with you in a personal relationship manager type of way to get you into a better car as you get a bit older.
Just calling your Fiesta a ST170 doesn't really get away from the fact that it's a Ford, not a BM or Maserati but I suppose might make you feel better. Don't worry about that, I used to refer to my second Peugeot as a 206CC as I had the drop top sports and Peugeot wouldn't make the right impression in conversation.
And girls would be more impressed if you said you drove a BM than an ST.
I'm sorry but you really have no idea...... You talk like a certain infamous forum poster known as DarkMatter, who became a total laughing stock on several forums a few years ago.It's a great feeling when I'm in the BM and I just know that people are looking at me and know how successful I've been, even the ones who deliberately look the other way.
Having a great car really impresses on others the calibre of person they're dealing with, people that are successful in closing deals, have great taste and the financial ability to get behind the wheel of a status symbol. Why do you think Presidents etc are driven around in big limousines like 7-series BMs and not little Fiestas or Aygos etc.
I wouldn't necessarily look down on you in your car but I suppose the fact that I was in a BM might mean you were subconsciously looking up to me and that's understandable but it's only because you recognise the messages that a BM delivers.
Anyway, once you're a bit older and in your 20s like me you'll be able to get into a decent car and won't feel quite so bad.
If you speak to one of your local BM sales executives now, they'll be able to start working with you in a personal relationship manager type of way to get you into a better car as you get a bit older.
Just calling your Fiesta a ST170 doesn't really get away from the fact that it's a Ford, not a BM or Maserati but I suppose might make you feel better. Don't worry about that, I used to refer to my second Peugeot as a 206CC as I had the drop top sports and Peugeot wouldn't make the right impression in conversation.
And girls would be more impressed if you said you drove a BM than an ST.
I can't honestly say i've ever thought this way, but I imagine most people grow out of it when life smacks them in the face.
Edited by Richard-390a0 on Tuesday 16th January 14:24
F1GTRUeno said:
aaron_2000 said:
the same generic blue leased Golf R as everyone else and I couldn't stomach driving the same leased Ibiza FR as everyone my age either
Car snobs - I despise them.Edited by classicyanktanks on Tuesday 16th January 14:49
RobM77 said:
I know 50+ multi-millionaires with old Fords;
Ok that's fine only because they have nothing to prove and are not interested in cars anyway. Many drive the 10 year old beat up Volvo.... a true indication of wealth whispering money shouting.What we are talking about here though is the increasingly common snob scenario where people try vainly to impress others by overstretching themselves on the monthlies for a car they really have no interest in other than the perceived laughable premium value attached to the badge to impress the neighbours. Laughable.
Lots of defensive bullst on this thread btw.
And people saying they pcp as it is easier to change car.....just sell the bloody thing lol.
RobM77 said:
PixelpeepS3 said:
Why does every anti-lease post seem bitter?
seriously - who gives a flying fk how people are funding their cars? Its up to them right?
'it puts cars in the reach of others that wouldn't normally be able to afford them' - so fking what?
'21 year olds shouldn't have access to those powerful cars" - really? last time i checked you can get a 500bhp 200mph v10 M5 for about £15k, not to mention the shed-load of £3k Subarus pushing out 300+bhp
Makes a nice change from them screaming around in their redtop converted 'still 1.2 on the logbook' Corsas.
'my neighbor/friend has a nice car that he ordinarily wouldn't be able to afford' - be fking happy for them you miserable dinosaur.
Can we knock this recycled bks on the head now? Please?
I do wonder if these are the real snobs and the real image-centred and shallow car buyers, and they're upset and jealous that someone with less money and status can buy a 'prestige car' that's 'better' than theirs. I'm struggling to think of another reason someone would be so enraged that a 22 year old on £30k a year can drive an Audi S4 or a 335i. I know of 22 year old trainees with AMGs and I know 50+ multi-millionaires with old Fords; neither really evoke any emotion in me at all; they've made their own choices and who am I to judge? Even if I did choose to judge (which I don't), how would I judge them?! There's no such thing as an absolute scale of achievement in life. Even if you do jump on the peacock band wagon and wear massive watches and designer clothes, that's just something that interests some people and it doesn't affect me at all, so why would I comment on it?seriously - who gives a flying fk how people are funding their cars? Its up to them right?
'it puts cars in the reach of others that wouldn't normally be able to afford them' - so fking what?
'21 year olds shouldn't have access to those powerful cars" - really? last time i checked you can get a 500bhp 200mph v10 M5 for about £15k, not to mention the shed-load of £3k Subarus pushing out 300+bhp
Makes a nice change from them screaming around in their redtop converted 'still 1.2 on the logbook' Corsas.
'my neighbor/friend has a nice car that he ordinarily wouldn't be able to afford' - be fking happy for them you miserable dinosaur.
Can we knock this recycled bks on the head now? Please?
Nearly every fking thread is turned into this bks.
av185 said:
RobM77 said:
I know 50+ multi-millionaires with old Fords;
Ok that's fine only because they have nothing to prove and are not interested in cars anyway. Many drive the 10 year old beat up Volvo.... a true indication of wealth whispering money shouting.What we are talking about here though is the increasingly common snob scenario where people try vainly to impress others by overstretching themselves on the monthlies for a car they really have no interest in other than the perceived laughable premium value attached to the badge to impress the neighbours. Laughable.
Lots of defensive bullst on this thread btw.
And people saying they pcp as it is easier to change car.....just sell the bloody thing lol.
Nanook said:
av185 said:
What we are talking about here though is the increasingly common snob scenario where people try vainly to impress others by overstretching themselves on the monthlies for a car they really have no interest in other than the perceived laughable premium value attached to the badge to impress the neighbours. Laughable.
I don't know anyone that fits this bill.Are these people really out there?
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