RE: Lotus Carlton: Spotted

RE: Lotus Carlton: Spotted

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NotNormal

2,359 posts

214 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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wobert said:
s m said:
wobert said:
I’m 99% certain the Cavalier never got beyond being an installation buck in the vehicle workshop.

I can say that with a degree of certainty as I was doing the turbocharger installation..... :-)
Do you know what stage the Calibra got to?
No Calibra version to my knowledge....
As I mentioned earlier, when I met up with Mike K last year and specifically brought up this topic he said original buck was the Cavalier but the final car was to be the Calibra. Got shelved due to a couple of reasons but mainly political wranglings with Opel and the financial dowturn which meant the Carlton didn't sell as many as envisaged. I felt a pang of dissapointment when he spoke as i got the impression he would have really liked to have continued with that project.

Edited by NotNormal on Saturday 20th January 09:04

cronos

71 posts

84 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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oobster said:
Spender? If so it was a Sierra Saphire Cosworth.
Thought spender had a Saab 900 turbo. Which got car bombed and replaced rather disappointingly for me with a Citroën XM.

B'stard Child

28,397 posts

246 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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cronos said:
oobster said:
Spender? If so it was a Sierra Saphire Cosworth.
Thought spender had a Saab 900 turbo. Which got car bombed and replaced rather disappointingly for me with a Citroën XM.
This one





Local Rag Info

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/north...


cronos

71 posts

84 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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B'stard Child said:
cronos said:
oobster said:
Spender? If so it was a Sierra Saphire Cosworth.
Thought spender had a Saab 900 turbo. Which got car bombed and replaced rather disappointingly for me with a Citroën XM.
This one





Local Rag Info

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/north...
Ah yes fair enough - stupid memory of mine. I was mixing it up with Leslie Grantham / Paradise Club which i suppose was the direct cockney equivalent of Spender.

7.01 on the youtube clip.

https://youtu.be/wY01ReSynnA?t=421

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Branch666 said:
The bloke who’s owns the military transport museum on Anglesey has two, one standard and one with 500bhp painted in a pearlescent paint (not my cup of tea!) both of them are on display and get used regular. Was over the moon when I saw them both.



Edited by Branch666 on Thursday 18th January 10:43


Edited by Branch666 on Thursday 18th January 10:45
Anglesey has always done well for these, there's the 2 you mention above even if one is now purple... then there was the one originally purchased by the local dealer principal who had to sell it when the franchise got taken off him, ended up being bought by my dentist who owned it until he passed away a couple of years back, lovely guy enjoyed my car chat with him on checkups! And there was another local car which was owned from new until a few years back think he did 100k on it over his ownership and there was a LHD Omega version which I used to see going over the bridge most days.


droopsnoot

11,933 posts

242 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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NotNormal said:
wobert said:
s m said:
wobert said:
I’m 99% certain the Cavalier never got beyond being an installation buck in the vehicle workshop.

I can say that with a degree of certainty as I was doing the turbocharger installation..... :-)
Do you know what stage the Calibra got to?
No Calibra version to my knowledge....
As I mentioned earlier, when I met up with Mike K last year and specifically brought up this topic he said original buck was the Cavalier but the final car was to be the Calibra. Got shelved due to a couple of reasons but mainly political wranglings with Opel and the financial dowturn which meant the Carlton didn't sell as many as envisaged. I felt a pang of dissapointment when he spoke as i got the impression he would have really liked to have continued with that project.

Edited by NotNormal on Saturday 20th January 09:04
Was there a Lotus Calibra but a trim level thing rather than a performance variant? I recall seeing something like that, perhaps in Auto Trader or the like. Might just have been a Calibra with badges of course.

IanJ9375

1,468 posts

216 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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droopsnoot said:
Was there a Lotus Calibra but a trim level thing rather than a performance variant? I recall seeing something like that, perhaps in Auto Trader or the like. Might just have been a Calibra with badges of course.
The only one that makes me think of is the "Tickford" version 26 cars made and only 6 surviving at the last count

http://www.tickfordownersclub.com/10calibra.php


cronos

71 posts

84 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Branch666 said:
The bloke who’s owns the military transport museum on Anglesey has two, one standard and one with 500bhp painted in a pearlescent paint (not my cup of tea!) both of them are on display and get used regular. Was over the moon when I saw them both.

I was an apprentice when I left school at a Vauxhall garage in Harrogate, we used to get one of these in for servicing. We used to have a ‘mark’ we tested quick cars against, we’d pull out on the bypass and see how quick we could get before the first gate on the left side of the road. This beat everything else we’d had in.
I was fresh out of school at the time and was aloud to bring all the cars in from the carpark into the garage when we closed. (I wasn’t aloud to test drive them). I was waiting all day to get the keys for this thing. I rang my mate that lived up the road told him to wait at the bottom of the road at 4.30.
He was sat in his nova looking in the rear view mirror as I came sideways out on to the road behind him, completely unintentional. I floored it before the car was straight and nearly pilled it up. We then went on a half hour blast in it together, had to do some serious begging to keep my job when I got back and the boss was stood waiting for me. He new all along what I was going to do so had been watching. The first properly quick car i ever drove and for this reason it’s one of my favourite cars ever.


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Edited by Branch666 on Thursday 18th January 10:45
Wonder if its the same dude. Liked their motors. I went in his younger bro's carlton GSi with cambered wheels but only ever heard about the Lotus...masham/Ripon.

http://www.lotus-carlton.co.uk/

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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I love the story about the ram raid Carlton, that was so fast the police Senators couldn't keep up, neither could the special force Sierra Cosworths. If only I had the money..

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
I love the story about the ram raid Carlton, that was so fast the police Senators couldn't keep up, neither could the special force Sierra Cosworths. If only I had the money..
Was that the gang who used to use a big 4x4, often a Range Rover, to smash in and then load it into the Carlton?
They went quiet after the Motorway helicopter chase - never got the car back did they ?


aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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s m said:
Was that the gang who used to use a big 4x4, often a Range Rover, to smash in and then load it into the Carlton?
They went quiet after the Motorway helicopter chase - never got the car back did they ?
Not sure about the 4x4. The car was never found, probably either sold off somewhere like Russia, chopped/burnt or it's sat in some garage somewhere. Here's the article though:


https://jalopnik.com/an-amazing-lotus-tuned-sedan-...

s m

23,223 posts

203 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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aaron_2000 said:
s m said:
Was that the gang who used to use a big 4x4, often a Range Rover, to smash in and then load it into the Carlton?
They went quiet after the Motorway helicopter chase - never got the car back did they ?
Not sure about the 4x4. The car was never found, probably either sold off somewhere like Russia, chopped/burnt or it's sat in some garage somewhere. Here's the article though:


https://jalopnik.com/an-amazing-lotus-tuned-sedan-...
Yes, I think it's the same one, used to be on the local news at the time and in papers/mags - in later raids they used two cars, a big 4x4 to smash into shops and then the Lotus Carlton to leg it with all the loot. ISTR a police helicopter chase in the early hours on the motorway.......

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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s m said:
Yes, I think it's the same one, used to be on the local news at the time and in papers/mags - in later raids they used two cars, a big 4x4 to smash into shops and then the Lotus Carlton to leg it with all the loot. ISTR a police helicopter chase in the early hours on the motorway.......
I like to think that crew have dulled into middle age, and one of them still has that LC buried in their garage. A better thought than it being burnt out or chopped for parts.

phumy

5,674 posts

237 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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phumy said:
You seen that one up for £150,000 on Autotrader? Been up a couple of years now

NotNormal

2,359 posts

214 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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phumy said:
Looks like values asking prices are on the up

ghost83

5,477 posts

190 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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I know this will get me flogged probably BUT I’ve never liked the lotus Carlton ok it goes well but I don’t like it’s loojs

phumy

5,674 posts

237 months

Wednesday 24th January 2018
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NotNormal said:
phumy said:
Looks like values asking prices are on the up
It appears the owner has valued it at that, whether he sells it at that is different, he still puts his value on it, you may call it asking price.