Wife stopped for illegal number plate...
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Hi all,
My wife was recently stopped by the police for an illegal number plate
The reason given was that the plate was 'cut down'
The plate is as it came from a company called fourdot, it is their ZERO plate and fully legal.
https://www.fourdotdesignerplates.co.uk/legal/lega...
If we contest it in court, do we have to attend and can we claim for costs if we win as my wife is a contractor and her day rate is more than the fine. She will obviously have to take the day off unpaid to attend court.
I can't see us not winning to be honest as the plate is 100% legal.
Thanks.
My wife was recently stopped by the police for an illegal number plate
The reason given was that the plate was 'cut down'
The plate is as it came from a company called fourdot, it is their ZERO plate and fully legal.
https://www.fourdotdesignerplates.co.uk/legal/lega...
If we contest it in court, do we have to attend and can we claim for costs if we win as my wife is a contractor and her day rate is more than the fine. She will obviously have to take the day off unpaid to attend court.
I can't see us not winning to be honest as the plate is 100% legal.
Thanks.
RA500 said:
If we contest it in court, do we have to attend and can we claim for costs if we win as my wife is a contractor and her day rate is more than the fine.
Thanks.
(1) If no oral evidence is needed, then your wife could just send a lawyer to argue about the plate. Otherwise your wife must attend. If she neither attends nor is represented she will probably be convicted. Thanks.
(2) Legal costs can be awarded but only if incurred. Loss of earnings are not awarded.
Breadvan72 said:
(1) If no oral evidence is needed, then your wife could just send a lawyer to argue about the plate. Otherwise your wife must attend. If she neither attends nor is represented she will probably be convicted.
(2) Legal costs can be awarded but only if incurred. Loss of earnings are not awarded.
So the best way to avoid it costing us money is to instruct a solicitor and go for legal costs? (2) Legal costs can be awarded but only if incurred. Loss of earnings are not awarded.
Is there a way of sorting it via post before it goes to court?
Does your number plate comply with the dimensions given in this leaflet?
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
If you plead not guilty unless you can satisfy the prosecutors that they are wrong you will very likely need to attend court.
I'd suggest you may also need something/someone from the company as your expert witness.
If you win you can ask for your costs.
You can ask for actual costs, not 'what I think I might have earned'
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/apply-f...
ETA. Appears you did have something of a 'get out of jail free' card but you've lost it.
I really must learn to type quicker!
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
If you plead not guilty unless you can satisfy the prosecutors that they are wrong you will very likely need to attend court.
I'd suggest you may also need something/someone from the company as your expert witness.
If you win you can ask for your costs.
You can ask for actual costs, not 'what I think I might have earned'
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/apply-f...
ETA. Appears you did have something of a 'get out of jail free' card but you've lost it.
I really must learn to type quicker!
Edited by paintman on Saturday 13th January 16:01
Breadvan72 said:
That plate looks dodgy. Pay up. Besides, having a personalised plate ought to be an imprisonable offence, so consider your wife lucky. I suppose it is an offence that carries its own punishment as a personalised plate is like a sign saying "I am a f
kwit".
kwit". Edited by Breadvan72 on Saturday 13th January 15:50
You don't like them then.... I really don't care, it was passed to me just before my dad passed away, on the condition that I kept it whilst he was alive, held a lot of sentimental value to him and myself and he died in an accident before it went on my car so keep your fkwit comments to yourself 
paintman said:
Does your number plate comply with the dimensions given in this leaflet?
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
If you plead not guilty unless you can satisfy the prosecutors that they are wrong you will very likely need to attend court.
I'd suggest you may also need something/someone from the company as your expert witness.
If you win you can ask for your costs.
You can ask for actual costs, not 'what I think I might have earned'
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/apply-f...
Yes, it complies. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...
If you plead not guilty unless you can satisfy the prosecutors that they are wrong you will very likely need to attend court.
I'd suggest you may also need something/someone from the company as your expert witness.
If you win you can ask for your costs.
You can ask for actual costs, not 'what I think I might have earned'
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/apply-f...
I think I have the original paperwork form the company stating it is legal and I'm sure they will send me somthing.
Actual costs will able to be provable, as she has a contract stating X amount per day.
RA500 said:
Breadvan72 said:
(1) If no oral evidence is needed, then your wife could just send a lawyer to argue about the plate. Otherwise your wife must attend. If she neither attends nor is represented she will probably be convicted.
(2) Legal costs can be awarded but only if incurred. Loss of earnings are not awarded.
So the best way to avoid it costing us money is to instruct a solicitor and go for legal costs? (2) Legal costs can be awarded but only if incurred. Loss of earnings are not awarded.
Is there a way of sorting it via post before it goes to court?
How has it been dealt with? I presume a Fixed Penalty Notice.
If you're satisfied the plates are legal and the police are mistaken, then you don't need to wait to go to court.
You could obtain a copy of that card (assuming it is actually accurate) that came with the plate (can the company send via PDF?), gather any other relevant information and ask to make a complaint. There you can present it all to whoever takes the complaint and they can cancel the FPN if they're satisfied a mistake has been made.
If you're satisfied the plates are legal and the police are mistaken, then you don't need to wait to go to court.
You could obtain a copy of that card (assuming it is actually accurate) that came with the plate (can the company send via PDF?), gather any other relevant information and ask to make a complaint. There you can present it all to whoever takes the complaint and they can cancel the FPN if they're satisfied a mistake has been made.
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