RE: De Tomaso Pantera: Spotted

RE: De Tomaso Pantera: Spotted

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Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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TR4man said:
OddCat said:
TR4man said:
Puddenchucker said:
I've always liked Panteras.
If nothing else, they look fantastic (IMHO) from the back:

Those lopsided rear lights would annoy my OCD.
Granted, the fog light looks a bit squiffy - but the rear lights look OK to me ?
No, that's not what is making my teeth itch. The rear light binnacle on the right hand side are sloping downwards.
Looks even to me, when you consider it's taken off-centre rather than directly from behind.

tch911

375 posts

211 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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easytiger123 said:
This was the car I always hankered after as a kid. Even more than the Countach.

Would love to hear from any owners about what any of the Panteras are like to own and drive.
How funny, me too. I adored the Pantera from the age of eight. In 2011, I was very fortunate for my perfect car to become available (the previous owner had it for 25 years!!!)

Keen eyes will note that mine is not standard, but to me the combination of the Porsche Iris blue paintwork (originally white with black bonnet and Pantera GTS graphics along the side, so 80's) and the cream and blue leather interior (originally black) just serve to make a much more special car.

The biggest challenge in buying a Pantera in the U.K. is finding one of the right hand drive ones, there are very few, and I've not seen one come to market in the almost seven years I have owned mine.

The looks captivate me, the sound haunts my dreams. It's a big Loping guttural V8 at idle (351 cubic inches but mine is now 393), that develops into a hard edged bellow in the mid range before soaring (in mine) to a 6,500 rpm redline with a howl that makes the hairs on the back of your neck stand up.

To drive....hmmm....easy to get into, leg, bum, plop. Seating position is offset with feet quite central, but nothing as bad as say a 288GTO with it's almost horizontal steering wheel. Ride is excellent on those tall-sided tyres, and mine handles superbly but then it is running a full Ohlins set up. Gearshift is fabulous, click clack through the open gate, and the ZF gearbox is bombproof. Brakes are good, but all that rearward weight bias, they do have a tendency to lock the fronts under very heavy braking. Switching the Pirelli front tyres to Yokohama has made that less of an issue. Handling is sublime and it's very predictable if you ever break rear traction, as long you keep your toe in.

The Ford 351 Cleveland engine is a total beast (mine even more so) a real torque monster which makes for effortless driving. I just drove 1,100 mile round trip to Angouleme for the Circuit Des Remparts and aside from needing to wear noise-cancelling headphones, I was so comfortable, and not knackered in the slightest.

Electrics are shocking, but I have now had someone brilliant add some modern magic to the loom to reduce the strain on the system. I am also very lucky to have a brilliant mechanic local to me who is used to working on these and Countach regularly, as well. Biggest annoyance are probably those rear tyres which aside from being £500 each, are only made in limited batches by Pirelli every few years. Second is probably the number of people that see a badge they don't know, and a Ford engine slung out back, and ask whether it's a Kit Car.

Fuel economy is shocking, space for luggage is laughable, it tramlines for Britain on Sussex B-roads and it make me deaf when I drive it. But as I sit there with my ear drums tingling, and every hair on the back of my neck standing up, I have a smile on my face that you will all know so well. A smile of such enormous pleasure, satisfaction, and happiness.

Edited by tch911 on Monday 15th January 21:38

tch911

375 posts

211 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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tch911

375 posts

211 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Side on and interior shots please.

Looks awesome

OddCat

2,527 posts

171 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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tch911 said:
I think I am in love..... cloud9

tch911

375 posts

211 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Gameface said:
Side on shot please.
Parked up after the haul down from Sussex to the Dordogne. 550 miles in one journey, cold beer never tasted so good!



Edited by tch911 on Monday 15th January 21:48

tch911

375 posts

211 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Gameface said:
Interior shot please.

Looks awesome
You are very kind sir. Probably not to everyone's taste but wouldn't it be boring if we all wanted our cars the same way!


Gameface

16,565 posts

77 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Lovely. What BHP is the bigger engine making?

tch911

375 posts

211 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Gameface said:
Lovely. What BHP is the bigger engine making?
472 bhp at just shy of the redline
466 lb/ft

Big wall of torque from about 2,500 rpm. It's a very smooth streetable engine, not a cammy race engine.

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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tch911 said:
Parked up after the haul down from Sussex to the Dordogne. 550 miles in one journey, cold beer never tasted so good!



Edited by tch911 on Monday 15th January 21:48
Blue meanie - absolutely gorgeous!

Muntu

7,635 posts

199 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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Ring Brothers did a nice version:



More pics at https://ringbrothers.com/1971_pantera_adrnln - Interior is awesome!

irocfan

40,439 posts

190 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Muntu said:
Ring Brothers did a nice version:



More pics at https://ringbrothers.com/1971_pantera_adrnln - Interior is awesome!
Possibly (on the exterior at any rate) one of my favourite supercars

easytiger123

2,595 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Tom...absolutely brilliant! Thanks so much for the review and pics. Part of me was almost hoping you'd tell me not to meet my heroes but this just has re-started the hanker all over again! As you say, finding a decent RHD one is virtually impossible.

Thanks again. Much appreciated!

Barchettaman

6,308 posts

132 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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That's one of the great things about this site - an enthusiast like Tom pops up and tells us all about actually living with the car.

The fact that his writing and photos are better than those in the original article is a nice bonus, too.

Many thanks for sharing your experiences of owning and driving this remarkable machine.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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One of my favourite cars. Lovely.

rastapasta

1,863 posts

138 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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irocfan said:
tch911 said:
Parked up after the haul down from Sussex to the Dordogne. 550 miles in one journey, cold beer never tasted so good!



Edited by tch911 on Monday 15th January 21:48
Blue meanie - absolutely gorgeous!
The car looks fantastic fair play to you.

Is that your barn restoration in the background??

grumpy52

5,581 posts

166 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Somebody in the Beds/Northants area was using a black one in single venue tarmac rallies and sprints/hillclimbs back in the late 70s early 80s .
It made a glorious noise and was driven without fear !

binnerboy

486 posts

150 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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love these an early GT5 please

this was my poster car as a kid much preferred its look to the Countach

one day it will be mine ........

steveirl

276 posts

212 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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tch911 said:
Parked up after the haul down from Sussex to the Dordogne. 550 miles in one journey, cold beer never tasted so good!



Edited by tch911 on Monday 15th January 21:48
Fabulous GT5 in a great colour, I don't recognise that car and I know most of them. Was that photo taken when touring the Dordogne with the De Tomaso group in 2016 by any chance?
I owned a GT5S for 10 years, one of the most charismatic cars i have had the pleasure of caretaking, and regrettably sold it a few years ago.
It was featured here.

https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph-carpool/ph...