Are LR Velars selling?

[hoegaardenruls]

Ares said:

had ham said:

The Vambo said:

hoegaardenruls said:

Couldn't be any worse than that..but still manages to look bloody awful ..

Honestly, the Velar might not be a 250 gto but describing it as bloody awful is being contrary to the point of stupidity.

No, it's not - it's called an opinion, and one which I share, I think it's a nasty looking chintzy thing, but then I'm no fan of the RR/LR range anyway.

It will however be selling very well, just like the rest of the range, and long may that continue. It will also suffer horrendously with various, mostly electrical, ailments, just like the rest of the range, and hopefully one day they will be able to address that.

You may not like it, but to call it's looks, bloody awful is either disingenuous or requiring a trip to Specsavers. And that's my opinion

Compare it (side on especially) with it's JLR stablemate the F-pace - same chassis, wheelbase, sloping roofline, and rear overhang - the proportions of the Velar just look totally out, while the F-pace pulls it off well and is one of the better looking SUV's out there. Just my humble opinion, and that's having been to Specsavers recently

No doubt the Velar will sell, regardless of price difference to the F-pace, much in part to the LR badge rather than anything else..

[Ares]

dazmanultra said:

Looks like you can get £4k-5k discount on these already. Probably needs to be ~£8k to move the needle.

The Velar is a really nice car, but I just couldn't justify the cost once specified to a decent level. It doesn't 'feel' special in the same way a FFRR does - the leather and seats don't feel as nice, and parts of the interior are just not befitting of a £65K car.

Shock. £60k car doesn't feel as special as a £100k car.

[unpc]

Shed loads of them where I live in Essex

[Ares]

wemorgan said:

Lease prices are very poor on the Velar (9+47 £400) - so doubt many are being leased.

I read last year that the Velar attracted record orders/deposits.

£400 on a 9+47 is poor? What do you think good would be?

FWIW, 9+47 means you drive round in a £60k car for four years for what equates to £20,000 plus RFL.

You think it will depreciate less than that?? Only lose a third of it's value over 4 years?

[Ares]

J4CKO said:

"Poverty spec" on a 45 grand car ?

What doesnt it have other than stuff to make it look more expensive, I expect it has everything most could reasonably need ?

Yes, but poverty spec isn't poverty really, is it?

[DonkeyApple]

Taaaaang said:

I wonder whether they are perhaps a little too feminine looking? A little too pretty for their cost?

My Mrs thinks they're gorgeous but can't reconcile the cost. She said she's rather have a discovery and a new fleet of handbags!

I'd never drive one, for instance.

I think they’re going to drop the supercharged V8 into them next year so suddenly it’ll become much easier to buy for the wife.

[Ares]

hoegaardenruls said:

Compare it (side on especially) with it's JLR stablemate the F-pace - same chassis, wheelbase, sloping roofline, and rear overhang - the proportions of the Velar just look totally out, while the F-pace pulls it off well and is one of the better looking SUV's out there. Just my humble opinion, and that's having been to Specsavers recently

No doubt the Velar will sell, regardless of price difference to the F-pace, much in part to the LR badge rather than anything else..

Being bettered, in your opinion, by one of the best SUVs out there, doesn't make it bloody awful though. If the Velar is bloody awful, where do the st awful SsangYong things come in?

As for Velar Vs F-Pace, I'd take the Velar's looks inside and out (even profile)

[hoegaardenruls]

Ares said:

hoegaardenruls said:

Compare it (side on especially) with it's JLR stablemate the F-pace - same chassis, wheelbase, sloping roofline, and rear overhang - the proportions of the Velar just look totally out, while the F-pace pulls it off well and is one of the better looking SUV's out there. Just my humble opinion, and that's having been to Specsavers recently

No doubt the Velar will sell, regardless of price difference to the F-pace, much in part to the LR badge rather than anything else..

Being bettered, in your opinion, by one of the best SUVs out there, doesn't make it bloody awful though. If the Velar is bloody awful, where do the st awful SsangYong things come in?

As for Velar Vs F-Pace, I'd take the Velar's looks inside and out (even profile)

I suspect that's one thing we may agree on, as "the st awful SsangYong things" are whole different league!!

[DonkeyApple]

Ares said:

hoegaardenruls said:

Compare it (side on especially) with it's JLR stablemate the F-pace - same chassis, wheelbase, sloping roofline, and rear overhang - the proportions of the Velar just look totally out, while the F-pace pulls it off well and is one of the better looking SUV's out there. Just my humble opinion, and that's having been to Specsavers recently

No doubt the Velar will sell, regardless of price difference to the F-pace, much in part to the LR badge rather than anything else..

Being bettered, in your opinion, by one of the best SUVs out there, doesn't make it bloody awful though. If the Velar is bloody awful, where do the st awful SsangYong things come in?

As for Velar Vs F-Pace, I'd take the Velar's looks inside and out (even profile)

I prefer the Velar also. To me it looks sleeker. As the F Pace had the V6 option it was clearly preferable to any smaller LR car but if the Velar gets the V8 then as far as I’m concerned it then has both looks and performance to pip the Jag.

The Jag’s arse seems to look very bulbous in the lighter colours also.

[M1C]

I've started to see an increase in Velars in the last month around here (Co. Durham).

I think they may be more colour/spec sensitive than F-Paces, which i think look nice in all forms.

Some Velars i've seen looked 'excellent' and some look a bit..dodgy.

I'd happily take either though

[covmutley]

Ares said:

J4CKO said:

"Poverty spec" on a 45 grand car ?

What doesnt it have other than stuff to make it look more expensive, I expect it has everything most could reasonably need ?

Yes, but poverty spec isn't poverty really, is it?

At this level it is 100% want, 0% need. If I was getting a velar I would not want a 2l engine. Playing with the online 'build' tool that gets it up to £55k straight off.

I would consider a disco sport with the 2l engine however.

[dazmanultra]

Ares said:

Shock. £60k car doesn't feel as special as a £100k car.

There is significant crossover, they're not in completely different segments - a 6 cylinder Velar with a few extras is easily £70K which is RRS money and 1 year old FFRR money.

[M1C]

LR have gone crazy with pricing across the range.

BUT! If people are still buying them...why wouldn't they.

It's just a shame about the 'boot' which is the new Disco!

[alorotom]

Couple of them round here ... plus a handful of super low miler (<2k) pre regs ones on AT for around £45k which isn’t too bad considering I would say

[Ares]

dazmanultra said:

Ares said:

Shock. £60k car doesn't feel as special as a £100k car.

There is significant crossover, they're not in completely different segments - a 6 cylinder Velar with a few extras is easily £70K which is RRS money and 1 year old FFRR money.

Always a crossover segment between any manufacturers models.

[Jag_NE]

Reffro said:

Without giving any specifics, Velar has outsold the Discovery, Range Rover and Range Rover Sport in the last 3 months.

out of interest, are net sales up overall? presuming FFRR and RRS and more lucrative for LR, if the Velar is cannibalising sales it may not be a great thing. Given that most RR's are bought as lifestyle pieces I could envisage many buyers picking the Velar versus the RR's solely on looks. Id be interested to know how the new disco is selling as I think it looks awful and has moved into a weird space where I think it will appeal to more of a niche market.

[Ares]

covmutley said:

Ares said:

J4CKO said:

"Poverty spec" on a 45 grand car ?

What doesnt it have other than stuff to make it look more expensive, I expect it has everything most could reasonably need ?

Yes, but poverty spec isn't poverty really, is it?

At this level it is 100% want, 0% need. If I was getting a velar I would not want a 2l engine. Playing with the online 'build' tool that gets it up to £55k straight off.

I would consider a disco sport with the 2l engine however.

But I'm guessing you're not buying a Velar, whereas those who are are typically unfused about having a 2l Engine (or know what engine it has). And to say this is 100% want, 0% need is not universally accurate.

[Taaaaang]

Jag_NE said:

Reffro said:

Without giving any specifics, Velar has outsold the Discovery, Range Rover and Range Rover Sport in the last 3 months.

out of interest, are net sales up overall? presuming FFRR and RRS and more lucrative for LR, if the Velar is cannibalising sales it may not be a great thing. Given that most RR's are bought as lifestyle pieces I could envisage many buyers picking the Velar versus the RR's solely on looks. Id be interested to know how the new disco is selling as I think it looks awful and has moved into a weird space where I think it will appeal to more of a niche market.

The RR and RRS are at the end of their pre-facelift cycle though, which has to be taken into consideration.

[J4CKO]

Ares said:

covmutley said:

Ares said:

J4CKO said:

"Poverty spec" on a 45 grand car ?

What doesnt it have other than stuff to make it look more expensive, I expect it has everything most could reasonably need ?

Yes, but poverty spec isn't poverty really, is it?

At this level it is 100% want, 0% need. If I was getting a velar I would not want a 2l engine. Playing with the online 'build' tool that gets it up to £55k straight off.

I would consider a disco sport with the 2l engine however.

But I'm guessing you're not buying a Velar, whereas those who are are typically unfused about having a 2l Engine (or know what engine it has). And to say this is 100% want, 0% need is not universally accurate.

Indeed, a lot wont care, they know LR wont make one that doesnt do the job adequately, and then some, people that spend 45 grand plus generally arent the narcissistic cretins so many on here assume, they will like the styling, the brand and the practicality angle and want one, but most will have a budget to work to like all of us and will pick and choose what they prioritise as being important.

The lowest spec 4 cyl diesel engined one does sixty in 8.4 seconds, more than adequate even if it perhaps isnt super smooth, but it does the job, pay more and you get faster and smoother, it still manages to perform as well as an 80s hot hatch, most of the time you arent accelerating, and if you are you arent accelerating flat out, or most normal folk arent.

Its is all very well contrived to get you spending more, those 18 inch wheels dont do the rest justice, at least looks wise.

[S54Love]

There seem to be 2 round my area, one has the bigger wheels and the other seems to be of a poverty spec. I must admit, that the smaller wheels do look ridiculous on a car this size - they simply do not fill the arches at all. Although, they must do wonders on the ride quality compared to the 22" in the promotional materials.