Are LR Velars selling?
Discussion
LuS1fer said:
TheRainMaker said:
Junior Bianno said:
When you see it looking like this, it doesn't look very special!
I like that 
MorganP104 said:
My brother-in-law does. As the designated "car guy" in my family, he came to me for a bit of advice about 10 years ago. He had his eye on a Honda FR-V, as he had young children, and fancied an MPV that didn't look or drive too much like a bus.
Fair enough, says I - just make sure it's a diesel, with alloys, and sat nav, otherwise it will be worth nothing when you come to sell it.
What does he do? Goes out and buys a low-spec petrol, with plastic wheel trims, and no sat nav.
He was gutted when the car was worth 50p about 6 years later. Oh, how I laughed!
PS: It gets worse... The car he traded in for the FR-V was a MkI Citroen C5. I wish I was making this up.
The options you suggested will depreciate with the rest of the car. At some point in the future, the cars value will be based on weight. As the designated "car guy" in my family, he came to me for a bit of advice about 10 years ago. He had his eye on a Honda FR-V, as he had young children, and fancied an MPV that didn't look or drive too much like a bus.Fair enough, says I - just make sure it's a diesel, with alloys, and sat nav, otherwise it will be worth nothing when you come to sell it.
What does he do? Goes out and buys a low-spec petrol, with plastic wheel trims, and no sat nav.
He was gutted when the car was worth 50p about 6 years later. Oh, how I laughed!
PS: It gets worse... The car he traded in for the FR-V was a MkI Citroen C5. I wish I was making this up.
You can buy the best satnav in the world from Halfords for 100 quid, that probably miles better than what ever is fitted to any car.
Do secondhand car buyers want a diesel? I know I didn't. Alloy wheels? I wouldn't have had them if there was an option to have not done.
MorganP104 said:
Fair enough, says I - just make sure it's a diesel, with alloys, and sat nav, otherwise it will be worth nothing when you come to sell it.
Blimey.What a nobhead to buy the car he wanted rather than the one you did. Let me guess, do you drive a silver Audi?
By the time the car was 6-years old, the satnav would be out of date, the alloys would be needing a refurb rather than a £20 set of trims and diesel engines are now bad news if you hadn't noticed.
But other than that, top consumer advice
And to keep on topic, I don't think I've seen a Velar that wasn't on a car transporter. My poor car had to sit behind one of those weird Discovery things for 24 hours on a ferry last year - I hope the Velar looks better than that from the back
Edited by northwest monkey on Tuesday 16th January 22:27
Pintofbest said:
So it’s OK apart from being broken? Righto 
Gas struts are consumable parts to some extent, they lasted 16 years on my 520iT, so I'm not bothered... but I've got a pile of bills relating to previous owners' expenditure on the electric tailgate on my 540iT, and everything they fixed has gone wrong again (and in some cases this is the third occurrence thereof). It's just another bloody thing to go wrong, and I would never have specced it myself - but a pristine(ish) 540iT for £1500, when I desperately needed a cheap new car, was too good to miss.As for the Velar - sorry, it's utterly hideous. I don't like Range Rovers much in general, but this one is the worst of the lot. It's almost as bad as the new Disco. You can even see on the side that it shares the Jag's curved rear glazing, they've just used a load of black plastic to cover it up. Cheapskate bodgery... and suppose the doors fail to release from the inside, and the emergency services need to get the bloody thing open, FAST... and an electrical niggle stops them?! The handles don't really look any different to the ones on the Aston Martin DB9/DBS/Vantage etc, but they're just a damn simple mechanical device, push in at one end, the other end pops out and you pull on that... nothing to go wrong, short of a spring breaking.
Got picked up in a Velar today and hadn’t really noticed them on the road because the LR designers are getting about as lazy as the Porsche designers and it looks just like all the others. The differences being length and roof angle.
Yes the door handles failed to work and had to use the over ride. Reminded me of when I bought an original Jaguar XF when first launched and the fuel flap and glovebox worked intermittently too. Seems electrics and innovation still don’t meet at JLR
Then there was the “patriotic” seat pattern of union flags made out of perforations.... don’t get me started on that
Yes the door handles failed to work and had to use the over ride. Reminded me of when I bought an original Jaguar XF when first launched and the fuel flap and glovebox worked intermittently too. Seems electrics and innovation still don’t meet at JLR
Then there was the “patriotic” seat pattern of union flags made out of perforations.... don’t get me started on that
Ares said:
DonkeyApple said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I've always thought that a premium car should have a premium engine, but apart from a lack of smoothness I think you can get away with a low powered/slightly rough engine in a SUV...because it's a slow and steady type of car.
Welcome to the 21st century where a product is premium because you are told it is. The consumer no longer has any ability to tell premium from rough crap without a label to tell them. Oh, and you can’t finance petrol at 5% over so tiny diesels have to be fitted to allow consumers to have a premium product without premium running costs.
t.Sit in a Velar. Tell me why it is anything other than premium.
Then sit in a Discovery and compare.
Then sit in a Ford Kuga and compare
And when 2l Diesels have the same performance as hot hatches 10yrs ago and still get 40mpg, why would most want anything different?
MuscleSaloon said:
Ares said:
Sit in a Velar. Tell me why it is anything other than premium.
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What Car? wasn't so convinced ....
" Although all the areas you regularly touch feel great, there’s scratchy plastic on the bottom of the door trims, around the door openings, on the front seatbacks and the sides of the centre console. That might be acceptable on a £20,000 hatchback, it’s not on an SUV that can cost north of £80,000 "
And if all they can fault is plastics that you can't really see, then it must be ok!
S54Love said:
I'm confused by people mentioning the door handle, I thought many cars had similar sorts of pop-out handles these days?
Off the top of my head, I'm sure that Model S' have a similar door handle, and they seem to be fine.
Shhh.... Those with irrational hatred have to think of something to blame their hatred on. Off the top of my head, I'm sure that Model S' have a similar door handle, and they seem to be fine.
Mr2Mike said:
Ares said:
And when 2l Diesels have the same performance as hot hatches 10yrs ago and still get 40mpg, why would most want anything different?
Most are only interested in what they think the badge and the number plate prefix tells other people about them, so most wouldn't care.(and number plate prefixes haven't been around for approaching 20yrs
)shakotan said:
There were 2371 Velars registered in 2017, compared to 13853 Macans, and 17666 F-Paces.
Even with there only being around 6 months of sales for the RR vs a full year for the others, still is pretty poor numbers.
Not really, first deliveries weren't until September, and they are still only just getting to full production. Even with there only being around 6 months of sales for the RR vs a full year for the others, still is pretty poor numbers.
Re diesel performance - I couldn't give a toss if a modern (for example) BMW 520d Touring could stay right with my E39 540i Touring. I've got the V8 because I wanted something smooth, refined, luxurious and a bit characterful. Yeah, I pay a premium in petrol, but so what the heck.
Now, in isolation, JLR offering a Velar 2.0d makes sense, up to a point (given that those of us who ranted against diesel for years are FINALLY being listened to...), but then pricing it only just a bit cheaper than a Macan with a twin-turbo petrol V6 and expecting to trade on RR brand values is daft. If I was in the market for a ~45k SUV, I'd have the Macan every single time. It's vastly better-looking, better-specced and with a much nicer engine.
Now, in isolation, JLR offering a Velar 2.0d makes sense, up to a point (given that those of us who ranted against diesel for years are FINALLY being listened to...), but then pricing it only just a bit cheaper than a Macan with a twin-turbo petrol V6 and expecting to trade on RR brand values is daft. If I was in the market for a ~45k SUV, I'd have the Macan every single time. It's vastly better-looking, better-specced and with a much nicer engine.
RoverP6B said:
Re diesel performance - I couldn't give a toss if a modern (for example) BMW 520d Touring could stay right with my E39 540i Touring. I've got the V8 because I wanted something smooth, refined, luxurious and a bit characterful. Yeah, I pay a premium in petrol, but so what the heck.
Now, in isolation, JLR offering a Velar 2.0d makes sense, up to a point (given that those of us who ranted against diesel for years are FINALLY being listened to...), but then pricing it only just a bit cheaper than a Macan with a twin-turbo petrol V6 and expecting to trade on RR brand values is daft. If I was in the market for a ~45k SUV, I'd have the Macan every single time. It's vastly better-looking, better-specced and with a much nicer engine.
The Velar is now outselling the Macan in the UK. JLR are sticking it to Porsche.Now, in isolation, JLR offering a Velar 2.0d makes sense, up to a point (given that those of us who ranted against diesel for years are FINALLY being listened to...), but then pricing it only just a bit cheaper than a Macan with a twin-turbo petrol V6 and expecting to trade on RR brand values is daft. If I was in the market for a ~45k SUV, I'd have the Macan every single time. It's vastly better-looking, better-specced and with a much nicer engine.
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