A Case Study in Being a Bellend
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Stereotyping - Check
I own an Audi, its white and I have a private plate on it, but in that instance I would of stick it in neutral and allow the hill hold to grab it.
sorry fella its bell ends like you that cause the hatred towards a model of car on the roads more commonly called "Clarksonisming", my attitude/driving style doesn't change depending on what car I'm driving (If anything in my wifes cooper S I'm a bit of a 
) but when I'm in mine the anger towards me really does my nut in, but hey I'm a big boy and I get on with my life, dominating the road from the outside lane while not using any form of indication.
I own an Audi, its white and I have a private plate on it, but in that instance I would of stick it in neutral and allow the hill hold to grab it.
sorry fella its bell ends like you that cause the hatred towards a model of car on the roads more commonly called "Clarksonisming", my attitude/driving style doesn't change depending on what car I'm driving (If anything in my wifes cooper S I'm a bit of a ) but when I'm in mine the anger towards me really does my nut in, but hey I'm a big boy and I get on with my life, dominating the road from the outside lane while not using any form of indication.Edited by Icehanger on Tuesday 16th January 12:41
Rawwr said:
When did it become such a terrible thing to have some consideration for the person in the car behind?
Was thinking the same, handbrake on & into neutral if it looks like you'll be stationary for a while. I also turn the headlights onto sidelights purely out of courtesy, no other reason (only to find you're between LED brakelights & SUV headlights!).Doesn't cost me anything or cause any hassle, just being polite and considerate - more people should try it
eta - as for motorbikes, no handbrake so brakes have to stay on regardless of gear, unless you're riding the clutch - have to admit to killing the motor & leaving in gear at recent 4 way traffic lights though - again out of courtesy having made my way to the front of the queue, felt bad sitting there with LED brake light on at driver eye level.
Edited by graham22 on Tuesday 16th January 12:48
Prof Prolapse said:
Krikkit said:
Bikes are a different kettle of fish altogether, but I can't believe it's hard work to nudge the lever one detent when sitting for a while.
To be clear I'm not saying that you should do it at every stop, but at a level crossing or a particularly long set of traffic lights... Why not? Even just to relieve you from having to keep the pedal pressed (assuming no auto hold) until the traffic starts moving again.
Nah at a crossing I wouldn't hold the brake (I did say that), but I'm struggling to think of another instance save for an accident. I really just see my inconvenience at doing this routinely thousands of times a year (that's not an exaggeration), being far greater than what is caused by my brake light, an issue that as road user, has never bothered me. Then again I tend to leave about a metre of visible tarmac when I stop behind a car, so perhaps that helps?To be clear I'm not saying that you should do it at every stop, but at a level crossing or a particularly long set of traffic lights... Why not? Even just to relieve you from having to keep the pedal pressed (assuming no auto hold) until the traffic starts moving again.
Nah, no autobrake on mine. It creeps. There is a "hold" button, but in all honesty I can't be arsed, I never even knew what it did until now. I do about 20K/year and I try and be a very considerate road user, but I bought a spackerbox so I could reduce the driving burden as much as possible, and this really seems unnecessary to me.
If I had a superbright rear LED set then maybe I'd reconsider, but currently if someone got out and asked me to start using neutral, it would be a flat "no, sorry, do you have sunglasses perhaps?" in response from me.
ts who ride the brakes for 10 minutes while waiting (even in manuals).I find a lot of brake lights very uncomfortable these days, but ultimately just leave a bit more space.
A lot of modern day cars have stop/start and auto hold. Also a lot have LED brake lights to be brighter and to alert drivers further away in poor visibility of motorways (for safety). So this creates a first world problem.
So at a level crossing, many drivers end up using auto hold and engine turns off automatically. The driver doesn't have foot on brake and car is turned off so no fumes from idling. The driver is going to think he/she is doing the right thing. If it wasn't for pistonhead, I would not have known that the brake lights come on when using auto hold i.e. my foot is not on the brake.
One question though: does the brake light still stay on when the engine is turned off?
ETA: when I saw the thread title and the photo image, I thought the OP was trying to explain a picture he got from the internet somewhere which showed the driver is a bell-end for following the Audi too closely.
So at a level crossing, many drivers end up using auto hold and engine turns off automatically. The driver doesn't have foot on brake and car is turned off so no fumes from idling. The driver is going to think he/she is doing the right thing. If it wasn't for pistonhead, I would not have known that the brake lights come on when using auto hold i.e. my foot is not on the brake.
One question though: does the brake light still stay on when the engine is turned off?
ETA: when I saw the thread title and the photo image, I thought the OP was trying to explain a picture he got from the internet somewhere which showed the driver is a bell-end for following the Audi too closely.
KTF said:
Am I the only person who doesn't find brake lights 'blinding'?
No, another one over here. 
It might be because I sit very high in my car, but this is my first Range Rover in over 50 cars, and in 23 years of driving, I can't ever remember brake lights in front bothering me.
Fog lights when it's not foggy, however...
But that's a whole different thread. ETA: The title of this thread promised much, and delivered little. 4/10 from me, OP.
Nanook said:
What? Why? What difference does the type of car you're parked behind make?
Because the height of the vehicle will show or hide more of the rear tyres. I do not think it is a BS rule as such, but for the "average" day to day drive it is useful for allowing one to keep a "reasonable" distance from the vehicle in front. Therefore allowing a driver to make an easy "escape" where pulling up behind the car in front would cause problems needing to reverse. Case in point was last night when a vehicle broke down in a queue, I was two vehicles behind that vehicle that broke down. Both vehicles in front had to reverse (and me leaving T&T he could gently reverse back into the space left). All vehicles then could easily get past the broken down one. If following T&T then not of that situation would have arisen. Other things are filtering motorcycles, some emergency vehicles etc. can easily get past as well.
I must admit I do feel uncomfortable being driven by another whilst sitting in the passenger seat and the road disappears from view and all you can see if bonnet and then bumper or in some cases boot.
leef44 said:
A lot of modern day cars have stop/start and auto hold. Also a lot have LED brake lights to be brighter and to alert drivers further away in poor visibility of motorways (for safety). So this creates a first world problem.
So at a level crossing, many drivers end up using auto hold and engine turns off automatically. The driver doesn't have foot on brake and car is turned off so no fumes from idling. The driver is going to think he/she is doing the right thing. If it wasn't for pistonhead, I would not have known that the brake lights come on when using auto hold i.e. my foot is not on the brake.
One question though: does the brake light still stay on when the engine is turned off?
ETA: when I saw the thread title and the photo image, I thought the OP was trying to explain a picture he got from the internet somewhere which showed the driver is a bell-end for following the Audi too closely.
I generally use autohold and 'D': for traffic lights etc. If I apply the handbrake then the stop/start function restarts the engine, so it's a choice between brakelights and exhaust fumes. I have gathered from previous threads on PH that shifting into 'P' for every short halt is not kind to the gearbox.So at a level crossing, many drivers end up using auto hold and engine turns off automatically. The driver doesn't have foot on brake and car is turned off so no fumes from idling. The driver is going to think he/she is doing the right thing. If it wasn't for pistonhead, I would not have known that the brake lights come on when using auto hold i.e. my foot is not on the brake.
One question though: does the brake light still stay on when the engine is turned off?
ETA: when I saw the thread title and the photo image, I thought the OP was trying to explain a picture he got from the internet somewhere which showed the driver is a bell-end for following the Audi too closely.
If it's going to be a long stop then I switch off - but there aren't many of those.
eldar said:
Private plate?
Yes, private plate.Even if you think that Audi might actually be 14yo, J is not a first letter that's been used for an area mnemonic. The only way to get a Jx plate is to buy it from DVLA Select.
Quite WHY they felt the need to spunk good money on that is another question entirely... It probably explains in little letters at the bottom.
KTF said:
Am I the only person who doesn't find brake lights 'blinding'?
I never used to think so, until I looked directly into the lense and it burned my retinas out completely. No, I don't find them overly offensive. Yes some are fairly bright but I don't find them that problematic.
dibblecorse said:
thatguy11 said:
Audi? Check
White? Check
Private Plate? Check
Blinding me for 10 full minutes while stopped at a crossing? Check Check Check
How inconsiderate do you need to be? People really don't appreciate how dazzling modern LED brake lights are at night, especially close up. It's probably borderline dangerous scorching the retinas of the driver behind you. I know this topic has been done before but I felt like a rant as this is one of my absolute biggest pet peeves on the road. Plus it just amused me slightly that I happened across a near-perfect score of bellend bingo.
Yet another example of precious people clogging up the forum with their first world problems.
Would help if the OP cleaned his windscreen. Seems most of the glare is caused by that.
I can kind of empathise with the point; at a dark, unlit junction, sitting behind a car with bright brake lights can be irritating due to the difference in contrast. Not blinding though, unless you stare at them for too long. Certainly only looks bad in the OPs picture due to the filthy windscreen.
I can kind of empathise with the point; at a dark, unlit junction, sitting behind a car with bright brake lights can be irritating due to the difference in contrast. Not blinding though, unless you stare at them for too long. Certainly only looks bad in the OPs picture due to the filthy windscreen.
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