Fuel pump not priming

Fuel pump not priming

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PapaButch

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235 posts

123 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Haha hasn’t been long at all has it since another post.

I did read other posts on this but I need it dumbing down again for me please.

I was cleaning the carpets and moved all the spaghetti wires yesterday. Today try and start the car up it turns over fine but fuel pump wasn’t priming.

Checked the fuse and that is okay but I don’t know what to check next. Can anyone elaborate?

N7GTX

7,856 posts

143 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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The fuel pump relay is near the fuse box. In the link below there are photos with the various parts labelled. The fuel pump relay needs to be tested to see if it is getting a signal when you first switch the ignition on. It should be switched on for no more than 3 seconds. It is the one fitted to the blue connector on the loom. It may be hanging about somewhere near the fuse box or stuck up behind the dash.

The relay is a Bosch unit, part number 0332014112. About a tenner or so on eBay.

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Edited by N7GTX on Wednesday 17th January 10:43

PapaButch

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235 posts

123 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Thank you yes the blue connector has a brown relay on. Has just under 12v at the connector.

Does click once for the relay immobiliser switch but not again for fuel pump.

I shall get a new one thank you smile

PapaButch

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235 posts

123 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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..only just got round to doing this ....

fuel pump is still not making a noise what so ever :O

what else should I look at?

Chim450

1,452 posts

261 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Have you checked the fuel pump itself? I know it is a bit of a coincidence with you having messed with the wires, but probably worth checking.

PapaButch

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235 posts

123 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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What do i do with it? put ignition on and voltmeter on the terminals?

N7GTX

7,856 posts

143 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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So when you turn the ignition to on can you hear the relays click? If not then there is a fault further back i.e. power to the relays.
If yes, you hear a click, then you need to jack up the rear nearside and remove the wheel. The fuel pump is in front of you bolted to the chassis. If you have a multimeter, attach the probes to the terminals and have someone switch the ignition on. You should see battery voltage - around 11.5 - 12 volts. If you do then the pump has failed. If you do not then open the passenger door, tip the seat forward and behind the door fame you can pull the carpet away as it is velcroed (or was). There is wiring in there which is easily accessible. Check all the connectors by disconnecting and inspecting. Corrosion should be fixed if you find some on the terminals.
You can determine the fuel pump wiring colours and probe them at the connector as before. If still no voltage then back to the relay. If yes then the wiring is broken between the connector and the pump.
Its just a process of elimination.
Remove the relay and with the ignition off put one probe to a good earth - the battery negative is nearby. Then probe each of the terminals. You should find one terminal that is live with 12 volts - permanent live. Now have someone switch the ignition on and probe again. You should find another terminal supplying 12 volts - ignition switched supply. If you do then the relay is suspect. If you do not then the relay is not being switched.

Edited by N7GTX on Saturday 17th February 14:02

PapaButch

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235 posts

123 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Ah not to worry....as it said earlier in post I was changing the relay in the blue plug...there was also a black plug same fitting ... it was blue st on the prongs ... replaced THAT one and it started up first time !!!!!!!

SO THERE IS 2!!! I DID NOT KNOW!

N7GTX

7,856 posts

143 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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The ECU relay. Well done. thumbup

PapaButch

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235 posts

123 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Ive saved your diagnosis for further work if it is needed smile

thanks a lot for your time !

Chris

Steve_D

13,737 posts

258 months

Saturday 17th February 2018
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Good result.
Now you need to do some more work.
If those contacts were as bad as you say then the new relay will give the same issues unless you get the relay base (connector) really clean or better still replace all the contacts.
As a bare minimum stuff the contacts full of Vaseline then push the relay in and out about 20 times so the pins of the relay scrape a good contact on the terminals.

Steve

Sardonicus

18,957 posts

221 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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And find the source of the damp/water ingress leak etc, no moisture/damp no green terminals which is the actual copper dissolving frown

Chim450

1,452 posts

261 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Have you checked the fuel pump itself? I know it is a bit of a coincidence with you having messed with the wires, but probably worth checking.