Engine swap to a smaller one?

Engine swap to a smaller one?

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Red9555

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17 posts

74 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Hi I am thinking about buying a Ford Fiesta ST MK6 and then having the Engine swapped for a smaller MK6 1.6l Zetec S engine. Does anyone know the general cost of this? The main reason is I want all the extras and different paint colour that the ST comes with but with a more fuel efficient engine.

Would the road tax and insurance change to that of the Zetec S engine? Or will everything stay the same price?

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Why? ST isn’t expensive to run anyway.

It’d cost more in insurance too, with the engine conversion declared anyway I’d think.

pixelatedJH

225 posts

112 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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The conversion cost will be hilarious when compared to any small fuel savings.

DanielSan

18,745 posts

166 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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I’d be amazed if the N/A 1.6 was even any better on juice. And take account the cost of the conversion and extra insurance, that pretty much equals the dumbest idea possible.

C70R

17,596 posts

103 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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pixelatedJH said:
The conversion cost will be hilarious when compared to any small fuel savings.
This. Can't believe that OP has done the maths...

anonymous-user

53 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Surely the Ford Fiesta Black Edition would be the best bet, looks like a ST but with 1.0 turbo engine.

Butter Face

30,191 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Just buy a Zetec S?

They look virtually the same. Add any ST bits you feel you’re missing and be done.

fido

16,752 posts

254 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Sigh. Is this some covert way to advertise Ford products? How about buying an RS, waiting for the engine to blow up (which should be in the first 1k or so if driven enthusiastically) and then claim on the warranty but ask for a 1.0 Ecoboost engine instead as they are less likely to blow .. rolleyes

Red9555

Original Poster:

17 posts

74 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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I would like a zetec s in white but the only ones I'm seeing are crap or over priced. There's a white ST near me that has an engine problem and is around £1000. The engine is around £300 even the MK7 one's are quiet cheap. So the engine and car would cost around £1500 and then add the cost of replacing the engine on top. The average price of a high spec MK6 Zetec S is £2600.

But it seems like it would still be classed as a fiesta st and all the cost with it. The reason why I don't want a Fiesta ST is I read things on this forum like terrible fuel economy and the road tax is £240 which is a lot for a small car.

I have owned a MK6 Zetec S before and got 35mpg around town and 45+mpg on the highway.

dhutch

14,198 posts

196 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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I am doing and engine swap on a kitcar, 1.9cvh dropped a valve so it's due a 2l zetec. Not a small job.

Nothing down this avenue is simple. Forgot it I would say, unless you want the project and doing it yourself for the fun.

Daniel

remedy

1,635 posts

190 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Have the poles reversed?

10 years ago it was kids buying a snotter and fitting a monster turbo engine.
Now it's all about economy nerd

Toyoda

1,557 posts

99 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Obvious troll is obvious

Red9555

Original Poster:

17 posts

74 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Toyoda said:
Obvious troll is obvious
Please go away.

justanother5tar

1,314 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Just get a Sea Grey Zetec S if you’re set on one. Better colour than any ST colour, was always disappointed I couldn’t get a Grey ST

ST will give 40mpgs on a motorway if you want it to. Tax is £20 a month.

Ares

11,000 posts

119 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Red9555 said:
Hi I am thinking about buying a Ford Fiesta ST MK6 and then having the Engine swapped for a smaller MK6 1.6l Zetec S engine. Does anyone know the general cost of this? The main reason is I want all the extras and different paint colour that the ST comes with but with a more fuel efficient engine.

Would the road tax and insurance change to that of the Zetec S engine? Or will everything stay the same price?
Forget the naysayers, this is an easy job to do yourself. You just need a 6mm Allen key. The engine is held in with 6 bolts, undo those, drop the engine out - careful, it weights just over 20kg, get a friend to help you. Good news is the new engine is only 8kg, so you can do that bit yourself.

Just be careful not to cross thread the Allen bolts when you re-tighten.

kiethton

13,883 posts

179 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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If fuel cost is a consideration and you're doing the mileage to justify it/keeping it long enough why not get a 2.0 ST and convert it to LPG, should get an equivalent 50mpg?

Ares

11,000 posts

119 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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kiethton said:
If fuel cost is a consideration and you're doing the mileage to justify it/keeping it long enough why not convert it to LPG, should get an equivalent 50mpg?
Or unicorn tears? They're great. Give at least 75mpg AND they are free (aside from the cost of giving the Unicorn it's weekly Strawberry Frappacino .....DON'T give it the Chocolate Chip one by mistake though, gives it the trots, and you do NOT want to see Unicorn diarrhoea. fk me, it's like molten lava, with sprinkles.)

Valgar

850 posts

134 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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LPG?

Also if you have to ask how much it will cost to do then it's too expensive for you. It'll cost more than the car

Plate spinner

17,649 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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It’d be cheaper to buy the owner engined model and then retro fit body kit, wheels, suspension, interior etc.

Either way will cost you more than the fuel savings though I would suspect.

TameRacingDriver

18,047 posts

271 months

Wednesday 17th January 2018
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Ares said:
Forget the naysayers, this is an easy job to do yourself. You just need a 6mm Allen key. The engine is held in with 6 bolts, undo those, drop the engine out - careful, it weights just over 20kg, get a friend to help you. Good news is the new engine is only 8kg, so you can do that bit yourself.

Just be careful not to cross thread the Allen bolts when you re-tighten.
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