Chris Tarrant - Drink Drive
Discussion
TobyLerone said:
Wait, wot?!
Drink driving is both inexcusable and indefensible. But - if he got home, was there for "some time", and then got breathalysed - how the hell did he get caught?!
Surely, if you claimed your neighbour had pissed you off, and you got home and drank a big glass of rum / whiskey / brandy / whatever, when you're already at home.... how could they charge you?
Even if there's testimony you were drinking at the pub, how could they prove you were over the limit when you were driving, if they didn't catch you in the act?
He hasn't actually denied drink driving though has he, said it was a stupid thing to do. Posters on here who don't see DD as an issue are more put out by his conviction than he seems to be. Drink driving is both inexcusable and indefensible. But - if he got home, was there for "some time", and then got breathalysed - how the hell did he get caught?!
Surely, if you claimed your neighbour had pissed you off, and you got home and drank a big glass of rum / whiskey / brandy / whatever, when you're already at home.... how could they charge you?
Even if there's testimony you were drinking at the pub, how could they prove you were over the limit when you were driving, if they didn't catch you in the act?
Monkeylegend said:
He hasn't actually denied drink driving though has he, said it was a stupid thing to do. Posters on here who don't see DD as an issue are more put out by his conviction than he seems to be.
I think, after reading the article, he was obviously drink driving. But genuinely - if he staunchly opposed the charges (and had his story straight the first time) could he have gotten away with it?
Again, I'll reinforce my previous statement - drink driving is both indefensible and inexcusable, and the sentence is just. Personally, I'd have liked to see a much more severe fine. He's a very wealthy man. The means-tested fines system should have been much more aggressive in my opinion. £6k to a guy with a £2m house... drop in the ocean. He won't even notice it.
TobyLerone said:
Monkeylegend said:
He hasn't actually denied drink driving though has he, said it was a stupid thing to do. Posters on here who don't see DD as an issue are more put out by his conviction than he seems to be.
I think, after reading the article, he was obviously drink driving. But genuinely - if he staunchly opposed the charges (and had his story straight the first time) could he have gotten away with it?
Again, I'll reinforce my previous statement - drink driving is both indefensible and inexcusable, and the sentence is just. Personally, I'd have liked to see a much more severe fine. He's a very wealthy man. The means-tested fines system should have been much more aggressive in my opinion. £6k to a guy with a £2m house... drop in the ocean. He won't even notice it.
Nanook said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Drink driving is not a mistake. Speeding can be a mistake, a moments lack of concentration and judgement. So can going thru a red light. Even driving without insurance can be a misunderstanding. But drink drive takes place over a period of time, and is a pre meditated decision to drive whilst over the limit, because you can't be arsed to walk, get the bus, or are too mean to pay for a taxi.
Apologies, I was just using the dictionary definition of the word 'mistake', not the twigthewonderkid definition.Simonium said:
Nanook said:
TwigtheWonderkid said:
Drink driving is not a mistake. Speeding can be a mistake, a moments lack of concentration and judgement. So can going thru a red light. Even driving without insurance can be a misunderstanding. But drink drive takes place over a period of time, and is a pre meditated decision to drive whilst over the limit, because you can't be arsed to walk, get the bus, or are too mean to pay for a taxi.
Apologies, I was just using the dictionary definition of the word 'mistake', not the twigthewonderkid definition.another 'tip off' led arrest.
Though really..............1/2 a mile????
Along with the pathetic 'mitigating circumstances' bulls*it............... Usual arrogance of a BMW driver I guess.
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/15885440.Bus...
Though really..............1/2 a mile????
Along with the pathetic 'mitigating circumstances' bulls*it............... Usual arrogance of a BMW driver I guess.
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/15885440.Bus...
Slammedorion said:
He may have a drink problem but they’ve just made him look a fool and fed his problem
Really was embarrassing to watch... the camera man kept zooming in on his drink glass
Terrible
He's clearly got a problem though so I agree - it's shameless tv.
Agent XXX said:
another 'tip off' led arrest.
Though really..............1/2 a mile????
Along with the pathetic 'mitigating circumstances' bulls*it............... Usual arrogance of a BMW driver I guess.
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/15885440.Bus...
Another BS post about your mental issues with BMW. Get help. Though really..............1/2 a mile????
Along with the pathetic 'mitigating circumstances' bulls*it............... Usual arrogance of a BMW driver I guess.
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/15885440.Bus...
Andy665 said:
I'm frankly amazed at how many people say they would not report someone who was clearly not fit to drive trough drink
Their is zero need to drive whilst over the limit and I would not hesitate to report someone if I suspected they were over the limit - it could be my son, my friends that they plough in to and kill
People who drink and drive (even more so those who believe its OK to do so) totally disgust me
Am I talking from experience - yes - my ex wife has been done twice - she is my ex precisely because of her drink driving actions
Did you actually dump your wife because she drove drunk a couple of times? Their is zero need to drive whilst over the limit and I would not hesitate to report someone if I suspected they were over the limit - it could be my son, my friends that they plough in to and kill
People who drink and drive (even more so those who believe its OK to do so) totally disgust me
Am I talking from experience - yes - my ex wife has been done twice - she is my ex precisely because of her drink driving actions
Sa Calobra said:
Id like a zero alcohol limit. So there's no am I/aren't I.
So you believe it's absolutely fine and beneficial for people to be charged with DUI after using mouthwash or having Coq au vin for dinner? A zero limit is ridiculous and unworkable. I wouldn't argue against lowering the current limit however.Jeff_Enthused said:
Andy665 said:
I'm frankly amazed at how many people say they would not report someone who was clearly not fit to drive trough drink
Their is zero need to drive whilst over the limit and I would not hesitate to report someone if I suspected they were over the limit - it could be my son, my friends that they plough in to and kill
People who drink and drive (even more so those who believe its OK to do so) totally disgust me
Am I talking from experience - yes - my ex wife has been done twice - she is my ex precisely because of her drink driving actions
Did you actually dump your wife because she drove drunk a couple of times? Their is zero need to drive whilst over the limit and I would not hesitate to report someone if I suspected they were over the limit - it could be my son, my friends that they plough in to and kill
People who drink and drive (even more so those who believe its OK to do so) totally disgust me
Am I talking from experience - yes - my ex wife has been done twice - she is my ex precisely because of her drink driving actions
Jeff_Enthused said:
Andy665 said:
I'm frankly amazed at how many people say they would not report someone who was clearly not fit to drive trough drink
Their is zero need to drive whilst over the limit and I would not hesitate to report someone if I suspected they were over the limit - it could be my son, my friends that they plough in to and kill
People who drink and drive (even more so those who believe its OK to do so) totally disgust me
Am I talking from experience - yes - my ex wife has been done twice - she is my ex precisely because of her drink driving actions
Did you actually dump your wife because she drove drunk a couple of times? Their is zero need to drive whilst over the limit and I would not hesitate to report someone if I suspected they were over the limit - it could be my son, my friends that they plough in to and kill
People who drink and drive (even more so those who believe its OK to do so) totally disgust me
Am I talking from experience - yes - my ex wife has been done twice - she is my ex precisely because of her drink driving actions
zarjaz1991 said:
I'm not in favour of absolute zero tolerance levels though, but I would be cautiously in favour of the Scottish levels being rolled out in England and Wales.
Why though? Can you prove that a significant number of incidents have been caused by people with a blood alcohol limit between the English and Scottish levels, or is it just a desire to be seen as 'tougher'? Andy665 said:
I'm frankly amazed at how many people say they would not report someone who was clearly not fit to drive trough drink
Because clearly people see and understand that there is a difference between being in excess of a legal limit drawn up based on averages, and being obviously impaired. I would warrant that most people would, if not actually report someone to the authorities, take steps to stop someone who is clearly impaired from driving - be it by offering them a bed for the night, taking their keys off them or giving them a stern talking to. However I doubt that most of those people would 'drop the dime' purely on the basis of the fact they had seen someone sitting in a pub nursing a pint for a couple of hours.
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