Attempted Fiesta ST theft
Discussion
ianboom said:
Colebrook was my local for years-was up there Xmas eve as it central to where my friends and I live!
Big problem with super secure cars is the thieving gits may break into your house to get the keys, or car jack you.
ST is gone, I don't think I'll have another new 'nice' car.
Just bought an old Focus that has an ignition key!! It'll do me fir a while.
I know what you mean - The missus wants me to get rid of the ST - Even the Police said "Its because of your choice of car" when mine was stolen. (This infuriated me)Big problem with super secure cars is the thieving gits may break into your house to get the keys, or car jack you.
ST is gone, I don't think I'll have another new 'nice' car.
Just bought an old Focus that has an ignition key!! It'll do me fir a while.
*Al* said:
Can you fit a dummy OBD port but also wire power to it so anything plugged in will get zapped?
That would be excellent! Shove 48 volts into his electronic gizmo and fry it 
Put them out of action for a while too, lol. Must be a possible market there for creating such a thing.Green they are using turbo pickers round here (sometimes called decoders). Only been on the market for a year or two, very advanced mechanical code type picker and will pick most car door locks in under 60 seconds if you are well practiced.
Then there are the multipicks, they can open most lever locks in 2-3 seconds.
Basically technology now means you can steal pretty much any car in under 5 minutes without breaking or damaging anything.
Then there are the multipicks, they can open most lever locks in 2-3 seconds.
Basically technology now means you can steal pretty much any car in under 5 minutes without breaking or damaging anything.
All these advices on unplugging or defusing the OBD: does this have any impact on the car e.g. resets when next service is due or any set up preferences in memory?
I'm not clued up on this stuff but was just wondering. I know it's better than risking having your car stolen but it is a bit of a pain to reset all systems every time you park the car.
I'm not clued up on this stuff but was just wondering. I know it's better than risking having your car stolen but it is a bit of a pain to reset all systems every time you park the car.
Mr-B said:
*Al* said:
Can you fit a dummy OBD port but also wire power to it so anything plugged in will get zapped?
That would be excellent! Shove 48 volts into his electronic gizmo and fry it Put them out of action for a while too, lol. Must be a possible market there for creating such a thing.Many moons ago (around 2001) my mate who was hugely into ICE had all his equipment nicked, he then decided to replace it all and make it impossible to steal, engineered lots of clever solutions and tbf everything was impossible to remove, so much so that when another set of thiefs tried to alleviate him of his ICE they also found it impossible and subsequently slashed every seat, jammed a screwdriver into the head unit and also slashed all four tyres.
maybe ive wrongly labelled those that you always see hooning around in fast german stuff or the ford rs/st brigade et al as t
ts but maybe the owners are sensible folk afterall its just that they too have had their car stolen and when I have happened to see them its because theres a thief at the wheel.............can it happen that often though?
God knows why the Fiesta is being stolen or a focus ST. is it for parts or to just rag around? They are not exactly the machines youd crate into a container and ship to some rich middle eastern country.
ts but maybe the owners are sensible folk afterall its just that they too have had their car stolen and when I have happened to see them its because theres a thief at the wheel.............can it happen that often though?God knows why the Fiesta is being stolen or a focus ST. is it for parts or to just rag around? They are not exactly the machines youd crate into a container and ship to some rich middle eastern country.
ToothbrushMan said:
maybe ive wrongly labelled those that you always see hooning around in fast german stuff or the ford rs/st brigade et al as tts but maybe the owners are sensible folk afterall its just that they too have had their car stolen and when I have happened to see them its because theres a thief at the wheel.............can it happen that often though?
God knows why the Fiesta is being stolen or a focus ST. is it for parts or to just rag around? They are not exactly the machines youd crate into a container and ship to some rich middle eastern country.
Whole car sold - couple of grand, used for a job and burnt out. Whole car stolen, chopped up and sold on as parts either in the UK or in Europe 10-20k. ts but maybe the owners are sensible folk afterall its just that they too have had their car stolen and when I have happened to see them its because theres a thief at the wheel.............can it happen that often though?God knows why the Fiesta is being stolen or a focus ST. is it for parts or to just rag around? They are not exactly the machines youd crate into a container and ship to some rich middle eastern country.
I quizzed the Police as my belief was the same as yours ToothbrushMan.
What gets me, in the 90s, I had Fast Fords - RS Turbos, Sapphire Cosworths and Granada Cosworths and never ever had any bother. Am I naive or has the world changed for the worse?
leef44 said:
All these advices on unplugging or defusing the OBD: does this have any impact on the car e.g. resets when next service is due or any set up preferences in memory?
I'm not clued up on this stuff but was just wondering. I know it's better than risking having your car stolen but it is a bit of a pain to reset all systems every time you park the car.
No, all it does is disconnect the power feed to the socket, like unplugging a USB cable from your PC, doesnt affect your computer working but whatever is connected to the other end wont work, keep the fuse handy and a note of which position it occupies on the fuse panel and you can simply put the fuse back in if the OBD port is required, a 30 sec job, once you have done it, it will be easy.I'm not clued up on this stuff but was just wondering. I know it's better than risking having your car stolen but it is a bit of a pain to reset all systems every time you park the car.
Trixxz said:
Whole car sold - couple of grand, used for a job and burnt out. Whole car stolen, chopped up and sold on as parts either in the UK or in Europe 10-20k.
I quizzed the Police as my belief was the same as yours ToothbrushMan.
What gets me, in the 90s, I had Fast Fords - RS Turbos, Sapphire Cosworths and Granada Cosworths and never ever had any bother. Am I naive or has the world changed for the worse?
Easier than ever, quick and zero deterrent from police. I quizzed the Police as my belief was the same as yours ToothbrushMan.
What gets me, in the 90s, I had Fast Fords - RS Turbos, Sapphire Cosworths and Granada Cosworths and never ever had any bother. Am I naive or has the world changed for the worse?
RemyMartin81D said:
Trixxz said:
Whole car sold - couple of grand, used for a job and burnt out. Whole car stolen, chopped up and sold on as parts either in the UK or in Europe 10-20k.
I quizzed the Police as my belief was the same as yours ToothbrushMan.
What gets me, in the 90s, I had Fast Fords - RS Turbos, Sapphire Cosworths and Granada Cosworths and never ever had any bother. Am I naive or has the world changed for the worse?
Easier than ever, quick and zero deterrent from police. I quizzed the Police as my belief was the same as yours ToothbrushMan.
What gets me, in the 90s, I had Fast Fords - RS Turbos, Sapphire Cosworths and Granada Cosworths and never ever had any bother. Am I naive or has the world changed for the worse?
Valgar said:
Herr Schnell said:
The facebook group "Stolen cars midlands" publishes figures for marques shared on their page every 3 months, it always makes depressing reading for ST / RS owners.
I would suggest a Disklok but there have been quite a few reports of ST thefts where they have sat in the car and used an angle grinder to remove them.
Faced with that level of determination I would be selling up too unfortunately.
Damn, who'd have thought Subarus would've fallen so far on the stolen listI would suggest a Disklok but there have been quite a few reports of ST thefts where they have sat in the car and used an angle grinder to remove them.
Faced with that level of determination I would be selling up too unfortunately.
Unsurprised Ford is the most stolen on that list, after all they are the most popular cars in the Country and it’ll be easier to stumble across a Ford than say, a Bentley
Ahbefive said:
Do peoplw not keep their nice cars out of sight and in garages anymore?
Sounds better than being too scared to have anything nice. Make sure it's insured, GAP insurance and lock it in the garage.
Garages are just storage for various junk these days. And also rarely large enough in new builds to take modern cars.Sounds better than being too scared to have anything nice. Make sure it's insured, GAP insurance and lock it in the garage.
Evanivitch said:
Ahbefive said:
Do peoplw not keep their nice cars out of sight and in garages anymore?
Sounds better than being too scared to have anything nice. Make sure it's insured, GAP insurance and lock it in the garage.
Garages are just storage for various junk these days. And also rarely large enough in new builds to take modern cars.Sounds better than being too scared to have anything nice. Make sure it's insured, GAP insurance and lock it in the garage.
I’m lucky enough to have a double that I keep the small hatchback track toy in, but it will be tight with all the tools if I added a second car.
J4CKO said:
leef44 said:
All these advices on unplugging or defusing the OBD: does this have any impact on the car e.g. resets when next service is due or any set up preferences in memory?
I'm not clued up on this stuff but was just wondering. I know it's better than risking having your car stolen but it is a bit of a pain to reset all systems every time you park the car.
No, all it does is disconnect the power feed to the socket, like unplugging a USB cable from your PC, doesnt affect your computer working but whatever is connected to the other end wont work, keep the fuse handy and a note of which position it occupies on the fuse panel and you can simply put the fuse back in if the OBD port is required, a 30 sec job, once you have done it, it will be easy.I'm not clued up on this stuff but was just wondering. I know it's better than risking having your car stolen but it is a bit of a pain to reset all systems every time you park the car.
Not helpful, I know. But it’s a shame you cannot get a dummy Ecu that fools the Theif into thinking he has succeeded but continuously codes a wrong code in his key.
Clivey said:
Surely the answer is for the police to set-up bait cars? Better still, turn a few into mobile gas chambers.
The infuriating thing is if you catch these scrotes in the act and do anything to them, it'll be you that suffers.
Life was less complicated before mobile phones got cameras.The infuriating thing is if you catch these scrotes in the act and do anything to them, it'll be you that suffers.
Hol said:
I can help thinking that they could spot a dummy and know the original is tucked up out of the way.
Not helpful, I know. But it’s a shame you cannot get a dummy Ecu that fools the Theif into thinking he has succeeded but continuously codes a wrong code in his key.
You get an old harness/OBD socket, put a plug on the end and only connect the power and ground.Not helpful, I know. But it’s a shame you cannot get a dummy Ecu that fools the Theif into thinking he has succeeded but continuously codes a wrong code in his key.
Fit the link cable in and cable tie it, so it's really difficult to remove (it's a pain when the car goes in for a service).
Any kit they use will light up, but won't communicate with the car.
Not fool proof, but certainly takes a long time to bypass.
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