Slid on ice and kerbed car. Strange hum

Slid on ice and kerbed car. Strange hum

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Paul1975

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16 posts

147 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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ah.. not an expert tbh.

it sounds like something rubbing but had a check and the wheel area is clear. not obstructions, and so on.

guess i'll find out on monday

Some Gump

12,687 posts

186 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Cold

15,236 posts

90 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Paul1975 said:
no change to sound when I steer car.
That'd lean away from wheel bearing, then.
Just replaced a front wheel bearing on my RRS that howled in a straight line without changing pitch or volume when steering the car in either direction. Unusual, sure, but not impossible.

Turbojuice

601 posts

89 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Did you get the tyre replaced too OP?

Paul1975

Original Poster:

16 posts

147 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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not yet.

I moved the wheel that got hit over to the rear. the noise is still coming from front of car.

I had checked the wheel for damage and it looked ok. alloys been kerbed a bit and quoted £50 to repair only.

ultimateporka

133 posts

146 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Had something similar where someone went into the side and damaged rear arch. Had a hum sound that grew louder in relation to speed. Wheel bearing had no roughness but turned it bearing was damaged. Replaced and all well

Turbojuice

601 posts

89 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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Paul1975 said:
not yet.

I moved the wheel that got hit over to the rear. the noise is still coming from front of car.

I had checked the wheel for damage and it looked ok. alloys been kerbed a bit and quoted £50 to repair only.
In that case i reckon it's the wheel bearing or/and hub. Check the driveshaft also to be safe.

Paul1975

Original Poster:

16 posts

147 months

Saturday 20th January 2018
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thinking I might just get the insurance company involved then.

kylos27

196 posts

98 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Jack the osf wheel up and start it up and select 4th and let the engine idle and see if it makes the noise

*Al*

3,830 posts

222 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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After the damage you describe, an alignment check would just be one part of the repair. Why even guess to what the noise might be?

ExVantagemech..

5,728 posts

215 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Check your tyres. All of them. Report back on what make they are as well....

I say this because (even though Im a mechanic of 32 years) I bought an Accord that had possibly the loudest wheel bearing noise ever - even got the trader to knock a load off because of it.
Thing was, there were 4 smooth quiet bearings on the car. When I swapped the tyres on that side front to rear the noise moved to the front...
Cheap stty Achilles tyres worn in an irregular pattern was the cause.

Run your hands around and across the tyre tread. It should be flat and level, not undulating or rippled. Spinning it looking for ovality is another one to do.

Paul1975

Original Poster:

16 posts

147 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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There was no noise from tyre before I had the bump. I've also moved the damaged wheel to the back of the car and the noise is still in the same place. This is why I am thinking I have damaged more than just the wishbone.

Would the fact they are not aligned cause this possibly? This is what the mechanic told me needed done next.

I am trying to figure out whats the possible problems are because I am not wanting to go and spend more money getting it fixed myself if it turns out its more serious than a wheel refurb and alignment. I'd be spending money only to then fork out on an excess too if I need to get insurance involved


Edited by Paul1975 on Sunday 21st January 09:47

Toed64

299 posts

120 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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There are some good points above.

Tracking being a little out is unlikely to cause a hum.

The tyre you have moved from the back to the front could easily be at cause.- I bought an old BMW and thought that it needed both rear wheel bearings, but they were fine - it was the tyres. Try switching the slightly damaged wheel to that front corner again, if the noise is still there, emitting from the same corner, it's probably not the tyre!

As above, wheel bearing noise often varies when the car turns one way or t'other, but not always. It is possible that the impact has damaged the hub (that carries the bearing). I have seen this one on an old fwd escort van that had very similar symptoms.

What's the car? How old is it? What brand tyres, and are they the same front and rear? Winter tyre?




TheInternet

4,712 posts

163 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Toed64 said:
As above, wheel bearing noise often varies when the car turns one way or t'other, but not always.
Indeed, the usual symptoms arrived at through normal wear may not be the same as those experienced following impact.

Paul1975

Original Poster:

16 posts

147 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Hello

Before the wheels were switched it hummed. After the wishbone was replaced and the wheels swapped, it still hummed from the same area.


TheJimi

24,951 posts

243 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Turbojuice said:
996TT02 said:
Equus said:
What sort of half-arsed monkey 'repaired' a damaged wishbone without doing the alignment as part of the job?
Maybe the very common sort who does not have alignment equipment and actually told the OP to get an alignment done.
Small garages can't afford some finishing line and a ruler then?
Some of you are absolutely spoiling for an argument where none exists.

Has it occurred to you that not everyone is confident with the string technique?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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TheJimi said:
Some of you are absolutely spoiling for an argument where none exists.

Has it occurred to you that not everyone is confident with the string technique?
I'm absolutely sure that there are incompetents in small garages all over the country.

Paul1975

Original Poster:

16 posts

147 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Appreciate all the help and advice from everyone.

I think its best just to bit the bullet and call the insurance and let them deal with it

SAS Tom

3,401 posts

174 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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Or just get it aligned...

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Sunday 21st January 2018
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SAS Tom said:
Or just get it aligned...
The "hum" is unlikely to be caused by an alignment problem with no other symptoms (e.g. pulling, tramlining, sluggish turn in etc). Far more likely is a chipped ball or race in the wheel bearing.