RE: The downsizing disaster discussion

[GroundEffect]

Max_Torque said:

LandRoverManiac said:

GroundEffect said:

No they won't. The next generation - i.e. the ones to comply with Euro 7 - will be heavily electrified petrols. With some BEVs. Expecting high-voltage PHEVs to take centre stage.

It's alright.

He pops in occasionally to threads and heralds the arrival of the EV to all of mankind - how it'll solve all of our problems, world peace, hunger, poverty, the usual stuff. They're also great for those early morning milk-runs.

=)

And soon after, some sad looser with a massive chip on their shoulder about how "the internal combustion engine is the best thing in the world and can never be replaced" comes along to spout total b*ll*ocks about why it won't happen!


Simple fact, electrification coming, and coming far faster than anyone realised. It no longer matters if you want it too, you would like it too, or whatever. It's happening, end of..........

I completely agree - some markets like Norway are already at ~20% market share for pure BEVs but the general markets like UK, France, Germany and even the US are many years off them even being 50% of the sales. I would expect that after 2030.

So "next gen" to me means a car launching around 2022-2023 and they will NOT be primarily BEV.

[PunterCam]

I mean yeah, the rs3 power train is in the wrong car - obviously it should be in audis smallest car, not something that's the size of yesteryears 5 series, but that's about it.

Next fiesta st has a 1.0l, 3 cylinder 200bhp engine. That'll be good, and should weigh under 1000kg if they put in the effort. That's interesting.

[RemyMartin81D]

Uncle John said:

Wow that is disappointing!!

I'd be upset at that.....

Its less than my abarth and then some lol.