RE: Renault Megane R.S: Driven

RE: Renault Megane R.S: Driven

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Konan

1,817 posts

145 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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DoubleD said:
I dont like automatics, i find them boring. But I wouldnt call the owner of an automatic lazy!
I used to have the gearbox of the proper enthusiast, and I must say I do miss the thrill of letting the clutch out, crawling in 1st then putting it back in again. Much more involving than rolling 10 meters on the brake. wink

DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Konan said:
DoubleD said:
I dont like automatics, i find them boring. But I wouldnt call the owner of an automatic lazy!
I used to have the gearbox of the proper enthusiast, and I must say I do miss the thrill of letting the clutch out, crawling in 1st then putting it back in again. Much more involving than rolling 10 meters on the brake. wink
Stop being so lazy....

loose cannon

6,029 posts

240 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Konan said:
I used to have the gearbox of the proper enthusiast, and I must say I do miss the thrill of letting the clutch out, crawling in 1st then putting it back in again. Much more involving than rolling 10 meters on the brake. wink
Perhaps you could try just going out for drives just for the drive rather than just commute you might enjoy it a bit more then

Konan

1,817 posts

145 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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loose cannon said:
Konan said:
I used to have the gearbox of the proper enthusiast, and I must say I do miss the thrill of letting the clutch out, crawling in 1st then putting it back in again. Much more involving than rolling 10 meters on the brake. wink
Perhaps you could try just going out for drives just for the drive rather than just commute you might enjoy it a bit more then
Good idea. Then I could sit in traffic in the morning thinking about how great it would be if I weren't sitting in traffic.

It'd also buy myself a nice set of matching driving gloves and shoes. And I could tell dave in accounts about what a free spirit I am with my manual gearbox.

loose cannon

6,029 posts

240 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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Konan said:
Good idea. Then I could sit in traffic in the morning thinking about how great it would be if I weren't sitting in traffic.

It'd also buy myself a nice set of matching driving gloves and shoes. And I could tell dave in accounts about what a free spirit I am with my manual gearbox.
Perhaps cars are not really your bag then, maybe spend your money on a different hobby,
If I couldn’t go for a couple of hours for a drive every week I simply wouldn’t bother wasting money on cars at all and would just buy a car purely for commuting if I needed one

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

233 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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I need a manual in my final cars - I enjoy HnT and having full control. And of course their is the greater interaction that it naturally provides.

RumbleOfThunder

3,546 posts

202 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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loose cannon said:
Konan said:
Good idea. Then I could sit in traffic in the morning thinking about how great it would be if I weren't sitting in traffic.

It'd also buy myself a nice set of matching driving gloves and shoes. And I could tell dave in accounts about what a free spirit I am with my manual gearbox.
Perhaps cars are not really your bag then, maybe spend your money on a different hobby,
If I couldn’t go for a couple of hours for a drive every week I simply wouldn’t bother wasting money on cars at all and would just buy a car purely for commuting if I needed one
Maybe don't be such a presumtive berk, telling people what hobbies to take. A hot hatch is designed to be an all rounder so will sit in traffic for a proportion of it's life, regardless of how often you want to hone apex's round the Evo triangle with your todge hanging out.

loose cannon

6,029 posts

240 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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He stated all he ever did was sit in traffic so how could he enjoy a manual car, I just mentioned that maybe cars as an item for enjoyment may not be for him, maybe you could learn how to be a bit more pleasant than calling people names clap

nickfrog

20,872 posts

216 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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loose cannon said:
Konan said:
I used to have the gearbox of the proper enthusiast, and I must say I do miss the thrill of letting the clutch out, crawling in 1st then putting it back in again. Much more involving than rolling 10 meters on the brake. wink
Perhaps you could try just going out for drives just for the drive rather than just commute you might enjoy it a bit more then
Plenty of people on track days using autos. They seem to have fun. And they seem to be going out just for the drive.

DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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nickfrog said:
loose cannon said:
Konan said:
I used to have the gearbox of the proper enthusiast, and I must say I do miss the thrill of letting the clutch out, crawling in 1st then putting it back in again. Much more involving than rolling 10 meters on the brake. wink
Perhaps you could try just going out for drives just for the drive rather than just commute you might enjoy it a bit more then
Plenty of people on track days using autos. They seem to have fun. And they seem to be going out just for the drive.
I dont think that was the point that he was trying to make.

RBH58

969 posts

134 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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One of the not so great things about the Clio’s EDC was that you didn’t get full control over the gearbox unless you put it in Race mode, which meant that not only did you have to go for the most brutal changes, but you also had to turn the stability control off. There was no way to stop the gearbox auto changing at the redline unless you selected Race. Don’t know if the Megane is the same.

nickfrog

20,872 posts

216 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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DoubleD said:
nickfrog said:
loose cannon said:
Konan said:
I used to have the gearbox of the proper enthusiast, and I must say I do miss the thrill of letting the clutch out, crawling in 1st then putting it back in again. Much more involving than rolling 10 meters on the brake. wink
Perhaps you could try just going out for drives just for the drive rather than just commute you might enjoy it a bit more then
Plenty of people on track days using autos. They seem to have fun. And they seem to be going out just for the drive.
I dont think that was the point that he was trying to make.
Glad he has a spokesperson !

DoubleD

22,154 posts

107 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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nickfrog said:
DoubleD said:
nickfrog said:
loose cannon said:
Konan said:
I used to have the gearbox of the proper enthusiast, and I must say I do miss the thrill of letting the clutch out, crawling in 1st then putting it back in again. Much more involving than rolling 10 meters on the brake. wink
Perhaps you could try just going out for drives just for the drive rather than just commute you might enjoy it a bit more then
Plenty of people on track days using autos. They seem to have fun. And they seem to be going out just for the drive.
I dont think that was the point that he was trying to make.
Glad he has a spokesperson !
Yawn

Konan

1,817 posts

145 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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I think I was just poking fun at the driving god manual zealots out there. I can't really remember now but it looks like I accrued some troll points wink


loose cannon said:
Konan said:
Good idea. Then I could sit in traffic in the morning thinking about how great it would be if I weren't sitting in traffic.

It'd also buy myself a nice set of matching driving gloves and shoes. And I could tell dave in accounts about what a free spirit I am with my manual gearbox.
Perhaps cars are not really your bag then, maybe spend your money on a different hobby,
If I couldn’t go for a couple of hours for a drive every week I simply wouldn’t bother wasting money on cars at all and would just buy a car purely for commuting if I needed one
I think you're possibly narrowing the hobby of 'cars' down to just the aspects you like.

D7Cup

123 posts

132 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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Well, another thread going into manual Vs auto debate, the predictability of this is simply outstanding.

Each to their own, why just don't people get it but instead they argue about which one is better?

culpz

4,881 posts

111 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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RBH58 said:
One of the not so great things about the Clio’s EDC was that you didn’t get full control over the gearbox unless you put it in Race mode, which meant that not only did you have to go for the most brutal changes, but you also had to turn the stability control off. There was no way to stop the gearbox auto changing at the redline unless you selected Race. Don’t know if the Megane is the same.
Yeah, i'll be honest, and i quite like the 200t, but i never got their decision to do that. You can have the fastest gear changes and full manual control but traction had to be off. Why you couldn't have a mode where you can adjust everything in an individual setting, i really don't know.

I would assume that Renault would have learned here, as they have by added a manual option for this new Megane. However, i also know how arrogant and stubborn they can be. I suppose we'll have to wait and see really or wait for a proper UK road test.

culpz

4,881 posts

111 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Quickmoose said:
Exactly nick frog exactly.
Quite why some react with such hysteria to a subjective observation over a highly visible design choice yet get ever so upset about how a gear is changed is quite the 'hysterical' mystery....
I mean you could argue that the vast majority of time spent interacting with your car is when it is stationary....so it's design qualities are extremely important to a lot of enthusiasts...and you could counter that with the fact a cars' only reason to be is to go places under its own power, so how it does that is also fundamental.
Why berate either discussion...
I do adore how you use my exact words taken from my previous replies. It really shows that you listen and that you care.

I just wish you'd quote me directly and not other people frown

framerateuk

2,730 posts

183 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Interesting this talk about sitting in traffic all the time.

That's how my time in my EDC Clio has been spent the past few months. I was a bit bored with the car, but I finally had a proper drive in it on Sunday and absolutely loved it.

Admittedly, you have to turn Race mode on, with TC fully off, but when you do the car is brilliant. It really eggs you on to go faster and the way it just sticks to the road is amazing. I had the car in manual most of the day and I didn't feel I wanted the manual version. When you're back down to normal speeds again and the car is back in auto, you do miss that 3rd pedal a bit though.

It's the first time in ages I've felt that rush while driving the Clio, and it's mostly my fault for sitting in morning traffic in it.

Quickmoose

4,482 posts

122 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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culpz said:
Quickmoose said:
Exactly nick frog exactly.
Quite why some react with such hysteria to a subjective observation over a highly visible design choice yet get ever so upset about how a gear is changed is quite the 'hysterical' mystery....
I mean you could argue that the vast majority of time spent interacting with your car is when it is stationary....so it's design qualities are extremely important to a lot of enthusiasts...and you could counter that with the fact a cars' only reason to be is to go places under its own power, so how it does that is also fundamental.
Why berate either discussion...
I do adore how you use my exact words taken from my previous replies. It really shows that you listen and that you care.

I just wish you'd quote me directly and not other people frown
Wishes DO come true !

Track_Cit

537 posts

221 months

Friday 8th June 2018
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Simon Owen said:
Itsallicanafford said:
Ohlins equipped cup chassis mk3 cars ride beautifully in my experience, presumably this will not be an option on mk4? Or not yet until trophy models come out
Superb but not sure I would use the term "ride beautifully".

By most normal standards still a very firm set up, even when run in B Road setting which we use all the time (road use) most people who don't know what it is comment how firm it is !!

More supple than stock cup spec though.
I would actually say they do ride beautifully too! The Ohlins are epic, I have them on my Trophy, and even on track on their firmest setting they aren't ridiculously hard. If you adjust them completely anti clockwise you'd be surprised how soft and compliant the car becomes. I would agree that it's not like driving a 1L fiesta but as performance cars go they're sensational. I drove a new focus RS and the ride felt shocking (excuse the pun) in comparison. Really primitive coming directly from the Trophy. When the salesman pipped up ''oh I bet the Renault feels rubbish now'' I replied, ''quite the contrary!''

Is there any more news or sneak peaks on the Trophy version of the mk4 yet?