RE: Subaru WRX STI Final Edition: Driven
Discussion
GranCab said:
" for the lasting affect "
F.F.S. proof readers where are you ?
You ought to read AutocarF.F.S. proof readers where are you ?
"I travelled to the meeting point by Civic, marvelling aga the job Honda has done on this car while wondering once more why it had taken so many stabs at it before rediscovering the brilliance of the original Type Rs."
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/honda-...
"Aga the job"
eh?
Does anyone on Autocar or PH actually do any sub editing anymore?
It does feel like the end of an era. My entries into the Impreza club - P1 running 401 BHP, a completely standard P1 (sold for £7500 with 79k on the clock 5 years ago!) and my current squeeze - mint STI widetrack DCCD model. Probably selling that soon now due to a lack of job. Seems nobody needs a writer these days
Edited by Speed Badger on Saturday 3rd February 21:06
tonyb1968 said:
PK0001 said:
rossub said:
LasseV said:
rossub said:
The elephant in the room is that 2.5 engine that they’ve persisted with since 2007, despite all the head gasket and ringland failures. That’s what killed it for the enthusiasts - it’s just that the unsuspecting, non anorak public still bought them over the years unawares, but in ever decreasing numbers.
I have a ‘93 and an ‘06 Impreza (both imports) but I wouldn’t touch a UK one post ‘07 with a barge pole I’m afraid.
What's wrong in 2.5 engine? Genuine question.I have a ‘93 and an ‘06 Impreza (both imports) but I wouldn’t touch a UK one post ‘07 with a barge pole I’m afraid.
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/8289...
Not an issue on latest STi
andymac said:
tonyb1968 said:
PK0001 said:
rossub said:
LasseV said:
rossub said:
The elephant in the room is that 2.5 engine that they’ve persisted with since 2007, despite all the head gasket and ringland failures. That’s what killed it for the enthusiasts - it’s just that the unsuspecting, non anorak public still bought them over the years unawares, but in ever decreasing numbers.
I have a ‘93 and an ‘06 Impreza (both imports) but I wouldn’t touch a UK one post ‘07 with a barge pole I’m afraid.
What's wrong in 2.5 engine? Genuine question.I have a ‘93 and an ‘06 Impreza (both imports) but I wouldn’t touch a UK one post ‘07 with a barge pole I’m afraid.
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/8289...
Not an issue on latest STi
And the issues with the Focus RS
Speed Badger said:
It does feel like the end of an era. My entries into the Impreza club - P1 running 401 BHP, a completely standard P1 (sold for £7500 with 79k on the clock 5 years ago!) and my current squeeze - mint STI widetrack DCCD model. Probably selling that soon now due to a lack of job. Seems nobody needs a writer these days
As soon as I can I'll be buying a 2000 Turbo GF8, my uncle had a Type R V5 reworked by Roger Clark, had a £10k engine built for it, ended up planted on a country wall. For the £8k you can get them for, I just don't think you can go faster outside of a superbike. Edited by Speed Badger on Saturday 3rd February 21:06
Owned 2 in the past and currently own another. I love the Impreza, well until the hatchback was released. Not a fan of those or the newer saloons. Real shame it is finishing but all good things come to an end. Like has been mentioned I guess Subaru didn't really move with the times. I am a little disappointed that the 'Final Edition' was not a bit more special but I guess the market dictated that. There might be another Impreza in the future as seen some photos of a prototype, which looks quite good.
I think Jsf's posts on this thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... put the reliability issue to bed.
I moved from an ‘slightly tweaked’ 03 wrx wagon to a golf R. The golf was very fast but too refined....no individual engine note/trick exhaust gurgles, not engaging to drive....it was fast but not rewarding....I longed for a scooby again.
It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.
In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!😁
It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.
In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!😁
- grabs the keys for his Forester STi and heads out to the local country lanes*
crispyshark said:
I moved from an ‘slightly tweaked’ 03 wrx wagon to a golf R. The golf was very fast but too refined....no individual engine note/trick exhaust gurgles, not engaging to drive....it was fast but not rewarding....I longed for a scooby again.
It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.
In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!??
Aah, you bought one?It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.
In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!??
- grabs the keys for his Forester STi and heads out to the local country lanes*
Pic pls?
Gandahar said:
GranCab said:
" for the lasting affect "
F.F.S. proof readers where are you ?
You ought to read AutocarF.F.S. proof readers where are you ?
"I travelled to the meeting point by Civic, marvelling aga the job Honda has done on this car while wondering once more why it had taken so many stabs at it before rediscovering the brilliance of the original Type Rs."
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/honda-...
"Aga the job"
eh?
Does anyone on Autocar or PH actually do any sub editing anymore?
Much obliged as always!
Matt
andymac said:
Check out Autocars review much more rounded review than the pistonheads stab
For a more objective PH review of the STI, see Dan's original from a few years back:https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general/2014-suba...
This was probably a little kinder than usual because it was more of an Impreza retrospective than a fully fledged road test. We're well aware of the car's failings, and that it's far from the best car in its class at this money. We just wanted to celebrate what it is Subaru brought to the market, and also what it can still offer. This didn't seem the time to whinge about plastics and image and CO2, valid concerns though they are.
Matt
I do love the looks of these. In fact, i don't think there's any of the WRX STI iterations that i've disliked. Even the hatch-back version looked good in my eyes. Last year, i spent a few weeks away in Oban, Scotland and i spotted a few of these out and about.
I do get the comparison to the Golf R but i reckon these will be a completely different drive. Much more raw and engaging and the fuel consumption is clearly closer than expected. I just wish they used a different engine other than the troublesome 2.5 unit.
I do get the comparison to the Golf R but i reckon these will be a completely different drive. Much more raw and engaging and the fuel consumption is clearly closer than expected. I just wish they used a different engine other than the troublesome 2.5 unit.
bonesX said:
crispyshark said:
I moved from an ‘slightly tweaked’ 03 wrx wagon to a golf R. The golf was very fast but too refined....no individual engine note/trick exhaust gurgles, not engaging to drive....it was fast but not rewarding....I longed for a scooby again.
It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.
In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!??
Aah, you bought one?It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.
In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!??
- grabs the keys for his Forester STi and heads out to the local country lanes*
Pic pls?
Waiting for the right setting for a nice pic....it’s a lovely car though and came through a trusted route with the correct work done to it; which is important and hence my interest in yours.
They had a good engine which they could've easily had hot hatch beating power out of. 300bhp was a highly impressive number in 2003, not so much in 2018. In 2003, what could you really buy at that price that came close to that kind of power? Hot hatches were running 170-230bhp and 0-60 of high 6's. These days, you can do 0-60 in mid 4's in a comfortable well spec'd car. The WRX STI is obsolete because Subaru let it turn obsolete.
Probably biased because I bought one, but the interior seriously isn't nearly as bad as everyone seems to harp on about (I suspect, without ever having been to a dealer and sat in one) - I went in expecting to think the interior was rubbish but its at exactly the same level as anything else I tried out, and in actual fact I preferred it to some (e.g. RS), or if not had them level pegged (R), just don't look up too often (why would you) because the interior light isn't made out of the best looking plastic ( ). Had a turbo 2000 and regularly drove a blob eye, and yes their interiors were quite bad compared to other cars of the time, but the standard has definitely improved.
For a fun car, who cares about co2 or economy, it doesn't change anything that I can see right now, tax isn't an issue any more and I'm getting 26mpg right now still running it - by most accounts many of the other options for hot cars get the same which makes sense when you realise that there isn't a magic recipe for getting power from nothing - if you want speed, you have to burn fuel to get it!
Anyway, for my money it has better looks and soul than any of the competition and much less of them about so makes me happy.
For a fun car, who cares about co2 or economy, it doesn't change anything that I can see right now, tax isn't an issue any more and I'm getting 26mpg right now still running it - by most accounts many of the other options for hot cars get the same which makes sense when you realise that there isn't a magic recipe for getting power from nothing - if you want speed, you have to burn fuel to get it!
Anyway, for my money it has better looks and soul than any of the competition and much less of them about so makes me happy.
As a lifelong Subaru fan this is a sad day.
They stopped importing them here years ago due to the criminal €2350 per annum tax!
I'll stick with my GF8. Still makes a show of "faster" cars on a twisty damp (or dry) road and gives me heaps of enjoyment. Combined with Pilot Sport 4s it corners at speeds that would normally be far beyond the limits of my skill.
Plus it makes the proper scooby noise.
I'll have to get myself a EJ07 engined Widetrack or a V6 Type R at some stage i think...
They stopped importing them here years ago due to the criminal €2350 per annum tax!
I'll stick with my GF8. Still makes a show of "faster" cars on a twisty damp (or dry) road and gives me heaps of enjoyment. Combined with Pilot Sport 4s it corners at speeds that would normally be far beyond the limits of my skill.
Plus it makes the proper scooby noise.
I'll have to get myself a EJ07 engined Widetrack or a V6 Type R at some stage i think...
KillianB4 said:
As a lifelong Subaru fan this is a sad day.
They stopped importing them here years ago due to the criminal €2350 per annum tax!
I'll stick with my GF8. Still makes a show of "faster" cars on a twisty damp (or dry) road and gives me heaps of enjoyment. Combined with Pilot Sport 4s it corners at speeds that would normally be far beyond the limits of my skill.
Plus it makes the proper scooby noise.
I'll have to get myself a EJ07 engined Widetrack or a V6 Type R at some stage i think...
It'd be this all day long for meThey stopped importing them here years ago due to the criminal €2350 per annum tax!
I'll stick with my GF8. Still makes a show of "faster" cars on a twisty damp (or dry) road and gives me heaps of enjoyment. Combined with Pilot Sport 4s it corners at speeds that would normally be far beyond the limits of my skill.
Plus it makes the proper scooby noise.
I'll have to get myself a EJ07 engined Widetrack or a V6 Type R at some stage i think...
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