RE: Subaru WRX STI Final Edition: Driven

RE: Subaru WRX STI Final Edition: Driven

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Gandahar

9,600 posts

128 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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GranCab said:
" for the lasting affect "

F.F.S. proof readers where are you ?
You ought to read Autocar

"I travelled to the meeting point by Civic, marvelling aga the job Honda has done on this car while wondering once more why it had taken so many stabs at it before rediscovering the brilliance of the original Type Rs."

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/honda-...

"Aga the job"

eh?

Does anyone on Autocar or PH actually do any sub editing anymore?


Speed Badger

2,689 posts

117 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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It does feel like the end of an era. My entries into the Impreza club - P1 running 401 BHP, a completely standard P1 (sold for £7500 with 79k on the clock 5 years ago!) and my current squeeze - mint STI widetrack DCCD model. Probably selling that soon now due to a lack of job. Seems nobody needs a writer these days frown



Edited by Speed Badger on Saturday 3rd February 21:06

andymac

112 posts

283 months

Saturday 3rd February 2018
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tonyb1968 said:
PK0001 said:
rossub said:
LasseV said:
rossub said:
The elephant in the room is that 2.5 engine that they’ve persisted with since 2007, despite all the head gasket and ringland failures. That’s what killed it for the enthusiasts - it’s just that the unsuspecting, non anorak public still bought them over the years unawares, but in ever decreasing numbers.

I have a ‘93 and an ‘06 Impreza (both imports) but I wouldn’t touch a UK one post ‘07 with a barge pole I’m afraid.
What's wrong in 2.5 engine? Genuine question.
Have a read of this and be afraid...

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/8289...
Only an issue for 08-10 cars

Not an issue on latest STi
Really? As its the same engine it has the same problems, you can change the map all they want but the inherent problems are still there (pistons, oil pickup, cracking between the cylinders) and they still fail, its a totally crap engine that should have been sorted yearsago.
Maybe a small issue look at North America market they are selling 2500 wrx and wrxsti models a month ! No big issues

PK0001

347 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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andymac said:
tonyb1968 said:
PK0001 said:
rossub said:
LasseV said:
rossub said:
The elephant in the room is that 2.5 engine that they’ve persisted with since 2007, despite all the head gasket and ringland failures. That’s what killed it for the enthusiasts - it’s just that the unsuspecting, non anorak public still bought them over the years unawares, but in ever decreasing numbers.

I have a ‘93 and an ‘06 Impreza (both imports) but I wouldn’t touch a UK one post ‘07 with a barge pole I’m afraid.
What's wrong in 2.5 engine? Genuine question.
Have a read of this and be afraid...

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-general-1/8289...
Only an issue for 08-10 cars

Not an issue on latest STi
Really? As its the same engine it has the same problems, you can change the map all they want but the inherent problems are still there (pistons, oil pickup, cracking between the cylinders) and they still fail, its a totally crap engine that should have been sorted yearsago.
Maybe a small issue look at North America market they are selling 2500 wrx and wrxsti models a month ! No big issues
Don't forget the timing engine issues with the VW engine used in the R and the early turbo issues.

And the issues with the Focus RS

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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Speed Badger said:
It does feel like the end of an era. My entries into the Impreza club - P1 running 401 BHP, a completely standard P1 (sold for £7500 with 79k on the clock 5 years ago!) and my current squeeze - mint STI widetrack DCCD model. Probably selling that soon now due to a lack of job. Seems nobody needs a writer these days frown



Edited by Speed Badger on Saturday 3rd February 21:06
As soon as I can I'll be buying a 2000 Turbo GF8, my uncle had a Type R V5 reworked by Roger Clark, had a £10k engine built for it, ended up planted on a country wall. For the £8k you can get them for, I just don't think you can go faster outside of a superbike.

wolfie28

696 posts

144 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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Owned 2 in the past and currently own another. I love the Impreza, well until the hatchback was released. Not a fan of those or the newer saloons. Real shame it is finishing but all good things come to an end. Like has been mentioned I guess Subaru didn't really move with the times. I am a little disappointed that the 'Final Edition' was not a bit more special but I guess the market dictated that. There might be another Impreza in the future as seen some photos of a prototype, which looks quite good.

rovermorris999

5,201 posts

189 months

Sunday 4th February 2018
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I think Jsf's posts on this thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&... put the reliability issue to bed.

crispyshark

1,262 posts

145 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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I moved from an ‘slightly tweaked’ 03 wrx wagon to a golf R. The golf was very fast but too refined....no individual engine note/trick exhaust gurgles, not engaging to drive....it was fast but not rewarding....I longed for a scooby again.

It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.

In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!😁

  • grabs the keys for his Forester STi and heads out to the local country lanes*

bonesX

902 posts

180 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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crispyshark said:
I moved from an ‘slightly tweaked’ 03 wrx wagon to a golf R. The golf was very fast but too refined....no individual engine note/trick exhaust gurgles, not engaging to drive....it was fast but not rewarding....I longed for a scooby again.

It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.

In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!??

  • grabs the keys for his Forester STi and heads out to the local country lanes*
Aah, you bought one?

Pic pls?

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Monday 5th February 2018
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Gandahar said:
GranCab said:
" for the lasting affect "

F.F.S. proof readers where are you ?
You ought to read Autocar

"I travelled to the meeting point by Civic, marvelling aga the job Honda has done on this car while wondering once more why it had taken so many stabs at it before rediscovering the brilliance of the original Type Rs."

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/honda-...

"Aga the job"

eh?

Does anyone on Autocar or PH actually do any sub editing anymore?
Apologies all, got it now. And no is the answer to your question, because we don't have a sub-ed on PH! We do the best we can but mistakes will get through on occasion. Probably more regularly than they should. Fortunately it's not in print and we have eagle-eyed readers to pick up on mistakes... One word wrong out of a thousand or so isn't too bad, is it? wink

Much obliged as always!


Matt

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Monday 5th February 2018
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andymac said:
Check out Autocars review much more rounded review than the pistonheads stab
For a more objective PH review of the STI, see Dan's original from a few years back:

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general/2014-suba...

This was probably a little kinder than usual because it was more of an Impreza retrospective than a fully fledged road test. We're well aware of the car's failings, and that it's far from the best car in its class at this money. We just wanted to celebrate what it is Subaru brought to the market, and also what it can still offer. This didn't seem the time to whinge about plastics and image and CO2, valid concerns though they are.


Matt

culpz

4,882 posts

112 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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I do love the looks of these. In fact, i don't think there's any of the WRX STI iterations that i've disliked. Even the hatch-back version looked good in my eyes. Last year, i spent a few weeks away in Oban, Scotland and i spotted a few of these out and about.

I do get the comparison to the Golf R but i reckon these will be a completely different drive. Much more raw and engaging and the fuel consumption is clearly closer than expected. I just wish they used a different engine other than the troublesome 2.5 unit.

crispyshark

1,262 posts

145 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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bonesX said:
crispyshark said:
I moved from an ‘slightly tweaked’ 03 wrx wagon to a golf R. The golf was very fast but too refined....no individual engine note/trick exhaust gurgles, not engaging to drive....it was fast but not rewarding....I longed for a scooby again.

It’s sad to see the end of an era but Subaru pretty much self sabotaged by not importing certain models and the 2.5 engine issues.

In the mean time, those of us who are custodians of these cards will continue to meet, appreciate the cars and embarrass other, more modern models that we really have no right to!??

  • grabs the keys for his Forester STi and heads out to the local country lanes*
Aah, you bought one?

Pic pls?
I did indeed, Sir!

Waiting for the right setting for a nice pic....it’s a lovely car though and came through a trusted route with the correct work done to it; which is important and hence my interest in yours.

shortar53

548 posts

273 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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BeillyNoy said:
(I even bought the perfect Subaru number plate for it: SL18ARU).
Please tell me that plate is on a golf, just to annoy people.

JB!

5,254 posts

180 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Subaru UK killed the fast Impreza by not bringing over the FA20DIT powered WRX.

2.0, direct injection, 270bhp, awesome Subaru 4x4 system.

rovermorris999

5,201 posts

189 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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JB! said:
Subaru UK killed the fast Impreza by not bringing over the FA20DIT powered WRX.

2.0, direct injection, 270bhp, awesome Subaru 4x4 system.
Fleet emissions are the problem with that idea. That's why the Forester XT with that engine is being discontinued this year.

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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They had a good engine which they could've easily had hot hatch beating power out of. 300bhp was a highly impressive number in 2003, not so much in 2018. In 2003, what could you really buy at that price that came close to that kind of power? Hot hatches were running 170-230bhp and 0-60 of high 6's. These days, you can do 0-60 in mid 4's in a comfortable well spec'd car. The WRX STI is obsolete because Subaru let it turn obsolete.

FiddleSticks

19 posts

131 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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Probably biased because I bought one, but the interior seriously isn't nearly as bad as everyone seems to harp on about (I suspect, without ever having been to a dealer and sat in one) - I went in expecting to think the interior was rubbish but its at exactly the same level as anything else I tried out, and in actual fact I preferred it to some (e.g. RS), or if not had them level pegged (R), just don't look up too often (why would you) because the interior light isn't made out of the best looking plastic ( redface ). Had a turbo 2000 and regularly drove a blob eye, and yes their interiors were quite bad compared to other cars of the time, but the standard has definitely improved.

For a fun car, who cares about co2 or economy, it doesn't change anything that I can see right now, tax isn't an issue any more and I'm getting 26mpg right now still running it - by most accounts many of the other options for hot cars get the same which makes sense when you realise that there isn't a magic recipe for getting power from nothing - if you want speed, you have to burn fuel to get it!

Anyway, for my money it has better looks and soul than any of the competition and much less of them about so makes me happy.

KillianB4

150 posts

111 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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As a lifelong Subaru fan this is a sad day.

They stopped importing them here years ago due to the criminal €2350 per annum tax!

I'll stick with my GF8. Still makes a show of "faster" cars on a twisty damp (or dry) road and gives me heaps of enjoyment. Combined with Pilot Sport 4s it corners at speeds that would normally be far beyond the limits of my skill.

Plus it makes the proper scooby noise.

I'll have to get myself a EJ07 engined Widetrack or a V6 Type R at some stage i think...

aaron_2000

5,407 posts

83 months

Monday 5th February 2018
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KillianB4 said:
As a lifelong Subaru fan this is a sad day.

They stopped importing them here years ago due to the criminal €2350 per annum tax!

I'll stick with my GF8. Still makes a show of "faster" cars on a twisty damp (or dry) road and gives me heaps of enjoyment. Combined with Pilot Sport 4s it corners at speeds that would normally be far beyond the limits of my skill.

Plus it makes the proper scooby noise.

I'll have to get myself a EJ07 engined Widetrack or a V6 Type R at some stage i think...
It'd be this all day long for me

https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...