RE: Jaguar Classic announces D-Type continuation
Discussion
TooMany2cvs said:
Can't be road registered.
Won't be eligible for historic racing.
It's an investment vehicle. No more, no less.
Spending a tiny fraction on a good rep that you can actually use makes far more sense.
Half of the cars racing at the top end of historic races are replicas - C, D and LWE Jaguars, GT40s, Ferrari 250 SWB and GTO, Aston DB4 GTZ and Project cars etc. Most of what gets raced these days isn't what it appears to be, even at Goodwood, which 'doesn't allow replicas'. There's no reason why a new car built by the original manufacturer will be any less eligible to race than a new car built by someone else. At least one of the 6 new LWE-types has been out racing already.Won't be eligible for historic racing.
It's an investment vehicle. No more, no less.
Spending a tiny fraction on a good rep that you can actually use makes far more sense.
The E type continuations are eligible for historic racing. Hope these are too as the race fields at meetings such as the Silverstone Classic are shrinking by collectors purchasing genuine historic racers, leaving them in the garage for a few years and then putting them back to auction for a tax free profit.
Buying a continuation D type for up to 1/15th of the cost for a 1950's original will hopefully get more of these cars back out on the track
Buying a continuation D type for up to 1/15th of the cost for a 1950's original will hopefully get more of these cars back out on the track
kambites said:
Obviously it couldn't get through modern type approval, but surely it can still be sold for road use anywhere the D-type was originally approved? As car as I know type approval for a model doesn't expire?
TA changes typically apply to pre-existing models a year after new approvals. See the M3/GPF thing, for one.Anyway, the big problem is that it's been out of production for a while, so putting it back into production again would count as new...
TooMany2cvs said:
Can't be road registered.
Won't be eligible for historic racing.
It's an investment vehicle. No more, no less.
Spending a tiny fraction on a good rep that you can actually use makes far more sense.
Completely agree on this, sure it'll be a replica but hey you can drive it on the roads.Won't be eligible for historic racing.
It's an investment vehicle. No more, no less.
Spending a tiny fraction on a good rep that you can actually use makes far more sense.
So as I'm ignorant of such things, What stops Jaguar going through National Small Series Type Approval (NSSTA) for these?
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/national-sm...
Or even individuals putting them through an IVA? Surely hundreds of kit cars and replicas go through the process every year and these seem to have all the requirements for being roadworthy or could have period looking additions made to ensure they do?
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/national-sm...
Or even individuals putting them through an IVA? Surely hundreds of kit cars and replicas go through the process every year and these seem to have all the requirements for being roadworthy or could have period looking additions made to ensure they do?
cookie1600 said:
So as I'm ignorant of such things, What stops Jaguar going through National Small Series Type Approval (NSSTA) for these?
They want to make a continuation D as per the originals, you would have to change so much, for it to pass, it would be something else.cookie1600 said:
Or even individuals putting them through an IVA?
BIVA isn't applicable as its not been made by a bloke in his shed.Fire99 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Can't be road registered.
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Is that right? If so then these cars really are utterly pointless. Don't get me wrong, I love these old classics but there are far better track cars and the only place where these classics would make sense to me, would be on some decent roads on a sunny day...
cookie1600 said:
So as I'm ignorant of such things, What stops Jaguar going through National Small Series Type Approval (NSSTA) for these?
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/national-sm...
Or even individuals putting them through an IVA? Surely hundreds of kit cars and replicas go through the process every year and these seem to have all the requirements for being roadworthy or could have period looking additions made to ensure they do?
Kits aren't made of all-new bits. They go by the age of the mechanicals for emissions.http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/national-sm...
Or even individuals putting them through an IVA? Surely hundreds of kit cars and replicas go through the process every year and these seem to have all the requirements for being roadworthy or could have period looking additions made to ensure they do?
PaulJC84 said:
Lotus with some original style Elans would be cool.
Again, all off the shelf, just supply an ID...These are wonderful engineering objects, and I'm really glad that manufacturers are keen and able to undertake these builds.
Having watched the TV programme about the E-Type Lightweight, however, I think they were going too far to have all of the tailored luggage and other such unnecessary poncy baggage (pun intended),
Whilst I appreciate that the world seems to be full of people who have huge wealth that they are keen to be bled of on such frippery, it doesn't make the pomposity sit any more comfortably.
If these cars were a bit more humble and true to their origins, they'd be far more attractive a prospect ......... race cars do not need inch thick paint and lacquer applied, so they can look nice on the lawn at Pebble Beach!!!
Having watched the TV programme about the E-Type Lightweight, however, I think they were going too far to have all of the tailored luggage and other such unnecessary poncy baggage (pun intended),
Whilst I appreciate that the world seems to be full of people who have huge wealth that they are keen to be bled of on such frippery, it doesn't make the pomposity sit any more comfortably.
If these cars were a bit more humble and true to their origins, they'd be far more attractive a prospect ......... race cars do not need inch thick paint and lacquer applied, so they can look nice on the lawn at Pebble Beach!!!
I wish Pur Sang (the guys who build the >95% accurate Bugatti and Alfa Romeo 20/30's racing cars) would build something like this. I think their general rule is it's about 10% of the current originals price. A million+ £ might be pointless as you could just buy the Jaguar made one, but somewhere in the £250-500,000 range would be damn tempting. I'd honestly rather have this than a 458 Speciale. 
Here's a clip of some of Pur Sangs work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIxlql0Ebnc
Here's a clip of some of Pur Sangs work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIxlql0Ebnc
mat205125 said:
Having watched the TV programme about the E-Type Lightweight, however, I think they were going too far to have all of the tailored luggage and other such unnecessary poncy baggage (pun intended)
So were those road registered and compliant? Clearly no reason for luggage if you can't actually go anywhere in one. I did read that the Knobbly Lister Jags had been made complaint by putting in a handbrake, some rudimentary other changes and getting rid of the wheel spinners:
https://uk.motor1.com/news/144609/road-legal-liste...
I've also seen that the Aston Martin DB4-GT continuations aren't road legal/certifiable and that the nine XKSS continuations are all unusable on UK roads. Is there nowhere in the world you can't get them road legal and then just fly it back here and use it occasionally on foreign plates?
It's like buying a £1.5million painting then leaving it in your garage in it's packing crate.
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