RE: Jaguar Classic announces D-Type continuation
Discussion
MrC986 said:
galaxie500 said:
Looking forward to a new Allegro & Austin Princess too....
Stop it, I almost choked on my up of coffee as I browsed the thread! Were you thinking of a Russet Brown limited edition with black vinyl roof by any chance 
cookie1600 said:
So as I'm ignorant of such things, What stops Jaguar going through National Small Series Type Approval (NSSTA) for these?
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/national-sm...
Or even individuals putting them through an IVA? Surely hundreds of kit cars and replicas go through the process every year and these seem to have all the requirements for being roadworthy or could have period looking additions made to ensure they do?
Because Jaguar are not a small manufacturer. The numbers of cars they produce mean they have to apply new vehicle regs. It's different for a company like Lynx because the combined total of all the new cars they build every year is less than a handful. Also a proper recreation D-type would never pass the IVA and retain it's "originality". Seatbelts for starters...http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca//vehicletype/national-sm...
Or even individuals putting them through an IVA? Surely hundreds of kit cars and replicas go through the process every year and these seem to have all the requirements for being roadworthy or could have period looking additions made to ensure they do?
PhantomPH said:
dinkel said:
A 300SL recreation would be most welcome.
THIS!Absolutely factory faithful nut and bolt restos that will be as good as brand new. Re manufactured parts to factory spec too.
https://www.mercedes-benz.com/en/mercedes-benz/cla...
But as my son, who lives in Germany, and visits all the big classic shows,says : 'The world is never going to run out of 300SLs ....'
Oh, and by the way, isn't it ironic that there seems to be a rush to buy 'continuity' XKSSs and D-Types today, when Jaguar had to struggle very hard to sell what they had already built in the mid-1950s ?
[As someone who lived in Coventry at this time, I can tell you that in many ways there seemed to be a sigh of relief that several XKSSs were consumed in the fire which swept through the Jaguar factory in early 1957 ....].
Oh, and by the way, isn't it ironic that there seems to be a rush to buy 'continuity' XKSSs and D-Types today, when Jaguar had to struggle very hard to sell what they had already built in the mid-1950s ?
[As someone who lived in Coventry at this time, I can tell you that in many ways there seemed to be a sigh of relief that several XKSSs were consumed in the fire which swept through the Jaguar factory in early 1957 ....].
Still remember and I think I still have the magazine original D type for £50k in the early 80,s.
They had one at racing green in ash vale around 2008 but was not on the original chassis they spent many years hunting down the original chassis found it in Australia got the car sent back to UK and swapped the chassis over so they had now one fully sorted d type you can imagine the improvement in value
They had one at racing green in ash vale around 2008 but was not on the original chassis they spent many years hunting down the original chassis found it in Australia got the car sent back to UK and swapped the chassis over so they had now one fully sorted d type you can imagine the improvement in value
aeropilot said:
MrC986 said:
galaxie500 said:
Looking forward to a new Allegro & Austin Princess too....
Stop it, I almost choked on my up of coffee as I browsed the thread! Were you thinking of a Russet Brown limited edition with black vinyl roof by any chance - Allegro
- Beetle
- 2(?) Renault 5s
- Rover P6
- Lotus Esprit
- MkV Cortina
- and a white Toyota or something?
Turbobanana said:
Wow, that's quite a street scene:
- Allegro
- Beetle
- 2(?) Renault 5s
- Rover P6
- Lotus Esprit
- MkV Cortina
- and a white Toyota or something?
It’s weird - like a iphone photo taken today but with 70s cars!! - Allegro
- Beetle
- 2(?) Renault 5s
- Rover P6
- Lotus Esprit
- MkV Cortina
- and a white Toyota or something?
D-type is heritage mining for PR - does no wrong to remind punters buying XEs of the illustrious heritage (or introduce them to it) and likewise for the markets JLR is growing in where the brand’s heritage may not be as well known. So this is ‘show and tell’.
Turbobanana said:
aeropilot said:
MrC986 said:
galaxie500 said:
Looking forward to a new Allegro & Austin Princess too....
Stop it, I almost choked on my up of coffee as I browsed the thread! Were you thinking of a Russet Brown limited edition with black vinyl roof by any chance - Allegro
- Beetle
- 2(?) Renault 5s
- Rover P6
- Lotus Esprit
- MkV Cortina
- and a white Toyota or something?
wonder if any have survived .Possibly only the lotus
sidesauce said:
As Jag and Aston supply the demand for these period creations, surely Ferrari, Porsche and Daimler must be readying something similar from their back catalogues...?
Very interesting times.
I think I read somewhere that Ferrari said they wouldn't do it, as their brand ethic is very much about pushing forwards with modern technology. Considering their most recent hybrid hypercar had no plug-in or electric-only capability, and remained naturally-aspirated, I'm not sure how true that is, but hey ho. Put me down for a 250GT Lusso when they finally come round to the idea. Porsche are so tech-driven and SUV-led, I'm not sure whether they're likely to do it either, as tempting as a new batch of 60s SWB 911s or 2.7RSs would be...Very interesting times.
One wonders whether any of the 50s/60s luxobarges could be eligible for a revival? A new LS-engined Rover P5 would be jolly nice, or an Eagle 4.7 MkX...
In a world where everything is so mass produced the hand-built car will always be in demand, add in the Brand, History and limited numbers and you have a licence to print money.
The trouble is some of us are old enough to remember the originals first time round and they were not really that good. For instance the E type was troublesome, used lots of oil, overheated and rusted badly, quality of build was quite poor in the bits you did not easily see. The suspension was knackered after 25k miles too. It looked pretty on the breakdown truck though when you burnt a piston!
The trouble is some of us are old enough to remember the originals first time round and they were not really that good. For instance the E type was troublesome, used lots of oil, overheated and rusted badly, quality of build was quite poor in the bits you did not easily see. The suspension was knackered after 25k miles too. It looked pretty on the breakdown truck though when you burnt a piston!
BOR said:
Phwoaaaaaar basically.
Great that they can still crank out more of these, presumably using the original tooling etc.
Will they end up being more or less valuable than the original "originals" ?
The build quantities of these cars do sound rather low to me. If you are going to do it, surely a few more would make more sense commercially?
I know that the toffs like limited numbers buut surely 50x 1,000,000 GBP is better than 25x1,500,000 GBP ?
The value thing could be interesting, I’m sure Goodwood stated that they wouldn’t allow the lightweight E Types that Jaguar have just done compete at the revival as they aren’t historic cars. If a few more events take that outlook it stops the cars from building a history that adds to the value.Great that they can still crank out more of these, presumably using the original tooling etc.
Will they end up being more or less valuable than the original "originals" ?
The build quantities of these cars do sound rather low to me. If you are going to do it, surely a few more would make more sense commercially?
I know that the toffs like limited numbers buut surely 50x 1,000,000 GBP is better than 25x1,500,000 GBP ?
aeropilot said:
- Beetle
- Orange Fiat 127 Sport
- Mk V Cortina
- White things is a Mk1 Accord
Discussed at length here:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Edited by Dapster on Wednesday 7th February 18:30
Building new versions of iconic cars could take away the mystique and value (not monetary) of the old. Not sure about this but it’s all about profit and building what will sell. I do think the defender thing is a bit cynical though. A new XJS would appeal though as would a twin plenum, last of the line SD1 Vitesse. Interesting times as one of the previous posters said.....
All bull about registering them. You clearly know nothing Jon Snow
So how did AML register the prototype DB4GT then? Via the IVA.
They just won't road register them themselves as that would mean they would have a huge legal liability. As a toy, they get out of that legal minefield.
They can and they will be registered:
Quote from the article.
"While the prototype wears number plates and has indeed been road registered, the others are being sold - officially at least - as circuit-only"
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/aston-m...
So how did AML register the prototype DB4GT then? Via the IVA.
They just won't road register them themselves as that would mean they would have a huge legal liability. As a toy, they get out of that legal minefield.
They can and they will be registered:
Quote from the article.
"While the prototype wears number plates and has indeed been road registered, the others are being sold - officially at least - as circuit-only"
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-driven/aston-m...
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